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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #60 on: June 15, 2011, 05:29:34 PM »
`wine' does in no way make "it" cross platform...in any of the known universes.  

The V.L.I.D.E. "has an editor" not "is an editor" - Visual Lisp Integrated Development Environment.

This conversation is splitting in two (we are talking two different languages/conversations here).

"syntax highlighting", "parenthesis matching", and "indentation" is the extent of the feature list for the editor in the VLIDE. A real text editor is so much more but the amount of `features' isn't the point; usefulness is. If you feel that `syntax highlighting', `paren match', and `indenting' along with the IDE-debugging features are useful enough for how you write your lisp programs then so be it, but please don't fool yourself into thinking that is what or how you use a text editor. An IDE is something entirely different than a text editor. You need to choose the tool best suited for how *you* work (if an IDE is good enough for you; good. I'm glad for you...I'm sorry, but I cant make myself care any more than that about how you *want* to work--I can only make suggestions if i feel they would be of any use).

To give you an example of what I'm talking about, I don't consider the debugging feature(s) as important as "navigation"; I spend far too much time reviewing, looking at, studding code. That is why Vim has a `normal' mode. As a `nav' example, I can jump back and forth to and from functions in this or that, or other files or directories without having to actually do any "opening or navigating files or folders" (I can jump around to and from functions like I can navigate the internet--clicking links so to speak--Vim can just know where to find a function and open the file for me to that location when issue a command). The things I do are worlds apart from what [you] do in the VLIDE because i work or do things in a different way.

Now, to address the second conversation:
If you ask any Vim user what kind of `features' Vim has they will laugh at you. However, I can try to start the `feature discussion' by saying: Vim has approximately 3609 features, at the time of writing this, which one would you like to talk about or compare?


EDIt: did a spell check.
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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #61 on: June 15, 2011, 05:34:36 PM »
EDIt: did a spell check.

ok who is this, really
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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #62 on: June 15, 2011, 05:38:15 PM »
EDIt: did a spell check.

ok who is this, really

It's definitely not N9ne.

Se7en 8ight him.

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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #63 on: June 15, 2011, 05:40:47 PM »
EDIt: did a spell check.

ok who is this, really

It's definitely not N9ne.

Se7en 8ight him.

And 6ix is too scared.
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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #64 on: June 15, 2011, 05:42:35 PM »
EDIt: did a spell check.
ok who is this, really

It's definitely not N9ne.
Se7en 8ight him.

And 6ix is too scared.

I can play Tetris in Vim. Now you guys need to ask yourselves: "if he has a text editor that can do that, what features does his editor have that could do harm to my PC if he so wishes or if i overstep?".




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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #65 on: June 15, 2011, 05:45:05 PM »
I can play Tetris in Vim.

and we all know what a boon to productivity that is
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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #66 on: June 15, 2011, 05:49:42 PM »
EDIt: did a spell check.
ok who is this, really

It's definitely not N9ne.
Se7en 8ight him.

And 6ix is too scared.

I can play Tetris in Vim. Now you guys need to ask yourselves: "if he has a text editor that can do that, what features does his editor have that could do harm to my PC if he so wishes or if i overstep?".




:D

Does it help you build choppers?

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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #67 on: June 15, 2011, 05:52:13 PM »
Lessons from Grandpa; Lesson 1*:

My grandfather walked into a tire store and said to the salesman:
"I want four new tires."
SG: "Sure, lets go outside and see what's what."
...
SG: "sir, you dont need four new tires."
Grandpa: *opens trunk and pulls out a screwdriver* *pops a tire*
SG: "What dahell are you doing!"
G: "I said `WANT' not `need'."


I can play Tetris in Vim.
and we all know what a boon to productivity that is

I said "can" not "do".



* lessons not actually in any order.
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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #68 on: June 15, 2011, 05:53:35 PM »
Does it help you build choppers?

*sigh* Oh, I hope you catch on fire.
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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #69 on: June 15, 2011, 05:58:01 PM »
Does it help you build choppers?

*sigh* Oh, I hope you catch on fire.

*applauds*  You win the 5th grade spelling Bee!

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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #70 on: June 15, 2011, 06:01:04 PM »
 :-D

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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #71 on: June 15, 2011, 06:25:31 PM »
:-D
"When you find yourself in a hole stop digging". - Will Rogers

All do respect to Mr Rogers; very eloquent BTW but IMO Poe ("The Raven") was more poignant--and relivant-.
...bunch of dumb birds.

*SQUAaaak* "Nevermore"
*croooaak* "VLIDE"

At any rate, thanx for the check. Appreciated.
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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #72 on: June 15, 2011, 06:53:30 PM »
Thanks for the explanation though.  I really don't understand the VLIDE terribly much, nor was I very aware of the purpose/scope of VIM.

Mainly because I'm a coding neanderthal stamping his hand on the cave wall, making pictures with his feces.

Oh, how far I've come.

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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #73 on: June 15, 2011, 07:05:29 PM »
Mainly because I'm a coding neanderthal stamping his hand on the cave wall, making pictures with his feces.

Oh, how far I've come.
Moved up to a poop brush.
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Re: Lynn Allen talking about AutoLISP...
« Reply #74 on: June 15, 2011, 07:10:40 PM »
Mainly because I'm a coding neanderthal stamping his hand on the cave wall, making pictures with his feces.

Oh, how far I've come.
Moved up to a poop brush.
Oh no.  I was describing my CURRENT skill level.  You don't -want- to know what I moved to that level from.