Topic: LABEL STYLES

[tcopeland]

I am trying to get a comment field to show up with the points when they are displayed on the screen.  What I have already done is created a user defined property classification under the point settings toolspace.  This has 3 new columns for us to gather information that is placed in the data collector as notes.  I then copied the label style Point#-Elevation-Code and created a new one that will have the survey notes, Point#-Elevation-Code-Notes.  I have also created a new point file format that will allow me to bring in the information from the data collector.  (I have loaded in a test file and was able to parse it out correctly with the notes showing up)

So the question of the day is this.  Why when I go to import the point using the survey database import events it does not bring with it the information that would be located in the comments or notes column.  I have went back and changed the point label style to the one listed above, but when I view the imported points looking at it through the edit points or view points it does not show anything being in the column for the comments.  It is blank!  I have looked at the asc file and it does show the notes being there in a comma delimited format.  Somewhere during the import process it looses the survey comments.

Now here is the other conundrum when I use the points menu to import the points they come in correctly with the comments showing up as I had them set up to do so.  I know that I can merge the points in with the other survey information, but I should be able to bring all of the information at once and get the same result.

Any help would be appreciated.

[mjfarrell]

they should be showing up at a minimum in the autocad properties window...

the label value will not show up in the label style composer...

can a I see a copy of the ascii file?

and I'm fair certain it will show up should you use the Import Points option, sugesting that in your Import Event proccessing, that you NOT bring in the point objects

[tcopeland]

I do not see anything showing up in any of the properties boxes.  See what you can come up with.

[mjfarrell]

is there a point in particular that satisfys the HAS all THREE extra fields criteria?

I don't think this file (the one posted) has the extra comma delimited entries...? ? ?

read the text in the attached image file ....


your notes do not seem to be a) in the file  b)properly formatted....

[tcopeland]

My bad Michael.  We were able to get rid of the extra columns of information that was not needed, so all of the survey comments are at the end of the description code.  Also not every shot that was taken had a comment attached to it.

[mjfarrell]

well, we may still need those other columns...send me one single point that has all three columns worth of data connected to it, even if it's totally fake...for testing purposes...

[tcopeland]

This this out.  I am wondering if I need to get rid of the other information in the point label style.  Another thing I managed to hide my surface and I can't get it back.  How can I fix that?

[mjfarrell]

This this out.  I am wondering if I need to get rid of the other information in the point label style.  Another thing I managed to hide my surface and I can't get it back.  How can I fix that?

rt click

end object isolation...

or in toolspace change the style assigned to the surface you have 'lost'

[mjfarrell]

your data is now space and comma delimited... get rid of the extra spaces
test these points:

2,10042.7886,5202.6813,96.5967,CP,test,this,note
5,10215.8181,5005.1395,97.6749,CP,I,added,this information
6,10401.1059,5003.1378,98.6763,CP,manually,to the,txt file

[mjfarrell]

WE need to add a disclaimer to this topic.

The label items using extra notes or attributes using User Defined Point Properties, has a FLAW in versions prior to 2010.
The attributes, will show up when you Import the point data into your file. After you save and close the file; when you reopen the file the user defined properties information will NO LONGER be attached to the points.

[sinc]

Actually, from what I've seen, the data is still there, it just disappears from C3D 2009 and can't be seen.  But if you open the drawing in 2010, everything is fine (albeit upgraded to the 2010 version).

Do the extra columns come in when importing a FBK file through the Survey Database?  I've only used the extra columns when importing points from a CSV file, and not when importing FBK.

[tcopeland]

your data is now space and comma delimited... get rid of the extra spaces
test these points:

2,10042.7886,5202.6813,96.5967,CP,test,this,note
5,10215.8181,5005.1395,97.6749,CP,I,added,this information
6,10401.1059,5003.1378,98.6763,CP,manually,to the,txt file

Did you try to import the information from the text file I sent earlier?  This file is formated the correct way but it only has one column of information.  I did try to import the text file using only one column of information and I still couldn't get it to work.  So I am guessing that I am doing something else wrong.

[tcopeland]

Actually, from what I've seen, the data is still there, it just disappears from C3D 2009 and can't be seen.  But if you open the drawing in 2010, everything is fine (albeit upgraded to the 2010 version).

Do the extra columns come in when importing a FBK file through the Survey Database?  I've only used the extra columns when importing points from a CSV file, and not when importing FBK.

I should have made a note earlier that I am using C3D 2010.  The file that I have imported is an ASC or a TXT file.  The data collector places all of the field notes at the end of the string (P,N,E,Z,V,then the note or notes).

I have not generated an FBK file due to some other code issues not working with the new release of the software.  I will give it a try tomorrow and see what happens.

Why though when I go through the exact same process using the Points menu to insert them it all works correctly?

[mjfarrell]

one is the insert points option...and the other one is the Import Event on the Survey Tab, and even though one might think they should function exactly the same, they do not.

[mjfarrell]

your data is now space and comma delimited... get rid of the extra spaces
test these points:

2,10042.7886,5202.6813,96.5967,CP,test,this,note
5,10215.8181,5005.1395,97.6749,CP,I,added,this information
6,10401.1059,5003.1378,98.6763,CP,manually,to the,txt file

Did you try to import the information from the text file I sent earlier?  This file is formated the correct way but it only has one column of information.  I did try to import the text file using only one column of information and I still couldn't get it to work.  So I am guessing that I am doing something else wrong.

No I did not, because you have/had too many delimitters, you have comma space information, the 'extra' space needs to go away...

2000,10444.7852,4822.5276,102.0525,STNSET, this, is, just a test
2001,10437.4203,4797.6784,102.5981,GUT7 B, does, this, actually work
2002,10436.541,4797.8406,102.1363,FL7 B, I, did, get
2003,10434.6841,4797.5401,102.2572,EA7 B, the file, to parse, with only
2004,10437.4466,4801.8939,102.1273,GUT7, one, set, of information

see them spaces?  make them gone...