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Nicefro

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ADT 2D ELEVATIONS EXPERTS REQUIRED!!!
« on: October 31, 2006, 02:18:44 PM »
Hokey folks This is the reason I'm here,

the very subject that justified a good couple hours of Autodesk user group browsing and you guys have won.

2D ELEVATIONS

I've been baking my noodle with this baby for the last 72 hours straight and I'm pretty chuffed with what i've got so far.
The icing on the cake would be to find a way so that the facets of the curved walls were not displayed when generating the 2d elevation and that the horizontal lines representing the top and bottom of the wall in each xref'd level were also not displayed.

cos otherwise i'm gonna hafta do a lotta linework editing :ugly:

see below for 2d elevation of the model

Any help on this would be greatly greatly appreciated. :-D

Cheers

N
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Re: ADT 2D ELEVATIONS EXPERTS REQUIRED!!!
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2006, 02:48:49 PM »
Can you turn off those layers on the xref'd floors that are making those lines?

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Re: ADT 2D ELEVATIONS EXPERTS REQUIRED!!!
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2006, 03:14:15 PM »
unfortunately not.  that i'm aware of at least.

The model consists of a variety of AEC objects; walls, window assemblies, railings and although the display properties of each of these include layer settings none are as specific  to the top of a wall say or how the facets of a 3d curved wall display.

I'm hoping the answer lies in some acad variable unknown to myself or in the design rules for 2d elevation styles.  :?

will keep on trucking in the meantime

N


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Re: ADT 2D ELEVATIONS EXPERTS REQUIRED!!!
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2006, 03:20:35 PM »
The icing on the cake would be to find a way so that the facets of the curved walls were not displayed when generating the 2d elevation and that the horizontal lines

Are this "facets of a curved wall" 3D objects?
If so in paperspace, select viewport =>rt click=>shade plot=>hidden (maybe ?)

What version are you using?
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Re: ADT 2D ELEVATIONS EXPERTS REQUIRED!!!
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2006, 03:44:39 PM »
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Can you turn off those layers on the xref'd floors that are making those lines?
The lines that are shown are the top/bottom of the wall - correct?  If so, the section cut sees them as an edge and therefore adds the line to the elevation.

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If so in paperspace, select viewport =>rt click=>shade plot=>hidden (maybe ?)
Nah.... that won't work because the elevation is basically a 2D block.

I don't think there's an answer for this, unless like he said, there's some hidden variable, but I don't see anything in ADT 2005.

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Re: ADT 2D ELEVATIONS EXPERTS REQUIRED!!!
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2006, 03:45:18 PM »
Do you have those xref's in there to complete the elevation?  Do they HAVE to be in there?

Can you turn off the floor and wall layers, but keep other stuff on?

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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2006, 04:03:56 PM »
I think I've found the answer to your prayers!! :-)

Do you have Merge Common Materials turned on??!??

You'll have to go into each xref and modify the wall style, then re-cut your section/elevation and that should eliminate the lines from the tops and bottoms of the walls in your elevation view.

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Re: ADT 2D ELEVATIONS EXPERTS REQUIRED!!!
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2006, 06:02:46 PM »
I think I've found the answer to your prayers!! :-)

Do you have Merge Common Materials turned on??!??

Man, I wish I saw this a while ago...I knew that...

I like being the first to answer a question...it brings meaning to my life...

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Re: ADT 2D ELEVATIONS EXPERTS REQUIRED!!!
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2006, 06:26:19 PM »
I like being the first to answer a question...it brings meaning to my life...

 :-D

Well guess by those standards I'm in sad shape

Well nicefro, did it work, we're all dying out here   :-)
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Re: ADT 2D ELEVATIONS EXPERTS REQUIRED!!!
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2006, 08:12:24 AM »
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Well nicefro, did it work, we're all dying out here   :-)

Well....???   We're waiting....!!

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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2006, 03:11:20 PM »
First off - sorry sorry - I went home leaving my box on to refresh all elevations in the project (best done over night) I didn't realise  i was still logged on.  Thats what 8 hours sleep over 3 nights does to ya!!

Thanks for all the replies - I knew this was gonna be a good forum.

SO.....after a 5 hour design team meeting (nice) in Glasgow (76 mi. away - nice nice) without the elevations (you get the picture) I return to the job.....

Matt - you are right about the merge common materials (I could only find a check box in the matterial definitions display properties dialogue box) and it was checked already  :x

checked the definitions in all xrefs and they were all there.

reloaded all xrefs and regenerated all elevations but no joy.

Have opted for disguising the unwanted horizontal lines by plastering some hefty FFL lines atop and linework editing the curved facade.

ADT 2D ELEVATIONS may have won the battle this time but it aint won the war!!!   :pissed:

OR i'm still doing something wrong  :cry:- Dom did you say you've managed to get these elevations to work before?

bytw what time is for you guys?  Here in scotland it's 8.10pm I've never managed to get the hang of these international forums.


Cheers

N

p.s will post some of the results if anyone is interestedN

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Re: ADT 2D ELEVATIONS EXPERTS REQUIRED!!!
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2006, 03:14:29 PM »
International?

Huh...never thought of it that way.

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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2006, 03:20:42 PM »
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Matt - you are right about the merge common materials (I could only find a check box in the matterial definitions display properties dialogue box) and it was checked already  :x
Well that sucks.  Hmmmm.... Is there a wall style over-ride??  Not sure if you can do it for that; just throwing out an idea.  I'll keep diggin'.  If you find something before I do, please post what you found.

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bytw what time is for you guys?
3:20 PM

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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2006, 03:34:28 PM »
International?

By the wonders of Google Earth I see you are roughly 40 mi. south of Minneapolis.  I'm on the east coast of Central Scotland, UK.

Nice to meet you

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oops I seem to have all of my reply in your quote.  Any idea how I keep my reply in the white background and your quote in the blue?

I'm a total newbie when it comes to forums

<edit>  fixed quote tags for ya ..... Mav
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Re: ADT 2D ELEVATIONS EXPERTS REQUIRED!!!
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2006, 03:41:50 PM »
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Matt - you are right about the merge common materials (I could only find a check box in the matterial definitions display properties dialogue box) and it was checked already  :x
Well that sucks.  Hmmmm.... Is there a wall style over-ride??  Not sure if you can do it for that; just throwing out an idea.  I'll keep diggin'.  If you find something before I do, please post what you found.

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bytw what time is for you guys?
3:20 PM

Thanks for the input Matt!!  will definitely keep you posted (no pun intended) 

Am just back from the East Coast - I spent a week in NYC for my 30th Pretty mind blowing actually :laugh:

Tried to find North Central on google earth and it took me to Hartford, CT.  Anywhere near you?

Cheers

N

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Re: ADT 2D ELEVATIONS EXPERTS REQUIRED!!!
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2006, 03:47:51 PM »
SH*ezer :realmad:

thats what I get for spending too much time on posting

just returned to a FATAL ERROR!!!

grrrrrrrr

you'd figure an dell inspiron 9100 pentium 4 3GHz and a gig of ram would handle this, but it is slooooooooooooow

what do you guys run on? apart from black coffee and chocolate of course

N
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Re: ADT 2D ELEVATIONS EXPERTS REQUIRED!!!
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2006, 03:55:57 PM »
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Tried to find North Central on google earth and it took me to Hartford, CT.  Anywhere near you?

Yeah... I know where Hartford is.