Topic: How many people are changing to AUTOCAD 2010?

[whdjr]

So what version is everyone currently using and are you going to upgrade?


We are using 2006 and looking at Revit.  2010 has some good things in ti that look enticing.

[dustinthiesse]

We are currently using 2008.
It doesn't seem as if we'll get much of a benefit from the upgrade so we will most likely not spend the money on it.

[Matt__W]

We're currently running AutoCAD Architecture 2008, Civil 3D 2008, MEP 2008, Revit Structure 2009 and Revit MEP 2009.  We're usually the ones that have to save our files down to 2004 so the other clients/architects can read our drawings.

And with the economy the way it is right now, it doesn't make much sense for us to roll out an entirely new looking/feeling/acting software that is only going to eat up valuable time/money trying to learn.  We're focusing more on Revit since a lot of the archies are now asking us to provide everything in Revit. So we've got THAT hurdle to get over as well.  Needless to say, I'm keeping quite busy.

[jonesy]

Ours depends. We are on subscription, but our machines barely work on 2009, and some only just support the version that will be retired this year, so the next few months will be interesting.

We also have Revit structure on our machines, but we are waiting for Autodesk to come and show the bosses here the full capabilities of the software, so they in turn can convince clients.

[Krushert]

We will be changing from Architecture 2008 to Architecture 2010.  But Matt and Jonesy bring up good points.  Has anyone seen horsepower requirements to run 2010?

[pmvliet]

I'm running pretty slow on work, so I'm thinking of diving in with both feet - maybe.
The big hurdle for me as krushert stated was horsepower requirements.
If it's too much for my desktop or laptop, then it will probably sit on the shelf.

I'd be running/installing MEP so that will have it's own issues as well.

Can't do nothing until it's on my doorstep though.

Pieter

[Bryco]

This is going to be interesting, first messing with the vba then seeing if it slows us down.
We are still on 2008 w/ 2009 sitting in the box for good reason, it's slow as a wet week.

[Atook]

I'm sure I'll get there eventually.

But lack of VBA will put me off for a while.

[Julie@Integra]

I chose "No", and "Maybe Later" (because I never say 'never').

I currently use AutoCAD Mechanical 2008 (utilizing it as Vanilla). I almost always have to save my drawings as 2000 for my clients who are waaaaaaay behind. Once in a great while, someone will ask for 2006 or later (which I can give 'em). The ONLY way I'd upgrade is if all/most of my clients made it necessary... and I just don't see that happening.  "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

[t-bear]

We're using 2K4 Mechanical right now.  We need to add another seat anyhow, so will probably use this as an opportunity to upgrade too.  So far, we've only had one customer who is ahead of us (2k8) which requires them to "save as" for us.  The 3D package is what catches my eye...not sure just how handy parametric will be for us, but I want to take a look at it.  So yes, we will probably upgrade some time this year.............

[ronjonp]

I voted maybe...if it's faster than '09 and our software works with it..then definitely.

[jonesy]

I voted maybe...if it's faster than '09 and our software works with it..then definitely.

We've got our reseller and Autodesk coming in next week, I'll have to try to remember to ask if our systems will be able to run the new versions

[wannabe]

I'm looking forward to Microstation v8i being installed at work. In fact, I've wet myself 5 times I think it's that good.

[Crank]

I voted maybe...if it's faster than '09 and our software works with it..then definitely.

You will be surprised how much 2010 has improved compared with 2009. It's much faster than 2009 and a lot of bugs are solved.

We are on subscription, but a year ago I decided to upgrade to 2008 and make 2009 shelfware because the bad performance of 2009.
Now our company will use Windows7 asap, we'll wait until then. If that wasn't the case I would switch inmedially.

[Willie]

maybe later. 

[ronjonp]

I voted maybe...if it's faster than '09 and our software works with it..then definitely.

You will be surprised how much 2010 has improved compared with 2009. It's much faster than 2009 and a lot of bugs are solved.

We are on subscription, but a year ago I decided to upgrade to 2008 and make 2009 shelfware because the bad performance of 2009.
Now our company will use Windows7 asap, we'll wait until then. If that wasn't the case I would switch inmedially.

That is great to hear . Now only if our in-house irrigation software and Bentley WaterCAD work with it....then a upgrading we will go.

[M-dub]

I voted Yes and Maybe Later.  We're now on subscription, but we'll have to see what's going on in the office by the time it's shipped out.
I will also have to check with our EDMS software providers (Synergis Adept) to see about compatability.

Is 2010 year one of a new 'format' based on the three year cycle?

[CHulse]

We're on subscription wth C3D 2009 now, so we'll get there eventually... :whistle:

[Krushert]

Now our company will use Windows7 asap, we'll wait until then. If that wasn't the case I would switch inmedially.

IS this a requirement for 2010 to run?  Has anyone seen any system requirements for 2010?

