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Andrea

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How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« on: May 01, 2010, 03:13:02 PM »
Hi all.

All know about TrueView is a FREE viewer made by autoDESK.

This week I've learn this:
Using TrueView as an EDITOR is possible !

How to ?
-Open notePad
-write come autoCAD command such as "_GRIPS"
-select all and copy to clipboard.
than..
-Open a session of TrueView
-Paste this command in command line

there it is..
you can now select entity and copy, paste rotate etc..

How come ?
I think autocad forgot to put some reactor on copyclip.  ;-P

But !
I didn't test all commands, but it seem that "SAVE" "QSAVE" and "SAVEAS" command not working..
However, they forgot to remove "_-WBLOCK" command allowing user to save as all AutoCAD format.

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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2010, 11:31:58 AM »
Finally, a way we can let our bosses try out their own little versions of autocad with trueview.  This will keep them busy for days.

But this is an incredible find, Andrea! 

This isn't going to turn in to some kind of legal fiasco is it?  When will this "feature" disapear from trueview?  Certainly by the next release.  Bets are currently being taken.
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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2010, 10:14:36 AM »
nope...it still the same thing eaven on last release..(at the moment)

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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2010, 10:27:04 AM »
I personally think it's crazy to exploit an oversight, I mean it's only a matter of time before they fix it, so the benefits are short term and at best uncertain -- notwithstanding the ethics. Rhetorical musing ... I wonder how warm the OP would be to someone finding an oversight in the 0dcl run-times that people could exploit so they could distribute and run 0dcl based apps without requiring any licensing. Hmmm.
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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2010, 10:29:31 AM »
Quote from: MP on May 03, 2010, 10:27:04 AM
I personally think it's crazy to exploit an oversight,

It looked to me that the OP was disappointed in this dangerous oversight in the software, not overjoyed...
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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2010, 10:52:14 AM »
I don't share your interpretation.
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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2010, 12:32:44 PM »
the fact is...

I just want to advise users that if someone use the viewer....
he can return the drawing modified..

be advised.
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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2010, 12:52:32 PM »
Well forgive my misunderstanding and thanks for the warning. As not to confuse I'll leave the original post intact.
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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2010, 08:38:31 AM »
I've tried all I can. but I have found no way of saving / wblocking a file once I have made changes to it, using TrueView.  I should add, that I have been using the 2009 version.
However, it is possible to create non-CAD file formats from the changes i.e. pdf / dwf etc and paper copies.
This in itself, is dangerous.

This kind of information will not be getting shared out amongst my office, as they are all mostly renegeade CAD'ders anyway; a little more information in their armoury would be dangerous imo
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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2010, 09:58:40 AM »
Quote from: Chortle on May 04, 2010, 08:38:31 AM
I've tried all I can. but I have found no way of saving / wblocking a file once I have made changes to it, using TrueView.  I should add, that I have been using the 2009 version.
However, it is possible to create non-CAD file formats from the changes i.e. pdf / dwf etc and paper copies.
This in itself, is dangerous.

This kind of information will not be getting shared out amongst my office, as they are all mostly renegeade CAD'ders anyway; a little more information in their armoury would be dangerous imo

Well,...I think the other way...
More we have information about "BUGS" better it will be for CAD manager.
this information must be shared because it is not a cheat or a crack....but a big mistake from AutoDESK.
than, If I didn't share this information..someone else will do.
Also, I've tried "._-wblock" eaven with TrueView 2010...and still working.

for Cad Manager this information is important to know.
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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2010, 10:06:07 AM »


These are NOT bugs Andrea.

You're kidding yourself if you really believe that.
 

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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2010, 10:12:36 AM »
Quote from: Kerry Brown on May 04, 2010, 10:06:07 AM


These are NOT bugs Andrea.

You're kidding yourself if you really believe that.
 



Oooh.. !  sorry Kerry,..I tought that was a viewer.   :evil:
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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2010, 10:13:25 AM »
Wow, this thread got dramatic.
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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2010, 10:16:55 AM »

If you are so concerned about it, have you advised AutoDesk ??


and I'd be intersested in your explaination of HOW 'you' discovered this functionality.

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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2010, 10:34:23 AM »
Quote from: Kerry Brown on May 04, 2010, 10:16:55 AM

If you are so concerned about it, have you advised AutoDesk ??


and I'd be intersested in your explaination of HOW 'you' discovered this functionality.



Someone show me this information and was already on the net.
here
Yes, AutoDESK as been advised and already know about this "Bug".

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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2010, 08:03:35 AM »
Thanks for the Info.

However I just want to yell out RAAAIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDD!!  :lol:
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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2010, 11:02:45 AM »
I don't understand why there is a problem with this.

Someone could NEVER use this software to create dwgs for construction or ????

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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2010, 06:36:16 PM »
Quote from: craigr on May 05, 2010, 11:02:45 AM
I don't understand why there is a problem with this.

Someone could NEVER use this software to create dwgs for construction or ????

craigr

But someone could modify (and wblock out) drawings that are on the network if they only have access to the viewer and they're, I dunno, ticked off that they only have access to the viewer.

As a CAD manager I found this information to be enlightening. As a CAD manager with Engineers who are upset that they only have access to the viewer I now have an answer should something like the above scenario actually happen.

If you're working on a project and your competitor (who is supposed to be working with you on site) "only has the viewer" and access to your submitted drawings, and it's in the best interests of that competitor to see you fail (or look stupid)... knowing that they could modify your drawings with "just the viewer" is a handy bit of information to have.

Sounds outrageous?

It isn't.
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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2010, 06:51:52 PM »
Quote from: craigr on May 05, 2010, 11:02:45 AM
I don't understand why there is a problem with this.

Someone could NEVER use this software to create dwgs for construction or ????

craigr

I have seen people walk halfway down the street to cross in the middle of the block through traffic, when they could have gone back 10 feet and used the crosswalk.  Likewise, I've had users open Eagle Point terrain models in ProSteel because they couldn't be bothered.  The best way, or even the easiest way, isn't always the path chosen.   :roll:
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Re: How to modify drawing with TrueView ?
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2010, 09:54:11 AM »
I have three engineers here, two of whom HATE having to come to us for "simple" changes.  They find out about this....I'm screwed!  I'll never be able to trust a dwg again......just saying....... :realmad:
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