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Dinosaur

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2007, 01:05:30 PM »
just in case there was any doubt, once again it appears you can not take drawings from the new version to the previous and do any work.  I opened up mjfarrell's 2008 drawing in 2007 and could do nothing to C3D objects but view them.  Toolspace wouldn't even come up so be prepared to make a full commitment if you decide to jump.

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2007, 01:38:50 PM »
just in case there was any doubt, once again it appears you can not take drawings from the new version to the previous and do any work.  I opened up mjfarrell's 2008 drawing in 2007 and could do nothing to C3D objects but view them.  Toolspace wouldn't even come up so be prepared to make a full commitment if you decide to jump.

That just doesn't make sense! Is it a bug or .... something else?
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Dinosaur

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2007, 01:41:08 PM »
No bug, just the way it is.  Even a 2007 drawing pulled up and saved by 2008 changes the aec objects to 2008 vintage, forever lost to 2007.

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2007, 01:45:36 PM »
oh boy ..... *sigh*

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Dinosaur

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2007, 01:48:50 PM »
that would be the one . . . no surprise though, basically the same thing every time since the upgrade from 2005 to 2006.

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2007, 03:46:53 PM »
Wow ... make sure you have plenty of time before you start the installation process!


BTW ... new installation app, don't like it. Just more smoke and mirrors in my opinion.
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Dinosaur

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2007, 03:55:54 PM »
there is a fix for that problem . . . don't recall off hand but check the newsgroup.

Dinosaur

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2007, 04:02:15 PM »
there is a fix for that problem . . . don't recall off hand but check the newsgroup.

does this help?

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The new installer for these products incorrectly copies the data from the installation media to the destination folder multiple times, increasing the deployment creation time considerably.

To avoid this issue, it is strongly recommended that you copy the installation files to a local drive first and then run the installer on the local drive to create the deployment.

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2007, 04:17:47 PM »
I think that problem is only with the creation of a network deployment. Single installs aren't that bad....15 minutes, or so.

sinc

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2007, 05:33:39 PM »
No bug, just the way it is.  Even a 2007 drawing pulled up and saved by 2008 changes the aec objects to 2008 vintage, forever lost to 2007.

Yup, we are beginning to shudder at the thought of finally needing to send data to someone else who is using C3D, but they are using the C3D 2007 version...   :-(

I guess the thinking at Autodesk is that, at least for the forseeable future, you MUST be on subscription if you buy C3D, and you MUST stay up-to-date, installing new versions as they come out.  Otherwise, you and everyone you work with will be miserable.

jpostlewait

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2007, 08:12:52 PM »
sinc as usual you make a good point.
So far the version business hasn't effected us so much but in your shoes as having to submit topo's, plats, etc. to other companies that could be a big deal.
We get involved in many Team projects and that is always a problem.
Right now we are exporting C3D files out to acad 2004 format to dumb everything down so our styles don't get transferred.
We are looking at going the DWF route in order to get past that.
In your shoes as contracted to deliver electronic files to a design engineering firm, I don't know what you do.
Interoperability of the product line has been largely ignored by ADesk.

sinc

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2007, 10:27:23 AM »
You wouldn't beleive the hassle we've been having.

Just recently, we had to submit a design survey to a team that was using Acad 2002 with Eaglepoint.  That was a nightmare.  According to them, Eaglepoint does not do LandXML, and for some unknown reason C3D flattens all C3D objects to Z=0 when they are exported to Autocad.  This means that they couldn't even explode objects to get elevated contours and TIN lines after we converted it to Autocad 2000 format.

Finally, I ended up importing the XML into Land Desktop, and then created 3D-Lines of the surface in Land Desktop.  At this point, I noticed that the XML Export of the surface from C3D DID NOT include the surface boundary...   :-o  So I had to go back to C3D, pull the boundary out of there, and block it into Land Desktop.  I added the boundary to the surface and reimported the 3D-Lines to give him a surface with clean edges, then converted the DWG to 2000 format.  That worked.

What a hassle.  Some people around our office are tempted to completely drop Autodesk because they don't seem to realize that WE NEED TO SHARE DATA WITH OTHERS!!!!!  We can't keep dealing with this conversion hassle.  If it weren't for the power of C3D, Autodesk would have already been dropped.  I hope Autodesk realizes what a thin line they are walking.

Cannon

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2007, 01:53:05 PM »
BTW, if you'll go into an ISO view before you do the export, the objects (contours, etc.) will have a Z elevation.

 :mrgreen:

Edit: Now that you're on 2008, why wouldn't you just export data from surface anyway? At least for that stuff....

sinc

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2007, 05:51:28 PM »
ISO view, huh?  Really?  Thanks.  And they say Autodesk software isn't intuitive...   :roll:

This all happened a couple of days before 2008 arrived.

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Re: 2008 - How's it hangin'?
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2007, 09:30:31 AM »
The improvements to the points alone is worth the upgrade ... IMO anyway. :-)
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