[M-dub]

Now our company will use Windows7 asap, we'll wait until then. If that wasn't the case I would switch inmedially.

IS this a requirement for 2010 to run?  Has anyone seen any system requirements for 2010?

I sure hope not.  I don't think that would be a wise move on their part (Autodesk's).

[dustinthiesse]

Is 2010 year one of a new 'format' based on the three year cycle?

Yes.

[sinc]

IS this a requirement for 2010 to run?  Has anyone seen any system requirements for 2010?

I sure hope not.  I don't think that would be a wise move on their part (Autodesk's).

It sounds like Windows 7 isn't slated to be released until at least the end of the year, and maybe not even until next year.  And considering nearly all of their customers are using XP or maybe Vista, making it a requirement to have Windows 7 would be self-destructive on Autodesk's part.

But have you really known them to be that far on the cutting-edge?  (We still don't have 64-bit C3D...)

[Matt__W]

Now our company will use Windows7 asap, we'll wait until then. If that wasn't the case I would switch inmedially.

IS this a requirement for 2010 to run?  Has anyone seen any system requirements for 2010?

I sure hope not.  I don't think that would be a wise move on their part (Autodesk's).

I'm going to take a page out of Josh's book and post this.   

[M-dub]

Now our company will use Windows7 asap, we'll wait until then. If that wasn't the case I would switch inmedially.

IS this a requirement for 2010 to run?  Has anyone seen any system requirements for 2010?

I sure hope not.  I don't think that would be a wise move on their part (Autodesk's).

I'm going to take a page out of Josh's book and post this.   

Alright, smart a leck... Can you please post the results you found for 2010 System Requirements?  I did the exact same google search as you and didn't find it.  I hadn't finished re-reading the blogs that Kate had posted yet, though.

[KewlToyZ]

I need to run 2010 to see its performance advances.
Especially with auditing AEC files from clients.
2008 & 2009 tank on nonsense with AEC files so often with bad data in the drawing database.
No reasonable progress indicators for the system on its second pass either.
So far I found 2009 MEP SP2 more stable than 2008 and faster if the machine is under two years old.
But most Engineers look at it like a totally alien environment.
If 2010 finally made the palettes manageable with the cui and easily updateable without destroying the profile and reloading it.
Also the Select Similiar command available to the Vanilla platform then I would think Autodesk finally listened.
If recoverall is finally batchable I will beleive Autodesk listened to its clients.
If I can get -ExportToAutoCAD to actually bind large project files without manually pairing down into the child XREF's first and renaming them. Even better if they made it a feature of DWG True View without losing the geometry.
30 or more XREF's with 18 layouts and 4 viewports apiece is some of the horrors I have seen from clients lately.
Just because they can do it doesnt mean it is any way productive.

[sinc]

If 2010 finally made the palettes manageable with the cui and easily updateable without destroying the profile and reloading it.

Couldn't follow this.  I haven't ever noticed any issues like this...  Can you elaborate?

[KewlToyZ]

If I want to update the items on a palette for networked palettes, the only way to get every workstation to recognize it is to rename the current profile and reload an updated version with the new palettes on every workstation.
The palettes, groups, and formatting are scattered throughout so many files that updating is a royal pain in the arse.
Profiles do not update everytime they are loaded, there is stuff in the Windows registry & FixedProfile.aws that just doesnt budge unless I blow it out.

[Crank]

Now our company will use Windows7 asap, we'll wait until then. If that wasn't the case I would switch inmedially.

IS this a requirement for 2010 to run?  Has anyone seen any system requirements for 2010?

It's not a requirement for 2010, official Acad2010 doesn't support Windows7 yet, because that is still in beta. But on the beta forum no bugs were reported related to the use of Windows7.
We wait because there is also money infolved to install Autocad on so many PC's. With an update at the same time as the new OS we have to install only once.

[KewlToyZ]

FYI
AutoCAD MEP 2009 takes almost 45 minutes to install on each workstation.
Remaking the deployment with the service packs results in all previous installations unable to repair or re-install themselves. You have to spend 30-40 minutes uninstalling, then doing an new installation for 45 minutes...
I hope the retard that made it that way chokes on his food.

[kdub_nz]

FYI
< ... > takes almost 45 minutes to install on each workstation.

You could always go back to drafting on the board.   

[Kerry]

 just to qualify that ^^

I've always considered the installation and updating of software part of the cost of doing business ...

and as my mom would say  don't complain (too much) about loading the dishwasher

[KewlToyZ]

I can't qualify the Deployment package that uses all 1.7 GB with 1.2 GB of content instead of just the 4-500 MB core application repairs. Add 10 minutes for the service pack after the install too.

Using the same program, the same license server, the same serial number, the same installation location, it refuses to recognize itself with the service pack merged with the deployment.

That is in no way resembling the use of a dishwasher. It's like rebuilding the Hoover Dam because the paint was chipped.