There's no question, I screwed up – period.
In a fit of sarcasm, and dark humor I've offended nokiya2000, and made this forum an unwelcoming place for them… For this I am ashamed.
I appreciate the overwhelming response to keep this community one that is welcoming to others, and strongly frowns upon those who would make others feel unwelcome. I have never stated, nor thought, that I am better than nokiya2000, or anyone else for that matter.
This is truly a dark moment for me, and the outcome is certainly not something I am proud of, but let's get a few things straight:
First, I noticed the revised OP before reply #7, and contacted nokiya2000 immediately (
Mark is welcomed to confirm or deny validity). I apologized for my behavior, and tried to convey that I never meant for them to feel unwelcome, or that they should be sorry for what they posted, and requested that they please come back to TheSwamp. Before I could publicly apologize, the lot of you began your bash-fest.
Second, now that the metaphorical dust has settled, I take issue with some of your comments:
@Se7en –
WTF?! This is one of the sadest threads I've seen. Let's make a sport out of making people look like a total idiot.
Most of the inane statements people spew are gibberish to me but i at least *try* to answer. I may not give the most diplomatic answers but i try to answer with what i *think* you need or at least try to offer some form of generic help.
What dahell?! *sigh*
Especially given our little run in last year, you disappoint me, John (
aka The Pot). I nearly quit all CAD forums as a direct result of the way you treated me then. Were it not for thick skin, personal determination to grow as a developer, and some unsolicited encouragement from Alan, I wouldn't be here.
~The Kettle@BobWahr & James Cannon (
aka JCTER) –
Fortunately the OP is gone for good because hell, it's pretty obvious that english isn't their first language. Way better to be a dick and drive them away than ask for clarification.
A big huge +1 to these two posts.
What the hell is wrong with you people? This kind of crap doesn't and shouldn't ever happen on the swamp. LOL HE DON'T SPEK AR LANGWIDG TOO GUD< LOL LETS TEASE HIM.
Pricks. Renderman. Feel free to not speak when you feel the urge to post like that again. PLEASE.
Edit-to-Add: Renderman... just curious, but... how's your Korean? Can you read hanja or Hangul pretty well?
Were either of you to actually go through the attachment in the OP, or to actually read through the posts prior to your own, you'd find that the attached help file is what was written in another language. The OP spoke English very well, and at no time did I make fun of OP’s mastery of the language.
Dually noted. In the future, feel free to check your facts before making baseless accusations. PLEASE.
Edit-to-Add: My Korean is nonexistent... I would have to Google
Hanja and
Hangul to even know what they are... Other than English, I do speak two foreign languages conversationally (
I'm rusty though), and am learning a third foreign language in preparation of my overseas trip next year.
As for the comment on clarification
Does someone can figure it out about how to use it with Autocad?
... You mean like the thread you got this information from (that you didn't provide us), where someone *may* have specified what AutoCAD version(s) the DLL will work with, etc.?
I don't speak the language the help file is written in but it looks like the .DLL is just a library for LISP routines. Where's the lisp routine you're using?
… Clarification was both suggested (
by me) as this was a carryover thread from AUGI, and requested (
by MexicanCustard). Again you'd have seen this had you actually read the thread prior to posting your incendiary comments.
For my part, however, there is no way for me (
that I know of) to determine what's required of a random DLL that was posted here. Should I have posted a constructive comment instead, yes, admittedly.
@Dgorsman & James Cannon (
aka JCTER) -
I'm somewhere inbetween the two sides, since I followed the originating thread over at AUGI. I don't think its completely a language issue but rather a code comprehension issue. OP asked for help, somebody built or modified something which mostly but maybe not completely adressed the problem. OP didn't appear to understand how to evaluate what was provided over there (despite some reasonably clear instructions), then comes here and blindly asks others to make it do what its supposed to do (without really explaining *what* that is). Thats why I'm not completely on the side of the angels here - if you are going to ask for help with programming, be able to evaluate a solution thats been provided and accept that not all solutions are complete and fit-for-purpose.
I 100% agree with that, but not one attempt was made by the spectators to ask for clarification of guide the user into finding the problem or identifying the issues. /shrug
Dgorsman, I appreciate that you stepped in to add some much needed clarity. Not that you did so in my defense or anything, but a much wiser man than I taught me the value of “preferring clarity to agreement”
(<-paraphrased).
James, four of the five posts that followed mine either offered an alternate suggestion, asked for clarification, or offered a way to translate the help file (
see replies 2, 3, 5, and 6).
Am I sarcastic, yes – opinionated, most of the time – funny, clearly not as often as I'd like – but malicious, no.
Contrary to my poor behavior in this thread, I just asked Tannar (
StykFace)
to ease up on a new member before he scared them away. Perhaps I was incredibly naïve to have made the assumptions I did prior to my post. Given the outcome, specifically that the OP chose to leave, and not the fodder than ensued, I regret my actions terribly.
I too am new to TheSwamp and most members here do not know me despite my participation in AUGI and CADTutor. After the dog-pile here, many may not ever care to. This is an unfortunate result of my own doing, regardless of the multitude of misinterpretations, and baseless accusations, offered above.
Even after leaving military service (US Army AIRBORNE, Jan 2000-Jun 2009), I have a strong appreciation for volunteerism. I take great pride in helping others, to the best of my ability, and this is a very dark mark on a long track record of doing good. I made a terrible mistake... one that I cannot take back. I am deeply troubled that my actions here resulted in a member choosing to leave… this has never happened to me before, and I pray that it will never happen again. Not even if
The Pot is the member leaving.
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Now... were any of you were planning to offer a suggestion as to how to get the attachment in the OP to function properly, or were you just here to get in your
kicks?
Note - The attachment from OP has been re-attached in this post, in the event that it is removed from the OP later.Perhaps this DLL issue being resolved will help someone else that finds this thread in the future... Just a thought.
