Topic: Change stationing of alignment and profile 0+000 to 00+00

[wbonnet]

I have been asked to change the stationing of my drawing from the default 0+000 to a 00+00 format.  I am using a metric drawing, have tried changing my label styles on the alignment to no avail.  I need all of my stations in the drawing to read this way.  Is there any quick way to do this?  Again, just one of those things AutoCAD loves to make you change when the default should clearly be set to the station format that everyone uses (00+00)!  The simplest tasks conceptually can be the hardest to accomplish using this software.

[Jeff_M]

Almost all Metric civil drawings I've seen use the 0+000 stationing format, where Imperial drawings use the  0+00 format. So Autodesk just created the templates based on the norm, as far as I can tell.

You can change the default for new styles under the drawing's Ambient settings. To change an existing drawing's labels you will have to edit each style used individually. If you have many drawings/styles to edit, this could probably be programmed to automate it.

[wbonnet]

I figured that it was a metric thing, yet I have read documentation that states you should still use the format, 00+00 (hundreds+tens), even for metric.  Changing the individual label styles does not seem to work when I change and apply the 0+00 format to it.  Thanks for the help, I am hoping that I can just tell the boss that 0+000 is the format used when using a metric system, and all will be good.

[mjfarrell]

This is controlled at the Ambient Settings level and Autodesk provided no such format option (10+00).
However one could possibly achieve the desired effect with an expression and some fancy label style trickery.

[sinc]

I figured that it was a metric thing, yet I have read documentation that states you should still use the format, 00+00 (hundreds+tens), even for metric.

I don't see a lot of metric plans, but all the ones I've seen use the 0+000 format.

[sinc]

This is controlled at the Ambient Settings level and Autodesk provided no such format option (10+00).
However one could possibly achieve the desired effect with an expression and some fancy label style trickery.

What'choo talkin' 'bout, Willis?

In the other thread, you were saying this sort of thing is NOT controlled by the Ambient Settings.  Of course, it's actually the same as the rest, where the Settings tree controls the settings of newly-created Styles, but existing Styles have this setting set inside the Text Components inside the Styles, and stuff inside Text Componenets in existing Styles can't be changed by editing the Ambient Settings.

The settings in the Settings Tree (e.g., Ambient Settings, or Settings -> Alignment -> Edit Feature Settings) will affect things like Tooltips, but not any existing Styles used to label Alignments or Profiles.

And there's no 10+00 format because it's called "1+00".  You just use that format to get stations like 10+00.   ...Or are you refering to forcing a leading zero, for stations like 05+00?

[Keith™]

Once upon a time, I wrote a stationing utility for a national company ... does that count?

[mjfarrell]

In this case nothng controls the stationing format in the manner the user desires.
What I was saying in the other thread is that, the Ambient Settings do not have full control of ones lables.
Yes it can be used to preset certain values, however at the individual label level the user can still modify those presets.

And I did not indicate any change would happen within the users existing label sets.   

[mjfarrell]

Once upon a time, I wrote a stationing utility for a national company ... does that count?

does it work with C3D alignment objects?

[Keith™]

Once upon a time, I wrote a stationing utility for a national company ... does that count?

does it work with C3D alignment objects?

No, it was all attributed blocks, but I am sure it could be modified to work with C3D .. it was written long before C3D was released .. in fact, it was written in the AC14 days ...

[mjfarrell]

Once upon a time, I wrote a stationing utility for a national company ... does that count?

does it work with C3D alignment objects?

No, it was all attributed blocks, but I am sure it could be modified to work with C3D .. it was written long before C3D was released .. in fact, it was written in the AC14 days ...

ah, yes...the good o'le days.... back when there was still the faintest hint of ink and Mylar lingering in the drafting area.   

[Keith™]

ugh .. I just got a faint whiff of developer fluid and suddenly I feel sick

[sinc]

In this case nothng controls the stationing format in the manner the user desires.

I'm not following you...

The OP's request seems simple enough.  It's quite easy to change the stationing from a 0+000 format to a 0+00 format, the whole question is whether or not that should really be done, since metric plans typically use the 0+000 format.  Unless I'm misunderstanding...?

[mjfarrell]

yes...it appears they want to move the station delimiter...one to the right...from my reading

Interestingly enough one had this ability in Land Desktop, and I've seen it cause quite a bit of confusion when changed accidentally.

[sinc]

Interestingly enough one had this ability in Land Desktop, and I've seen it cause quite a bit of confusion when changed accidentally.

And we have this ability in C3D.  I'm not exactly sure what you're saying...