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Next go-round :-)
« on: November 19, 2007, 09:38:54 PM »
About 12 of the Feeds I subscribe to told me something like this ...

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Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5 shipped!
Yesterday, 19 November 2007, 18:46:00 | Somasegar
I am thrilled to announce that earlier today we shipped Visual Studio 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5.
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Re: Next go-round :-)
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2007, 09:57:45 PM »
Way cool!!
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2007, 10:26:24 PM »
and don't forget ..
http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/A/E/9AE0F6CC-7032-408E-9CA7-989F9E4AF4EC/VS2008ExpressReadme.htm
2.1.1.6. Manual uninstalling of earlier versions of Visual Studio 2008.

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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2007, 12:09:53 AM »


.... I think I'll wait till after 23:00 ( my off peak download period)
there IS a couple of meg to Download :-)
... and a couple if videos I want to download as well ..
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2007, 12:15:53 AM »
Almost done installing here, I'll let you know if something breaks   8-)
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2007, 01:32:20 AM »
Thanks Kerry.

btw, this book is already out: http://tinyurl.com/33yawk
was supposed to be released in December.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2007, 01:43:19 AM »

Heh, Kelie !

looks like I should have waited ...
I might find someone to give my v 3.0 edition to.


  Christmas is coming up, isn't it ! :-)
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2007, 09:22:36 AM »
The only problem is that you cannot build ObjectARX with that version.....  :-(

per quote from kean walmsley in his site http://through-the-interface.typepad.com/
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As for AutoCAD development: there should not be a problem writing .NET applications for AutoCAD with Visual Studio 2008 - especially as it allows you to build applications for prior versions of the .NET Framework - but you should not attempt to build ObjectARX applications. The supported C++ compiler for ObjectARX in AutoCAD 2007 & 2008 is Visual Studio 2005
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Re: Next go-round :-)
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2007, 09:31:42 AM »
downloading mine now
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2007, 09:33:47 AM »
Quote from: CmdrDuh on November 20, 2007, 09:31:42 AM
downloading mine now

The Pro full version isn't posted yet ... and they have a 90 day FREE trial on that !! ( for anyone interested)
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2007, 09:38:51 AM »
Quote from: LE on November 20, 2007, 09:22:36 AM
The only problem is that you cannot build ObjectARX with that version.....  :-(

per quote from kean walmsley in his site http://through-the-interface.typepad.com/
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As for AutoCAD development: there should not be a problem writing .NET applications for AutoCAD with Visual Studio 2008 - especially as it allows you to build applications for prior versions of the .NET Framework - but you should not attempt to build ObjectARX applications. The supported C++ compiler for ObjectARX in AutoCAD 2007 & 2008 is Visual Studio 2005

yes, the VS 2008 Multi-Targeting Support looks great
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2007, 09:43:15 AM »

... and this is an interesting article ... depicts the attitudinal change.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2219167,00.asp
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2007, 09:43:26 AM »
Hi Kerry

Im just using the express editions as I haven't gotten far enough into it yet to warrent the Pro version.  Someday soon, I hope to be using C# enough that I need to buy the Pro version
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2007, 09:46:40 AM »
Quote from: LE on November 20, 2007, 09:22:36 AM
The only problem is that you cannot build ObjectARX with that version.....  :-(

As far as I know nothing much has changed on the C++ front. From what I heard, MS is waiting for the new C++0x standard. I also heard that a new killer MFC is in the works.  :kewl:
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2007, 09:47:00 AM »
Hi David,
it's a 'use it or lose it' skill I'm afraid .. I'm back where I was 12 months ago .. but I'm comitted to push on now.

It's great to hear that you're picking it up again too.

Read lots and post often :-)
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2007, 09:49:26 AM »
I bought Jerry Winters VB.Net book which Im going through now.  Using the reflector you guys talked about, I "cheat" when I have to, and convert VB code to see what Im doing wrong.  Basically I read a chapter and look at the VB code.  Then I try and re-write it in C# and test it.  If it fails badly, I open the CD and use reflector to convert it to C# so I can see where I went wrong.
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2007, 09:52:28 AM »
Quote from: Daniel on November 20, 2007, 09:46:40 AM
Quote from: LE on November 20, 2007, 09:22:36 AM
The only problem is that you cannot build ObjectARX with that version.....  :-(

As far as I know nothing much has changed on the C++ front. From what I heard, MS is waiting for the new C++0x standard. I also heard that a new killer MFC is in the works.  :kewl:

Thanks Daniel.

But is not officially supported by the adesk guys.... as per Kean comment - Will see what they end up using for A2009 [to me they will keep using the arx's] or when they do the jump for a new Compiler as they did from VS2002  -> VS2005 and previously VS6
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2007, 09:57:09 AM »
Quote from: CmdrDuh on November 20, 2007, 09:49:26 AM
Basically I read a chapter and look at the VB code.  Then I try and re-write it in C# and test it.

I think translating algorithms between different languages is a highly underrated and beneficial exercise; good on ya.
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2007, 10:00:14 AM »

heh ! That's a great idea !
I'm trying to hit the keyboard a lot more too, rather than just reading.

Just in case you don't know .. On the Debug->Windows menu there is a command to open a Locals window ( or Ctrl+D,L ) .. very handy when stepping through code.
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2007, 10:06:15 AM »
Quote from: LE on November 20, 2007, 09:52:28 AM
Quote from: Daniel on November 20, 2007, 09:46:40 AM
Quote from: LE on November 20, 2007, 09:22:36 AM
The only problem is that you cannot build ObjectARX with that version.....  :-(

As far as I know nothing much has changed on the C++ front. From what I heard, MS is waiting for the new C++0x standard. I also heard that a new killer MFC is in the works.  :kewl:

Thanks Daniel.

But is not officially supported by the adesk guys.... as per Kean comment - Will see what they end up using for A2009 [to me they will keep using the arx's] or when they do the jump for a new Compiler as they did from VS2002  -> VS2005 and previously VS6

Yeah, we will just have to get Owen to include VS2008 in his VC Hook utility
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Re: Next go-round :-)
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2007, 03:46:19 AM »
Jon Skeet has blogged regarding the
VS2005 and VS2008 co-existence ...
http://msmvps.com/blogs/jon.skeet/archive/2007/11/20/vs2005-and-vs2008-co-existence.aspx

I won't post his conclusions.



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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2007, 03:48:37 AM »
Scott Guthrie covers
Steps to Uninstall VS 2008 Beta2 before installing the VS 2008 Final Release
http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/11/20/steps-to-uninstall-vs-2008-beta2-before-installing-the-vs-2008-final-release.aspx
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2007, 07:53:02 AM »

.. and these from Daniel a little while ago
http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=18499.msg226356#msg226356
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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2007, 08:42:13 PM »
Update

 the Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition (90-day Trial) is now available.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=83C3A1EC-ED72-4A79-8961-25635DB0192B&displaylang=en

The download is an ISO image file for burning to DVD.

Download Size: 3389.6 MB
Estimated Download Time: 
:-D
Dial-up (56K) 137 hr 45 min   

(Thank goodness for cable)
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