Topic: AppDev VS LearnDevNow

[Jeff H]

For anyone Interested

AppDev Link       LearnDevNow Link

It is the exact same except you do not get the pdf version of the books and the labs solutions since those are in the books.

I really miss having the books, but I paid $69.00(LearnDevNow) for all of the libraries and paid like $300(AppDev) for just the Visual Basic Windows development and that was talking them down.

You can call and talk them down for both

The links are to AppDev C# Windows library at $499.00 and the

LearnDevNow is all the Libraries C#, VB, Sharepoint, Sql Server and any new videos released during your year subscription at $99.00

When I was doing research before I bought it AppDev and LearnDevNow address was same except the Suite number. It could have changed but it seems it just a sister company and when go through the setup all the fine print notes are owned by AppDev.

I have had no problems with them but will probably get an automatic charge when the year ends up so will have to watch out for that but I have been pleased enough to keep it. If you worried about that you can order another card with different number and once you receive it then cancel the first one.

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I paid an extra $10 or $15 for all the Solutions in the LearnDevNow Suite Worth IT!!!!!

[MP]

Thanks for posting these links Jeff.

I had concerns that LearnDevNow was legit, i.e. I was thinking they were a rip off of AppDev (have used them before; good but expensive), considering the price difference.

Well it appears they are partners.

From the LearnDevNow Terms of Service ...

LEARNNOW, LLC AND APPDEV PRODUCTS, LLC (AppDev) END-USER LICENSE AGREEMENT (EULA)

THIS IS A LEGAL AGREEMENT.

READ CAREFULLY BEFORE INSTALLING SOFTWARE.

NOTE: This product was created, owned and copyrighted by AppDev Products, LLC and licensed to LearnNow, LLC for resale. Therefore, this EULA is between you, LearnNow, LLC and AppDev Products, LLC.  Refer to the following AppDev Software License Agreement and Disclaimer of Warranty and Limited Warranty prior to beginning the installation process. By installing, copying, or otherwise using the Software, you agree to be bound by the terms of this EULA ...

While not definitive, it does suggest LearnDevNow is legit, though it's odd the license agreement is between AppDev and LearnNow, LearnDevNow.

I think I'll fire an email to AppDev to be sure.

fwiw ... Michael.

[Jeff H]

No problem Boss

AppDev Address
10250 Valley View Road Suite 120, Eden Prairie, MN 55344

LearnDevNow Address
10250 Valley View Road Suite 121, Eden Prairie, MN 55344

[MP]

Thanks Jeff, I found the same in one of my earlier searches.

[MP]

Hello Michael,

Thank you for your email.  LearnNow, LLC (owner of http://www.learndevnow.com) is a separate, Internet-only, company that has an exclusive reselling arrangement with AppDev. LearnNow, LLC only licenses our streaming media and sample files. They do not have access to our written courseware, hands on labs, the AppDev Edge site, AppDev support, etc…  Those are the reasons for the difference in price; however they are definitely an official reseller and are legit.

AppDev

[Jeff H]

LearnDevNow just added this

Online Courseware: Add this option to your library to receive our comprehensive collection of corresponding eBooks. You’ll get immediate access to thousands of pages of online courseware perfect for supplemental learning and reference material.

 Include for $49.99/user*

Hands-on Lab Exercises: Add this option to your library to receive eBooks containing step-by-step hands-on lab exercises that correspond to your video library. These lab exercises are an ideal way to reinforce key concepts and practice your new skills.

 Include for $49.99/user*

*Include both Online Courseware + Hands-on Lab Exercises for only $69.99/user. That's a savings of $29.99/user!

Which is great so you do not have to search to videos to try to find info.


