Author Topic: AutoCAD workstation (Read 13601 times)

Keith™ · « **on:** April 13, 2004, 04:00:00 PM »

I am looking for some guidance in procurement of new computer systems for my office. What I am looking for are systems that are in the $2000 range with the following minimum specs:

Intel based 3.0Ghz
800Mhz FSB
512 DDR 400
128M Video
80gb+ SCSI HD
100mbs LAN

Also what specs can you give me on 21" LCD TFT flat panel monitors?

Ultimately I would like these to be from a national company that I can get pissed at when they have problems.

I would welcome any online reviews as well.

Thanks

pmvliet · « **Reply #1 on:** April 19, 2004, 07:20:53 PM »

Keith,

depending on how many system's you need to buy. Take a look at Dell.
Yeah i know everyone and their brother are getting them.
If you are looking for one or two, Dell has their refurbished system's.
Each one is unique with OS and ram etc. So if you wanted 30 of them it would take a while to sift them out.

I picked up a dual xeon @ 2.4Ghz and 1GB of Ram.
Got a crappy 32MB video card but I will be ordering a replacement
one day. Anyways I picked the system up for about half of what it would
have been if I ordered it new and it still has the full warranty etc.

pieter

Keith™ · « **Reply #2 on:** April 19, 2004, 08:08:07 PM »

I will be needing at least 2 ... and someone with much deeper pockets will be footing the bill

I wish someone could give me some spec's on the tft monitors...anyone?

Dent Cermak · « **Reply #3 on:** April 19, 2004, 08:38:36 PM »

I'd rather have a good 19" monitor and put the extra money in more dram, or a cd burner for file transfer.

Craig · « **Reply #4 on:** April 19, 2004, 10:16:39 PM »

Keith, see if this helps you out some
http://www.modthebox.com/review244_1.shtml

Keith™ · « **Reply #5 on:** April 19, 2004, 10:41:57 PM »

Quote from: Dent Cermak

I'd rather have a good 19" monitor and put the extra money in more dram, or a cd burner for file transfer.

DVD+RW is a given .... and the memory is a pittance in the overall scheme of things.. I can get 512mb DDR400 for around $75 .... the 21" monitor IS NOT NEGOTIABLE

hyposmurf · « **Reply #6 on:** April 20, 2004, 07:49:48 AM »

After seeing T Bears 21" with the amount of room he had for buttons,I'm quite envious and now contentplating buying one even if I have to make do with a refurbished CRT.

ronjonp · « **Reply #7 on:** April 20, 2004, 10:38:51 AM »

Keith,

Take a look here:

http://www.doubleberger.com/Gaming-PCs/Desktop-Computers/ITDH24-TS04%20P/HP-XW4100-TigerStation-/-Pentium-2.8GHz-/-512MB-ECC-DDR400-/-NVIDIA-380XGL-/-40GB-7200RPM-/-DVD-RW-/-XP-Professional-/-Gaming-PC.htm

I have been happy with this workstation and the price is nice......a little extra cash for a kick ass display.

Ron

pmvliet · « **Reply #8 on:** April 20, 2004, 05:21:54 PM »

We are also looking at getting some flat panel monitors from Dell as well.
They seem pretty ok and takes out the middleman if it does fail.
IIRC they have a 22" which is a 21" diagonal(almost square) flat panel.
I think the price was under $1,000.00 they were either running or are running a special with buy 3 and get the fourth free...

Pieter

Keith™ · « **Reply #9 on:** April 20, 2004, 05:56:06 PM »

Quote from: pmvliet

We are also looking at getting some flat panel monitors from Dell as well.
They seem pretty ok and takes out the middleman if it does fail.
IIRC they have a 22" which is a 21" diagonal(almost square) flat panel.
I think the price was under $1,000.00 they were either running or are running a special with buy 3 and get the fourth free...

Pieter

Do you have a link? if they are cloe to what I am looking for I might consider buying 3

Keith™ · « **Reply #10 on:** April 20, 2004, 06:26:33 PM »

Quote from: ronjonp

Keith,

Take a look here:

http://www.doubleberger.com/Gaming-PCs/Desktop-Computers/ITDH24-TS04%20P/HP-XW4100-TigerStation-/-Pentium-2.8GHz-/-512MB-ECC-DDR400-/-NVIDIA-380XGL-/-40GB-7200RPM-/-DVD-RW-/-XP-Professional-/-Gaming-PC.htm

I have been happy with this workstation and the price is nice......a little extra cash for a kick ass display.

