Topic: (Microstation) Bring to front/send to back

[kindra]

Is there a similar command to this in MicroStation? All of my screened reference elements are showing up on top of the leaders and notes in the sheet file. This looks really crappy. Is there any way to send the reference elements to the back so that the other stuff shows up neater?

[Arizona]

In Microstation XM...

(2D models only) Element Priority is a display only setting that determines the order in which elements are displayed in a view. Essentially, this display priority setting adds a “calculated Z” value for to 2D co-planar elements, similar to the Z value in 3D models. In 3D models, elements closer to the eye are always displayed in front of elements further from the eye so display priority is not necessary.

In a 2D model, you can assign an active element priority, which sets the display priority value for new elements that you place in the model. The elements assigned the highest element priority value are displayed in the front, while the elements assigned the lowest values are displayed at the back.

In 2D models, you can assign Display Priority values to references, levels, and to individual elements. The hierarchy for Display Priority is Reference : Level : Element. That is:

All elements in a reference with a higher Reference Display Priority will appear in front of all elements from references with a lower value.

Within a single model, or from references with the same reference display priority, elements on levels with higher Level Display Priority will appear in front of those with a lower value.
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[kindra]

Crap - I'm in version 8. Thanks anyway, AZ. Any other thoughts?

[Arizona]

As far as I can tell this capability is new with XM.
I searched the discussion groups, knowledge base and technotes with no luck....
of course that is somewhat common.

[Greg B]

If I may make a suggestion.

In DataCAD to get certain items to show up behind others, it is dependent on the layer order.  Stuff located on layers at the top of the menu are rendered first and everything after that will then start displaying on top.  This is most helpful to know when working with bitmaps on a drawing.

It is something you can check with Microstation, but I have a feeling in this case it is DataCAD specific.

[Krushert]

Trick that work in Autocad before draw order.  Don't know if it will work for MickyStation

Shut off and/or freeze the stuff that you want sent to the back and then Wblock out (forgot the command for Micky) and delete those objects from the current drawing.  Turn on and/or thaw the objects you turn off.  Insert the stuff that you wblock out and it will (should) be on top of the stuff that you turned off.  Don't forget to explode the Wblock.

Clunky I know but it work when there was no draw order.

[pmvliet]

There is a way to do this in V8 or even with J...
I just can't remember what it is at this moment...

Let me think...

Pieter

[32599]

Use the element selector tool and select all of the elements that you want to display "on top". Then go to the edit pull down and click on "Bring to Front". Done. 

[kindra]

Thanks for all of your advice, but unfortunately none of them is working. This project has now already went out, but it's driving me crazy and I'm determined to figure out how to do this - there's got to be a way. Will post if I find anything.

I will beat MicroStation into submission!

[Arizona]

I will beat MicroStation into submission!

I love your attitude!

[deegeecees]

If you stare at the objects you want covered long enough, they'll get embarassed, and slink away to the back  :whistle:

[kindra]

If you stare at the objects you want covered long enough, they'll get embarassed, and slink away to the back  :whistle:

Oh goodie! And being a mom, I've got the staredown pretty much mastered 

[kindra]

PS - Haven't heard from you in awhile - glad to have you back, DCGs. And still as smart-aleck as ever

[deegeecees]

PS - Haven't heard from you in awhile - glad to have you back, DCGs. And still as smart-aleck as ever

Thanks Kindra, glad to be here, proclaiming smart-aleckiness as my M.O. 

[pmvliet]

Thanks for all of your advice, but unfortunately none of them is working.

Do you use a pen table to plot your drawings?
How do you achieve the screening of your reference files?

Pieter

[Maverick®]

smart-aleckiness as my M.O. 

*wringing hands*  Soon our kind will RULE THE SWAMP!  Mwahahahahaha!

[kindra]

I do use a pentable - I use color 252 to screen.

[kindra]

I freakin' GOT IT!

If the images that need to be sent to the back are in a reference file, go to Reference Manager. Under the Settings pull-down, go to Update Sequence. Send the current dgn file to the bottom of the list. For some crazy reason, this causes the notes and dims residing in the file to both display and plot OVER the reference images. Weird.

Take that, MicroStation!

[Mark]

Score: Kindra 1  MicroStation 0

[pmvliet]

Woo Hoo!!

Pieter

[kindra]

Thanks guys! Pathetically enough, I'm still grinning about that one

[Greg B]

Thanks guys! Pathetically enough, I'm still grinning about that one

Ah, but it's a pretty grin.

[Krushert]

Thanks guys! Pathetically enough, I'm still grinning about that one

Ah, but it's a pretty grin.

Down Boy Down.

Score: Kindra 1  MicroStation 0

Yeah but how many Rounds did they go?  I never saw the round sign that girl was holding.   

[Maverick®]

  I never saw the round sign that girl was holding.   

That's 'cause it was a rectangle

[Arizona]

Thanks guys! Pathetically enough, I'm still grinning about that one

Ah, but it's a pretty grin.

Flirting will get you everywhere nowhere somewhere

[Krushert]

  I never saw the round sign that girl was holding.   

That's 'cause it was a rectangle

It was? when did they change that? 

[mjfarrell]

I think the answer is best explained here:

http://www.la-solutions.co.uk/content/ElementDisplayOrder.htm

[kindra]

Thanks guys! Pathetically enough, I'm still grinning about that one

Ah, but it's a pretty grin.

Flirting will get you everywhere nowhere somewhere

 

[CADaver]

I never saw the round sign that girl was holding.

She had a sign?

[Maverick®]

Flirting will get you everywhere nowhere somewhere

  Sometimes, most times, never, possibly,