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KewlToyZ

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Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« on: February 23, 2009, 11:45:51 AM »
I found this one concept fairly simple and quick with Rhinocerous.
But AutoCAD it seems to be neglected.
Export Layout to Model is a nice feature for simpler drawings.
But it is still the 3D objects instead of a flattened 2d drawing.

I tried SuperFlatten and the Legacy Z-Zero process without any real effect.
I exploded the 3d objects and tried both commands again with no help.
All connecting lines disappear if I explode any more and I end up with nothing useful.
What would seem simple is escaping me once again.
Am I missing something or is this just the nature of AutoCAD after so many generations still in 2009?
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KewlToyZ

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Re: Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2009, 12:23:24 PM »
Here is an example file for what I am trying to flatten to a 2D projected image.
Cross Section doesnt work either.
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MickD

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Re: Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2009, 02:42:19 PM »
Have you tried solview/solprof/soldraw?
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deegeecees

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Re: Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2009, 03:18:02 PM »
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deegeecees

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Re: Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2009, 03:25:08 PM »
Quote from: KewlToyZ on February 23, 2009, 12:23:24 PM
Here is an example file for what I am trying to flatten to a 2D projected image.
Cross Section doesnt work either.

What created all those Proxy Objects?
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Tom

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Re: Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2009, 04:03:31 PM »
Have you tried Flatshot? this creates a 2d plan of solids and regions
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MickD

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Re: Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2009, 04:07:50 PM »
Quote from: DGCS on February 23, 2009, 03:18:02 PM
Quote from: MickD on February 23, 2009, 02:42:19 PM
Have you tried solview/solprof/soldraw?

Or this:

http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=11661.msg254435#msg254435

heh, thanks, that saved me finding it ;)

I think it's a good idea to use the built in tools first as you don't always have custom tools to hand when you need them most!

Solview and soldraw are pretty good once you get into a rythym, I used them all the time before I created my own tools. I'd hate to go back though ;)
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deegeecees

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Re: Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2009, 04:58:27 PM »
I opened KT's drawing and (I believe) the portion he wants to flatten is made up of proxy objects, not solids. I haven't had to deal with proxy objects in a while, and not sure as to how/if he needs to convert them to regions, or solids first. I could recreate the cable tray, but time is always an issue with me.
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Re: Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2009, 04:59:46 PM »
Quote from: DGCS on February 23, 2009, 04:58:27 PM
.... but time is always an issue with me.

*Pink Floyd starts playing in the background*
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KewlToyZ

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Re: Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2009, 05:29:33 PM »
Thanks for the tips gang!
I beleive the proxy objects came from either me exploding it once or the actual AutoCAD Export Layout To Model.
I'll take a look at this tomorrow morning with the original file and see if i can assess what is really going on here.
I'm buried in creating Dynamic Blocks from Details to make my Networked Palettes issues history instead of waiting on Autodesk to fix them.
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Joe Burke

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Re: Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2009, 08:15:12 AM »
Just to confirm what you already found, the design intent of SuperFlatten does not include the example file you posted containing solid objects.
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deegeecees

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Re: Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2009, 10:12:54 AM »
Quote from: DGCS on February 23, 2009, 04:58:27 PM
I opened KT's drawing and (I believe) the portion he wants to flatten is made up of proxy objects, not solids. I haven't had to deal with proxy objects in a while, and not sure as to how/if he needs to convert them to regions, or solids first. I could recreate the cable tray, but time is always an issue with me.

D'oh! I was able to create solprof entities using '09.
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deegeecees

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Re: Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2009, 10:16:18 AM »
Quote from: Maverick© on February 23, 2009, 04:59:46 PM
Quote from: DGCS on February 23, 2009, 04:58:27 PM
.... but time is always an issue with me.

*Pink Floyd starts playing in the background*

"Ticking away... the moments that make up a dull day..."
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KewlToyZ

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Re: Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2009, 10:27:25 AM »
Thanks Joe.
It's been awhile since I had a mechanical manufacturing 3D AutoCAD product drawing.
I tried SuperFlatten out of haste. It was a solid model.
Curious how exploding it makes it a surface model/proxy objects.

I haven't worked with AutoCAD's actual 3D for awhile other than aec content in MEP.
The current production standard requires the backgrounds being used must be flattened.

Thanks DGCS
solview/solprof/soldraw all appear to be layout tab only tools.
Doesn't quite give me what I needed.

flatshot did the trick just fine once I ran _exportlayout.
Took me a few times to figure out the options in it.
But really a handy pair of tools.
What I wanted was all of the notes and object views in one simple 2D model layout.
These two did most of the work.
I wish they had a command line switch with options.
I may try and see if I can get to them in another way to call in a routine.
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KewlToyZ

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Re: Project 3D to 2D with AutoCAD?
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2009, 10:33:22 AM »
Thanks for the other references as well.
With MEP I get the usual AEC Object warnings as well.

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