Ok, it has been forever since I tried to use the scale factor in the zoom command. (zoom;scale) The surveyor here is using Field Survey from Autodesk and cannot get his drawing to a scale in Paperspace. When he activates a viewport, the only way he could set it's scale to say 1:20 is to use the scale factor in the zoom command. My question is how is that done? I cannot remember how to do this to save my life. I remember something about xp is paperspace and x is model, but I am not sure. I currently use AutoCad Map and I have a toolbar called Viewports that has a drop down box to set the scale of a viewport in paperspace when activated. He doesn't have this toolbar, so there is no way to set the scale. I have never used Field Survey and he's the surveyor, so I'm just trying to be the CAD all here and fix everyone's problem. Thanks