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Bryco

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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2008, 04:46:45 PM »
I hate that too, yes that could do with better verbage.

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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2008, 05:48:57 PM »
Is everyone aware of Autodesk My Feedback Portal?

They have a forum that collects bugs and wishlists.

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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2008, 05:52:24 PM »
Is everyone aware of Autodesk My Feedback Portal?

They have a forum that collects bugs and wishlists.

I'll try there, too.

Not too optimistic, but I will.


Where?

All that it tells me is to go to the Discussion Groups, or be active in Beta.  It's obvious that being vocal on the Beta forums does nothing.

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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2008, 05:57:32 PM »
Is everyone aware of Autodesk My Feedback Portal?

They have a forum that collects bugs and wishlists.

Perhaps, but some people would rather vent than actually take action to get the problem fixed.
... and the attitude is infectious.

I'm particularly interested in how many real demonstrable, reproducable bugs there are that actually carry over between versions.
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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2008, 06:04:33 PM »
You're asking for skewed results by demanding they be reproducible and demonstrable.

There's a NUMBER of defects and bugs such as the one I mention, that cause Autocad to "hang up" at unplanned intervals.  By demanding demonstrable and reproducible errors, you're forcing people to conform to standards that eschew many common, known, admitted bugs that persist since I have been using Autocad since 2000i.  Hatch being the biggie.  Who -HASN'T- had the "pick point" method of selecting hatch boundary cause their application to lock up?  No one knows exactly how it happens, specifically, so it's a bug that will persist because it's simply elusive.

*edit*

In addition, I don't think anyone here, would rather vent than see it get fixed.  It's just the fact that there's apparently NO way to GET IT FIXED.

Show me one way.

You think this list will?  One can hope, but you seem to think that just being able to reproduce it will get it fixed.

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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2008, 06:17:20 PM »

Josh,

If we can't tell someone how to reproduce a defect it makes actually finding it really difficult.
Usually these defects result from a specific tasking sequence.


an analogy ;
"Doctor, I have a pain."
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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2008, 06:18:52 PM »
Where?

All that it tells me is to go to the Discussion Groups, or be active in Beta.  It's obvious that being vocal on the Beta forums does nothing.
Go to the discussion groups.

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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2008, 06:20:33 PM »
Who -HASN'T- had the "pick point" method of selecting hatch boundary cause their application to lock up? 
Raises hand ???

Josh Nieman

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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2008, 06:30:20 PM »
Who -HASN'T- had the "pick point" method of selecting hatch boundary cause their application to lock up? 
Raises hand ???

You don't count if you don't use 2D.

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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2008, 06:31:28 PM »
Who -HASN'T- had the "pick point" method of selecting hatch boundary cause their application to lock up? 
Raises hand ???

Do you work in 3D?  That seems to be a good cause for this one, as the HATCH command attempts to find boundaries among objects that are not all coplanar.  I had started to get rather fond of Hatch Tools, and was dismayed to discover that they are essentially unusable in C3D because of this issue.

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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2008, 06:33:59 PM »
Who -HASN'T- had the "pick point" method of selecting hatch boundary cause their application to lock up? 
Raises hand ???
Mine is raised, also.

Now, I have had it not find a boundary, but it has never locked up on me.

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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2008, 07:37:28 PM »
Who -HASN'T- had the "pick point" method of selecting hatch boundary cause their application to lock up? 
Raises hand ???
Mine is raised, also.

Now, I have had it not find a boundary, but it has never locked up on me.

Ditto.
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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2008, 07:45:06 PM »
You're asking for skewed results by demanding they be reproducible and demonstrable.

< .. >

Simple.  "This happens <insert your value for frequency > "
"When I do < this> and <this> and <this> ; sometimes < this> happens "

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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2008, 07:47:21 PM »

Josh,

If we can't tell someone how to reproduce a defect it makes actually finding it really difficult.
Usually these defects result from a specific tasking sequence.


an analogy ;
"Doctor, I have a pain."

Kerry,

This isn't exactly true. As I have a few emails twixt myself and an autodesk employee, whom will not admit there is a problem with XDREF's in C3D even though I can demonstrate that the function worked BEFORE the service pack and fails after. I can demonstrate that it works, and that it fails, and yet there has been no fix. Worse, I sent my data, and they refused to allow me to test it with their data.
Look at the error posted about Sheet Sets, it was designed such that a single sheet COULD belong to multiple sets; it never worked as advertised, and it won't get fixed either.
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Re: Demonstrable Bugs and Deficiencies List ( AutoCAD )
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2008, 07:48:09 PM »
Perhaps if someone adds a "ME TOO" post we may get an idea of how widespread the ramifications of some of these deficiencies are.

... We may even be able to determine a fix, given the correct information.
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