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CHulse

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Paperspace base point moved?
« on: November 24, 2009, 12:53:56 PM »
Usually, 0,0 is at the lower left of the layout "white area" in paperspace.
Not now - it's about 3" off in x and y. So the lower left of the paper area is actually at 3.59,2.49.  :ugly:

Does anyone know why this is and how to correct it? Please?
My title comes in in the wrong place...
Somehow it got changed in my template also...

Thanks in advance
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Re: Paperspace base point moved?
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2009, 12:55:00 PM »
did your plotting offset in options get changed to edge of paper vs. printable area?
do you have a file to upload?
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Re: Paperspace base point moved?
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2009, 01:03:40 PM »
Not that I am aware of. Even if it had, it shouldn't have moved it 3", right?

I'll post my template...

http://www.theswamp.org/lilly_pond/index.php?dir=CHulse/&file=TCOT-STANDARD%202010.dwt
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Re: Paperspace base point moved?
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2009, 01:18:36 PM »
Quote from: CHulse on November 24, 2009, 01:03:40 PM
Not that I am aware of. Even if it had, it shouldn't have moved it 3", right?

I'll post my template...

http://www.theswamp.org/lilly_pond/index.php?dir=CHulse/&file=TCOT-STANDARD%202010.dwt


yes it would...if it was set to use edge of paper...not printable area....from HELP file:

The printable area of a drawing sheet is defined by the selected output device and is represented by the dashed line in a layout. You can change the position of plot relative to the printable area or to the edge of the paper.

The printable area of a drawing sheet is defined by the selected output device and is represented by the dashed line in a layout. When you change to another output device, the printable area may change.

The settings in the Plot Offset area of the Plot dialog box specify an offset of the plot area relative to the lower-left corner (the origin) of the printable area or the edge of the paper, depending on the setting made in the Specify Plot Offset Relative To option (Options dialog box, Plot and Publish tab). The Plot Offset area of the Plot dialog box displays the specified plot offset option in parentheses.

You can offset the drawing on the paper by entering positive or negative values in the X and Y offset boxes. However, this may result in the plot area being clipped. If the Plot Area is not set to Layout (Extents, Display, View, or Window), you can also select the Center the Plot option.

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Re: Paperspace base point moved?
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2009, 01:24:31 PM »
Sure it would move it, but surely not 3"??
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Re: Paperspace base point moved?
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2009, 01:28:55 PM »
what ever the offset information was...3" 6"....whatever....

the truth is that should one use Inked Area Limits, and have ones Page Setup properly configured there is rarely if EVER any need to add any plot offset, or 'center' plot information.....adesk added the Edge of Paper option back in because too many people were not properly trained, or just could not adapt to using inked area limits for their page setup specifications. (old dog new trick)

I found it quite laughable that they felt a need to add the Edge of Paper option back in at all... ;-)
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CHulse

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Re: Paperspace base point moved?
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2009, 01:29:43 PM »
Having tested this a bit - that moved it about 2 tenths in x and y...


Still no idea where the 3+" is coming from...
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Re: Paperspace base point moved?
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2009, 01:32:21 PM »
could be time to set up a NEW Named Page Setup....using Inked Area...NO offsets....and test again...then throw away whatever BAD one(s) are in your Template...
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Re: Paperspace base point moved?
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2009, 01:33:26 PM »
Quote from: mjfarrell on November 24, 2009, 01:28:55 PM
what ever the offset information was...3" 6"....whatever....

the truth is that should one use Inked Area Limits, and have ones Page Setup properly configured there is rarely if EVER any need to add any plot offset, or 'center' plot information.....adesk added the Edge of Paper option back in because too many people were not properly trained, or just could not adapt to using inked area limits for their page setup specifications. (old dog new trick)

I found it quite laughable that they felt a need to add the Edge of Paper option back in at all... ;-)

Ok, sorry - I see we were talking about 2 different things. In Options, it's set to "Edge of Paper" as it always has been. In the page setup, no offset is applied.

Edge of Paper vs. Printable Area gives about 2 tenths difference. What I cannot acccount for is the additional 3 inches or so...
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Re: Paperspace base point moved?
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2009, 01:52:50 PM »
and what printer/plotter are you using (no access to 2010 today), as I've had some issues with various HP models...

again I say start over with a brand new Named Page Setup
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Re: Paperspace base point moved?
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2009, 02:05:58 PM »
I've tried various page seups/plotters/pdf drivers and they are all the same.
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Re: Paperspace base point moved?
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2009, 02:37:37 PM »
well w/o the cutepdf pc3 file, I get pagesetup set to none.  what size are you trying to print to?
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Re: Paperspace base point moved?
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2009, 02:54:48 PM »
Quote from: CHulse on November 24, 2009, 02:05:58 PM
I've tried various page seups/plotters/pdf drivers and they are all the same.

yes, however where are they coming from?
Are you making them from scratch?  And are you verifying that within the Page Sizes, that no one has altered the printable area(margins?) of the page sizes in question?

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Re: Paperspace base point moved?
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2009, 06:23:09 PM »
I made them all from scratch.

It doesn't matter what size - try anything and see what you get. I tried Arch D and Ledger...
It only seems to be this DWT or those based on it. Other files from other templated work fine with the same Page Setup settings.
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Re: Paperspace base point moved?
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2009, 06:34:40 PM »
time to throw that (bad) one away and move on....
any of the files so affected should be *inserted into a new dwg based on a good template
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