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Josh Nieman

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Re: Revit Volunteers: School house Project
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2008, 05:48:48 PM »
I may look into that.  I am pretty swamped at the moment though so it may be when I come in on the weekend or something, that I'll be able to try it out.

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Re: Revit Volunteers: School house Project
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2008, 05:49:36 PM »
Not sure what Autodesk would think of that virtual machine practice... :|

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Re: Revit Volunteers: School house Project
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2008, 05:57:33 PM »
Andy,

Are you going to be the Architect?


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Re: Revit Volunteers: School house Project
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2008, 06:03:55 PM »
Think we could get documentable PDHs for this? :P

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Re: Revit Volunteers: School house Project
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2008, 06:10:04 PM »
It is totally ineffective for production because of the performance hit when using the virtual - I would rather buy a seat than use it permanently that way. This sounds like an educational exercise or I would not have suggested it.  As to testing a new offering from the mother beast, with Civil 3D it is almost mandatory with every new release and service pack.  There has yet to be one yearly release that could successfully open and save drawings up or down regardless of the dwg formats.  Civil 3D Service packs have been notorious for breaking previously working features and also rendering third party apps non functioning.  It would be negligent to not check out these offerings in a controlled environment before risking a working project.  I will give up the VM when I can start trusting Autodesk to turn out the product without these compatibility issues.
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Re: Revit Volunteers: School house Project
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2008, 06:10:30 PM »
Andy,

Are you going to be the Architect?


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I'm not a licensed architect (yet)  :cry:
I wish I could help out, but I know I wouldn't be able to hold up my end of the time commitments.

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Re: Revit Volunteers: School house Project
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2008, 07:51:33 PM »
I'm not a licensed architect (yet)  :cry:

Whoa!? No need for that. This isnt going to be a real project in any way shape or form. We need 4 walls, 2 floors, and a roof that's it. Nothing calc'ed out by any means.

This exercise is a exercise in BIM more so then Revit.
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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2008, 08:35:12 PM »
I concur 7even, the structure has to be very rudimentary so we can learn the process involved with BIM and not the result (if we are going to learn anything here, it going to be because the result is a disaster!).  And also to learn the use of Revit, so we gotta keep this simple 'cuz Revit aint gonna help us there.

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Re: Revit Volunteers: School house Project
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2008, 09:39:59 PM »
Just to keep the ball rolling:  (If it ever was)

If I were the structural, I would recommend a structural system with a full-height steel tube (HSS) column at each corner and possibly one in-between the corner columns.  Then put beams between the columns both ways at the upper floor and the roof.  Put metal decking on both levels, and pour lightweight concrete on the upper floor.  The roof weather-in would be by the Architect.  Exterior walls would be a proprietary facade system as selected by the Architect.

So with that said, this stuff would all be entered into Revit by all of us, and magically it would all work.  Of course not.  Well, I'm starting to become game here.

Note to Architect:  Suggest some dimensions for the "very small school house"

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Re: Revit Volunteers: School house Project
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2008, 10:09:23 PM »
Like i said the details can be worked out when we get a team assembled.
(I'll be the PM if that helps any.)

I use Revit daily, i am fairly comfortable with Revit as a program; i wanted to do this to see and show what BIM is and what it is not. For instance the acronym Autodesk attached to Revit ``B I M'' stands for something entirely different then what is in our contracts with owners (And some Arch firms are paying the price for their ignorance in promising a ``BIM'' deliverable because of that acronym.).

Revit, BIM, IFC, etc.
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Re: Revit Volunteers: School house Project
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2008, 10:24:47 PM »
If you get it that far and have some pipes coming out, I could try dropping it onto a Civil 3D site and see what we can blow up.  Perhaps we could even do a little site plan.  Other than that, my structural experience is 15 years back and counting and my last electrifying experience was strictly hand driven in 1988.  I do have fairly recent Revit & Revit Structural Demo's and I think I can lay hands on something for electrical.  Doubt I could help much though as I've scarcely dabbled with the archie flavor and none with the others.
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Re: Revit Volunteers: School house Project
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2008, 10:27:41 PM »
Can Civil 3D handle IFC?
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Re: Revit Volunteers: School house Project
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2008, 10:49:08 PM »
All I know is some guys across town are trying to merge the two with very limited success.  There was a brief discussion on it HERE a few months back.
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Re: Revit Volunteers: School house Project
« Reply #28 on: February 29, 2008, 09:06:24 AM »
Yea, loaded it up this morining... demo mode... and I don't think I'd want to mess with the virtual environment.  I think Bob is a better team member suggestion, anyways.

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Re: Revit Volunteers: School house Project
« Reply #29 on: February 29, 2008, 10:08:48 AM »
I'm going to buy a book on Revit this weekend and do some crammin' to see if I can contribute anything.  If I think I can, I'll get the demo.  This sounds like it will be a corroborative effort which I think is good.  That's the point of it all, right?

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