Topic: Signs of an Untrained CAD Person

[alanjt]

Thinking OSnaps are useless.

[Lin-Z]

I don't know if this falls under "untrained" or just "stubborn" but the 2 guys I work with who used AutoCAD since it was first released still trail on over to Pan and Zoom while in a command instead of using the scroll mouse. It drives me insane every time I see them do it 

[alanjt]

I don't know if this falls under "untrained" or just "stubborn" but the 2 guys I work with who used AutoCAD since it was first released still trail on over to Pan and Zoom while in a command instead of using the scroll mouse. It drives me insane every time I see them do it 

Well....at least they're not escaping the command to type "P". Hell, I changed P (in my PGP) from pan to pline in version '02 or whenever you could pan with the middle button.

[mjfarrell]

I don't know if this falls under "untrained" or just "stubborn" but the 2 guys I work with who used AutoCAD since it was first released still trail on over to Pan and Zoom while in a command instead of using the scroll mouse. It drives me insane every time I see them do it 

Well....at least they're not escaping the command to type "P". Hell, I changed P (in my PGP) from pan to pline in version '02 or whenever you could pan with the middle button.

particularly in Civil 3D...with the Right+Click ZOOM TO function for just about everything one would ever need to be able or want to look at

[GDF]

[All of the above...everything mentioned so far]

[mjfarrell]

they are not yet members of TheSwamp.org

[hermanm]

Everything drawn in model space, including border & title block (multiple sheets).
Created multiple paperspace layouts, one for each sheet.
Nothing in paperspace except the viewports, all at oddball scale factors

But the real kicker:

NOTHING in model space is drawn 1 to 1. All is scaled up by some factor.
Various scale factors for assorted details.
Multiple dimension styles all have a length scale factor to compensate for scaled up details.
All dimensions have the same visual appearance, but measure at different length scales.
DIMSCALE = 1 for all dimension styles.

My head hurts just thinking about it.

[Dinosaur]

Everything drawn in model space, including border & title block (multiple sheets).
Created multiple paperspace layouts, one for each sheet.
Nothing in paperspace except the viewports, all at oddball scale factors

But the real kicker:

NOTHING in model space is drawn 1 to 1. All is scaled up by some factor.
Various scale factors for assorted details.
Multiple dimension styles all have a length scale factor to compensate for scaled up details.
All dimensions have the same visual appearance, but measure at different length scales.
DIMSCALE = 1 for all dimension styles.

My head hurts just thinking about it.

So you know "LNB" & "KNB" too ... but I thought they discontinued ANY use of viewports after I left.

[Daniel J. Ellis]

Created multiple paperspace layouts, one for each sheet.
My head hurts just thinking about it.

I thought that was kinda the point of paperspace?

Or has my sense of humour not booted up properly this morning?

dJE

[craigr]

BUT, what you guys are not mentioning is that it MAY just work fine for their company.

I'm afraid that MANY of our drawing practices would not meet up with the typical CAD society. But, they work great for us.

What we do usually isn't really 'drafting'. Very seldom do we draw anything to scale. When I do have to, it's usually adding a door or wall to a floor plan from an outside firm. A lot of our work could really be done in a graphics package such as Corel, it would just take MUCH more time.

Most of our CAD users are Engineers that don't know much CAD and stumble thru to try meet our standards, and some still argue when they don't.

Up to a few years ago, EVERYTHING was still drawn in MSpace, with 'no reason to change it'. If I threw fields at them, they would REALLY bark.

But, all of this works fine for us.

craigr

[Dashmonkey]

leaders that are exploded because the user is still drawing them using the old dim: leader command (or even worse, manually drew in the arrow head and the individual line segments)

It's funny because this is the way our company still does it. *Sigh*

[sinc]

It's more a sign of an "Untrained Civil Engineer" than an "Untrained CAD Person", but...

Getting a Civil Site Plan done in feet and inches.  Just got another one of these things today...