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mohnston

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AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« on: August 31, 2010, 02:40:04 PM »
Yep, it's coming.
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/index?siteID=123112&id=15421056

Don't know why I posted this here.
Sure would be nice to know what they mean by "create applications".
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Re: AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2010, 02:56:56 PM »
I replied to same question at the fourms
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If you go to au.autodesk (autodesk university)

 

Here is the class description for Hammer for the 2010 Session.

 

Class Description

It's time. Time to port your AutoCAD® ObjectARX® and LISP code to a new operating system—the Apple Mac and AutoCAD SledgeHammer. This unconference class will allow you to get fully involved in the topic and discuss your specific issues with our Mac experts. If you think the Apple Mac is the way forward, then this class is for you.


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Re: AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2010, 03:32:12 PM »
< sigh >

Draftek

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Re: AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2010, 03:52:57 PM »
< sigh > ++

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Re: AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2010, 04:16:59 PM »
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Translation:
There's no .NET, the Lisp may be broken, else it won't need porting, and coming up soon: a fascinating employment opportunity for ARXdevs.

Since nothing of that is of concern to a building services grunt: Bring it on! May it reduce the number of woefully incompatible DWG exports from Mac-based design software.

Oh noes, there goes my task to streamline those monstrosities. There's a wipeout for every other object; here we have hardcoded formats in each and every MText; spiderwebs made of anonymous blocks and solid hatches; font families no man has ever seen, except on the occasional printout handed in, etcetera.

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Re: AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2010, 04:35:49 PM »
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Translation:
There's no .NET, the Lisp may be broken, else it won't need porting, and coming up soon: a fascinating employment opportunity for ARXdevs.

Oh heck. As someone who doesn't want to write anymore code for Autocad, except for occasional fun and sport, this has me extremely interested. Will probably go ahead and buy Acad for the Mac and take advantage of the new contract programming opportunities it presents.
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Re: AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2010, 04:37:43 PM »
People who will buy macs to use AutoCAD:

IT nerds and Architects...

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Re: AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2010, 04:43:03 PM »
So if you are wanting to take advantage of .NET what languages are out there and what compiler would you use.

 

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Re: AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2010, 04:58:00 PM »
So if you are wanting to take advantage of .NET what languages are out there and what compiler would you use.

I assume you're asking for OS X in combination with Acad? At this point there doesn't appear to be any options. If you are just looking to do some .Net on OS X then check out the Mono project http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page.
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Re: AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2010, 06:57:48 AM »
Macs...another minority group getting pandered to...< deep sigh >

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Re: AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2010, 07:47:19 AM »
The only reason I could come up with this is - Some mac lover just got too high in the Autodesk food chain....

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Re: AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2010, 08:49:03 AM »
The only reason I could come up with this is - Some mac lover just got too high in the Autodesk food chain....

It's pretty simple. The 8% and growing US Mac ownership is hard to ignore, and the 27% which own or plan to own iPad, well AD would be insane to not have a presence on that platform.

Back of the napkin here, but
100 developers at $200 hr (salary, benefits, etc.)
100 misc others involved in the port project @ $200 hr (salary, benefits, etc).
2 years development time @ 2080 hrs a year.
$2000 per seat AD pockets
200 * 200 * 4160 = $166,400,000 to develop and bring to market.
So about 83,000 seats need to be sold to break even. Can that number of seats be obtained in the first year? How about by the third year?

Anyway, it's about money and market trends. Autodesk is late getting back into the Mac market, but in the long run it won't hurt them at all. Not unless they lay an egg with this first release. Stay with Windows, switch to Mac, doesn't matter either way, Autodesk makes money.


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Re: AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2010, 07:40:26 PM »
My hope is that Autodesk will come up with or better yet adopt a platform agnostic language that will work on either (any) platform. (F#, Ruby, Python, BOO etc)
My nightmare is that Autodesk will not decide which to support so they will make the claim that they will support them all. Sure to FAIL.

Imagine a simple, high level, robust language that would be easy to learn and use.
An API with a built-in IDE that you could work with from right inside AutoCAD.
You could knock out simple programs in hours or even minutes.

Hey! I just described VBA.
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Re: AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2010, 07:52:29 PM »
Well, it certainly wouldn't be F# or any other sharp.  Python would probably be the easiest to implement . 

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Re: AutoCAD for Mac ..... donalds
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2010, 09:27:34 AM »
People who will buy macs to use AutoCAD:

IT nerds and Architects...
HAHAHAHA That was way too funny
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