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Lack of Revit MEP 2008 content
« on: June 06, 2007, 01:02:51 PM »
Any good links or help with Revit MEP 2008 families?

I cant believe the lack of content shipped with Revit MEP 2008. (I could almost understand the previous versions, but this is getting ridiculous--nothing changing/added-!)


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Re: Lack of Revit MEP 2008 content
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2007, 01:28:52 PM »
Be wary of any home-grown content you download from web sites.  Our reseller was warning us about that the other day.  They got a call from a client who couldn't work on a file after they downloaded something and inserted it a couple of times.

Reseller Tech Support: "Email us the file and we'll take a look at it."

Client: "I can't.  It won't go through our email server."

Reseller Tech Support: "Okay then... can you put it on a CD and then we'll look at it."

Client: "It won't fit on a CD."

Reseller Tech Support: "Then what about a DVD?"

Client: "Yeah.  It'll fit on a DVD."


*Reseller recieves DVD and......WTF??  A 4+GB RVT file??!?*


Whatever they downloaded and inserted into their model bloated the hell out of the file to the point where they couldn't use it anymore.

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Re: Lack of Revit MEP 2008 content
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2007, 01:32:44 PM »
Good tip. So i wonder, does that mean Revit has a cap on file size as well?


BTW, I have a feeling big files are going to be a `common' occurrence for a while.
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Re: Lack of Revit MEP 2008 content
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2007, 01:43:26 PM »
BTW, we should upload our content to theSwamp's block library as we build it. (Closed to public of course--This will show how this place has the best and brightest in yet another area of CAD)
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Re: Lack of Revit MEP 2008 content
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2007, 01:44:52 PM »
Another little tid bit of information that our reseller "leaked" to us is that they wouldn't recommend Revit MEP for doing any LARGE projects (not sure what their definition of "large" is but....) because after a while the RVT file starts to act up and may or may not do something that you would like it to do.

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Re: Lack of Revit MEP 2008 content
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2007, 01:46:24 PM »
BTW, we should upload our content to theSwamp's block library as we build it. (Closed to public of course--This will show how this place has the best and brightest in yet another area of CAD)
I would but I don't see us making the switch to RMEP any time soon simply because of the lack of content and I'm certainly not going to spend my time doing something that Autodesk should have already done.  Don't think the CEO would approve of that either.

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Re: Lack of Revit MEP 2008 content
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2007, 01:47:43 PM »
Another little tid bit of information that our reseller "leaked" to us is that they wouldn't recommend Revit MEP for doing any LARGE projects (not sure what their definition of "large" is but....) because after a while the RVT file starts to act up and may or may not do something that you would like it to do.

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Re: Lack of Revit MEP 2008 content
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2007, 01:50:20 PM »
Exactly!  The majority of the projects we do are "large".... Medical office buildings, casinos, schools, public facilities...  We're not in the business of doing small projects.  We're not going to model a ductwork system for Joe Blow's 1,200 SF house.

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Re: Lack of Revit MEP 2008 content
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2007, 02:00:31 PM »
Well i wasn't planning on using Revit all the way thru the projects at this time anyways i guess; I suggested to use Revit during the SD and DD phase then export to a ``schematic'' to be drawn in MEP for the CD phase.
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Re: Lack of Revit MEP 2008 content
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2007, 08:17:33 AM »
bump

I went ahead and moved this topic along with some others I found into the new Revit forum.  Mark has made this forum open to members only so you can be more confident that outside trollers will be less likely to find any content you may wish to share.  If you know of any more Revit threads you would like moved in here please let me know.
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Re: Lack of Revit MEP 2008 content
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2007, 08:58:38 AM »
Another little tid bit of information that our reseller "leaked" to us is that they wouldn't recommend Revit MEP for doing any LARGE projects (not sure what their definition of "large" is but....) because after a while the RVT file starts to act up and may or may not do something that you would like it to do.

Let me clarify this a bit. The content issue is definitely a challenge. Also, the plumbing option is very new and electrical...well it needs some serious work according to the industry pro's I listen to that are familiar with that line of work. In the end, I don't recommend it either in terms of what it can do today...but in terms of what it WILL be able to do it's a worthy product to keep an eye on.

That being said, stability of the RVT file is NOT a problem. The problem is that these files will be run on machines that are simply under powered for the task. I do agree that for the largest of projects it might not be a good idea to use it (aka 1,000,00 sf complexes) unless you break the project up into parts, but if you are doing 300,000 sf projects then Revit MEP shouldn't have any problems. In these cases you can justify the cost of the software as it's not like you are simply designing a house.  Sooooo... in short, I don't like to hear stories about the Revit model not being stable, that just isn't the case. The real issue is a) content and b) the horsepower of the machines that utilize this data.  Ultimately with good upfront data management, good computers, and progressive planning and organization you can indeed use this software with large projects and make solid profit with it... it's just a matter of if this will suit the needs of your company and the deliverable they need to produce today. 

Would I buy it today? No, I'd likely go with ABS (AutoCAD MEP) as it has a better content selection and likely will work better with your current workflow. Would I buy Revit MEP three years from now? Absolutely.  What would I buy if I was planning to use this today AND long term?  That is one difficult business decision and would require a sit down discussion to determine your current needs, deliverables, and work flow processes.
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