Here is all the videos I have access to

.NET Remoting Using Visual Basic 2005
.NET Remoting Using Visual C# 2005
Administering Windows XP Pro
ADO.NET Using Visual Basic 2005
ADO.NET Using Visual C# 2005
Advanced.NET Framework 2.0 Using C# 2005: Volume 1
Advanced.NET Framework 2.0 Using C# 2005: Volume 2
Advanced.NET Framework 2.0 Using C# 2005: Volume 3
Advanced.NET Framework 2.0 Using VB 2005: Volume 1
Advanced.NET Framework 2.0 Using VB 2005: Volume 2
Advanced.NET Framework 2.0 Using VB 2005: Volume 3
ASP.NET AJAX Using Visual Basic 2005
ASP.NET AJAX Using Visual C# 2005
ASP.NET Using Visual Basic .NET 2003
ASP.NET Using Visual Basic 2005
ASP.NET Using Visual Basic 2008: Volume 1
ASP.NET Using Visual Basic 2008: Volume 2
ASP.NET Using Visual Basic 2010
ASP.NET Using Visual C# .NET 2003
ASP.NET Using Visual C# 2005
ASP.NET Using Visual C# 2008: Volume 1
ASP.NET Using Visual C# 2008: Volume 2
ASP.NET Using Visual C# 2010
ASP.NET Visual Basic 2005: Addl Topics
ASP.NET Visual C# 2005: Addl Topics
Building Web Services Using Visual Basic 2005
Building Web Services Using Visual C# 2005
Designing Win2K3 AD and Net Infra
Dev Apps C# 2008: Enterprise Mobile and Security
Dev Apps VB 2008: Enterprise, Mobile, and Security
Developing Applications Using C# 2008: Vol 1
Developing Applications Using C# 2008: Vol 2
Developing Applications Using C# 2008: What's New
Developing Applications Using VB 2008: Vol 1
Developing Applications Using VB 2008: Vol 2
Developing Applications Using VB 2008: What's New
Exploring ASP.NET 2.0 Atlas
Exploring ASP.NET 2.0 Using VB 2005
Exploring ASP.NET 2.0 Using VC# 2005
Exploring BizTalk 2006
Exploring Microsoft SQL Server 2005
Exploring Microsoft SQL Server 2008
Exploring SharePoint 2007
Exploring SharePoint 2010
Exploring Silverlight 2
Exploring Visual Basic 2005
Exploring Visual C# 2005
Exploring Visual Studio 2008 Using Visual Basic
Exploring Visual Studio 2008 Using Visual C#
Exploring Visual Studio 2010 ALM Tools
Exploring Visual Studio 2010 Using Visual Basic
Exploring Visual Studio 2010 Using Visual C#
Implementing ISA 2004
Implementing Security in Win2K3
Introduction to Microsoft .NET 2003
Learning to Program Using Visual Basic 2008
Learning to Program Using Visual C# 2008
LINQ Using Visual Basic 2008
LINQ Using Visual C# 2008
Maintaining Win2K3 Active Directory
Maintaining Win2K3 Network Infra
Managing Exchange 2003
Managing Win2K3 Network Infra
Managing Windows 2003 Environment
Microsoft AJAX 4 Using Visual Basic 2010: Server
Microsoft AJAX 4 Using Visual C# 2010: Server
Microsoft SharePoint 2010 for Business Users
Microsoft SharePoint 2010 for Developers
Microsoft SharePoint 2010: Business Processes
Microsoft SharePoint 2010: Web Content Management
Microsoft SQL Server 2000
Microsoft SQL Server 2005
Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Analysis Services
Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Reporting Services
Microsoft SQL Server 2008 for Developers
Microsoft SQL Server 2008 R2: Whats New
Microsoft SQL Server Analysis Services 2008
Microsoft SQL Server Integration Services 2008
Microsoft SQL Server Reporting Services 2008
MVC 2 Applications Using Visual Basic 2010
MVC 2 Applications Using Visual C# 2010
SharePoint 2007 for Administrators
SharePoint 2007 for Business Users
SharePoint 2007 for Developers
SharePoint 2007: Business Processes
SharePoint 2007: Portals and Search
SharePoint 2007: Web Content Management
Silverlight 4 using Visual Basic 2010
Silverlight 4 using Visual C# 2010
SQL Server 2005 Additional Topics
SQL Server 2005 Integration Services
SQL Server 2008: Installing Querying Security
Visual Basic .NET 2003
Visual Basic 2005: Dev Apps Additional Topics
Visual Basic 2005: Developing Apps
Visual Basic 2005: Learning to Program
Visual C# .NET 2003: Developing Apps
Visual C# .NET 2003: Learning to Program
Visual C# 2005: Dev Apps Additional Topics
Visual C# 2005: Developing Apps
Visual C# 2005: Learning to Program
Visual Studio 2005 Tools for Office
Visual Studio Tools for Office Second Edition
WCF Using Visual Basic 2008
WCF Using Visual C# 2008
Windows Presentation Foundation using VB 2010
Windows Presentation Foundation using VC# 2010
Windows Workflow Foundation Using VB 2005
Windows Workflow Foundation Using Visual C# 2005

[jgr]

Please do not advertise free of those sites.

I think these books/videos and others are a hoax : ej: mastering vb2005, mastering vb2008, mastering ...and the content is always the same. To learn there are other sources, and also to improve:Try/error, open source projects... I learned vb6 without anyone's help and now I'm learning vb.net without anyone's help and i think i've achieved a good level (although not speak English)

Examples:
GUI  and others
http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=34954.0

Working at bit level (not byte  evel)
Read last  post:
http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=36419.0

[Kerry]

jgr
These sites are NOT a hoax, Ive been using them for several years.

added:
and I don't see the word 'mastering' in the list Jeff posted.

[jgr]

jgr
These sites are NOT a hoax, Ive been using them for several years.

added:
and I don't see the word 'mastering' in the list Jeff posted.

Sorry, sorry,  sorry... In the future try to have more with translations

Hoax. Sorry I have not translated well. (Useless? -en; Inutiles? -es)

Mastering:  I use this word as an example of the titles of some books, only that.

[dgorsman]

Some do ok, or even better, with self-learning.  Most still require the more traditional approach to instruction, expecially those who only do a little programming as peripheral to their actual job rather than full time.  There's a reason its the traditional way 

[jgr]

Some do ok, or even better, with self-learning.  Most still require the more traditional approach to instruction, expecially those who only do a little programming as peripheral to their actual job rather than full time.  There's a reason its the traditional way 

Hi
You're right. I have been been selfish in my thinking (but i am not programmer)
(Sorry, I hope this is understood. I do not speak English ... etc)

[Jeff H]

I think the key is to understand how you learn and how you learn best. Personally I watch the videos or let them play while I am doing something else then when I need something from them I look it up int the ebooks

[dgorsman]

Some do ok, or even better, with self-learning.  Most still require the more traditional approach to instruction, expecially those who only do a little programming as peripheral to their actual job rather than full time.  There's a reason its the traditional way 

Hi
You're right. I have been been selfish in my thinking (but i am not programmer)
(Sorry, I hope this is understood. I do not speak English ... etc)

Better english than I can see on a number of forums.  I wouldn't have noticed if you didn't mention it.

[jgr]

Better english than I can see on a number of forums.  I wouldn't have noticed if you didn't mention it.

:ugly:
Are you kidding me?

I think the key is to understand how you learn and how you learn best

I agree.

Sorry. I have a (big) problem: talks first and then think

[Jeff H]

I am about to give up on LearnDev.

The last 3 or 4 times I have gone there I can not watch the videos because something is messed up with there feed.

It will play 2 seconds then freeze for 2 minutes then another 2 secs etc.................