Topic: Cross Drains Not Right in Sections

[dfarris75]

I am creating my cross sections along a roadway and where there are cross drains some aren't plotting the pipes and others show the pipe across the entire section view. Does anyone know what's going on here?

[mjfarrell]

I am creating my cross sections along a roadway and where there are cross drains some aren't plotting the pipes and others show the pipe across the entire section view. Does anyone know what's going on here?

I know a guy that knows exactly what is going on here....

http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=25270.0

[dfarris75]

Err. Looky.

[dfarris75]

It appears to be adding elliptical representations of the cross drain pipe (where the pipe does not show) or something.

[mjfarrell]

send me data...

[Lin-Z]

Are you using two seperate styles for the structures that are showing up differently?

[dfarris75]

This is a pipe problem. I'm pretty much using the same style for all structures though.

[mjfarrell]

You will want to set up separate runs, as this is the SAME problem that the linked user was having.

This is a case of the software not giving the user any control over the 'depth' of the slice that is taken at the section.
In this case one will probably want to create many separate networks to be able to effectively control what is and isn't visible in each section as well as the pipe display style being applied to the network within each section that one does decide to show the pipes in.

[dfarris75]

You're kidding.  Would I have to create a different network for each crossing and then one network where it follows the roadway (ie - is parallel to the road)?

Is there a way to divide a network up into smaller networks?

[mjfarrell]

 


I am not one known for kidding


 

seriously notice how autodesk gives us Fantastic control over pipe(s) and networks for profiles,
and then notice the lack of display control for ones section views...

[mjfarrell]

for as few section as one has on this particular job, one might chose to use profiles instead of sections...

[dfarris75]

 :realmad: What a !@$#% crock! I've sat here for a whole $#@!^& day putting these %$#@! pipe &^$#@ networks in this #!%#$ %$#@!%$ drawing and now you're !@#$% saying to do $#@!$ profiles instead of $#@!%# sections???!!! This !@#$ was supposed to be saving me $#@!^% time!!! Is this issue even !@#$%# documented anywhere other than at forums like this?! Surely there's a big red WARNING in the help file somewhere that instructs the user to break their pipe networks down into smaller networks and call them sub-networks or something.

So you're saying to go create alignments and profiles every where I have pipe runs? $#@!

How much did we (or our respective employers) pay for this software again?

[mjfarrell]

I'm saying one has MORE control over pipes and pipe networks in Profile Views than one has in Section Views.

For the amount of work that I've seen in this case; it could be a toss between breaking your 'network' into sections along each major lateral, and or change in direction, and running alignments and profile views for same in this ONE case.

otherwise one could sample multiple sections at the same station.... in different sample line groups... could be done if not unwieldy to manage...and then stack the section views...messy...


I think there are meds for the C3D induced Turret's you are suffering from...

[Lin-Z]

Just curious and I don't have a drawing I can try this out on - What happens if you move your section lines just a little in front of the pipe as opposed to through it?

[dfarris75]

It disappears completely in section view.