Ron

Pretty good.. I wonder what the price increase would be for scsi and upgrade to 80gb ...

ronjonp · « **Reply #11 on:** April 21, 2004, 11:54:13 AM »

It's another $150 for 80 gig drive and 1 gig of Ram. scsi drive probably 4-500 add.

http://www.the-best-in-town.com/Gaming-PCs/Desktop-Computers/ITDH24-TS06%20P/HP-XW4100-TigerStation-/-Pentium-2.8GHz-/-1GB-DDR400-/-80GB-7200RPM-/-DVD-RW-/-XP-Professional-/-Gaming-PC.htm

pmvliet · « **Reply #12 on:** April 21, 2004, 12:19:08 PM »

wasn't a 22"
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?category_id=5194&k=&mnf=&brandid=&prst=&prEnd=&sku=320-1578&mnfsku=&SearchType=&Page=productlisting.aspx&spagenum=1&Pageb4Search=&InStock=&items_per_page=25&orderby=&mnfname=&brand=&SubmitSearch=&image_flag=True&refurbished=&c=us&l=en&cs=19&iCompatid=

I don't see the buy 3 get one free anmore ;o(

Mark · « **Reply #13 on:** April 21, 2004, 12:45:18 PM »

- Keith
Do you really need an 80GB drive? Aren't you attached to a server. The price of an 80gb scsi drive is way up there!

Keith™ · « **Reply #14 on:** April 21, 2004, 01:52:40 PM »

Actually ... our server is merely another workstation that is not being used by a person.

I got a pretty good quote today...

2.8Ghz Xeon
1GB DDR
NVidia Quadro4 980XGL
72GB SCSI
10/100/1000 ethernet
XP Pro

$2463.00

Add to that possibly dual processors +$300
and
a 23" TFT LCD Flat panel DVI monitor +$1699

Puts me at $4462 X 2

or

$8924.00

ronjonp · « **Reply #15 on:** April 21, 2004, 02:10:05 PM »

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Puts me at $4462 X 2

Thats good?

Sounds like a $h|+e load of money to me.

Keith™ · « **Reply #16 on:** April 21, 2004, 02:22:21 PM »

Well, I could drop a few things that I don't absolutely have to have... such as dual Xeon processors and SCSI ... then I am at:

2.8 P4
1GB DDR
80GB ATA100
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 280
10/100/1000 ethernet
XP Pro

Now I am at a mere $1243.00
plus a 21" crt monitor $499.00

for a total of $1742 x 2

or $3484.00

but hell as long as the boss is buying why not get the goods...

ronjonp · « **Reply #17 on:** April 21, 2004, 06:47:04 PM »

Quote

but hell as long as the boss is buying why not get the goods...

INDEED!

CAB · « **Reply #18 on:** April 21, 2004, 09:44:27 PM »

Quote from: Keith

plus a 21" crt monitor $499.00

What monitor are you looking at?
As I am in the market too.

CAB

Kerry · « **Reply #19 on:** April 21, 2004, 10:01:16 PM »

Twist his arm for dual monitors .. or break it if necessary

Slim© · « **Reply #20 on:** April 21, 2004, 10:47:40 PM »

I'm running this:

Dual Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz, 1.00GB RAM, WinXP, Dual 19" Monitors

When I accepted the job they asked what I wanted, I got it.

Keith™ · « **Reply #21 on:** April 22, 2004, 07:35:22 AM »

CAB to answer your question ... I am looking really hard at a 23" TFT LCD DVI flat panel from HP but at $1699 I am wondering if I will get it...

AOC makes pretty decent flan screen CRT monitors and I can get a 21 for around $500 but I really really want that 23" flat panel....

Oh and did I say that I really really want a flat panel ?

hendie · « **Reply #22 on:** April 22, 2004, 08:06:47 AM »

Quote from: Keith

...and I can get a 21 for around $500 but I really really want that 23" flat panel....

in that case, why not go for 3 x 21" @ $500 ~ you get SURROUND VISION !!!

CAB · « **Reply #23 on:** April 22, 2004, 08:33:22 AM »

Quote from: hendie

in that case, why not go for 3 x 21" @ $500 ~ you get SURROUND VISION !!!

I missed that link, which one is it? Or were you talking about crt's.

I'd love an LCD but i'm looking in the 500 - 800 dollar range..
I hate the idea fo having a 21" monolith on my desk but $1600 is
too much for me when $500 may get the job done.

CAB

Keith™ · « **Reply #24 on:** April 22, 2004, 12:56:22 PM »

No link those would be CRT.... the best quotes for flat panel so far are ...

$339 15"
$469 17"
$999 19"
$1699 23"

I am still looking though...

ronjonp · « **Reply #25 on:** April 22, 2004, 02:06:42 PM »

Check these out Keith:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=1410

Ron

VerticalMojo · « **Reply #26 on:** April 22, 2004, 03:05:23 PM »

DELL DELL DELL...... I live right across the street from one of the main DELL buildings (huge suckers). Nothing but "DELL" where I live, you cant go 2 miles without seeing a DELL building! I think Im getting DELLerious......

Keith™ · « **Reply #27 on:** April 22, 2004, 04:00:55 PM »

Well you must be living in DELL

t-bear · « **Reply #28 on:** April 22, 2004, 05:19:31 PM »

It's made an inDELLible impression on me.....

CAB · « **Reply #29 on:** April 27, 2004, 07:20:28 PM »

Keith what do you think about this monitor?
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=1022193/zip_code=33511/

Keith™ · « **Reply #30 on:** April 27, 2004, 09:49:36 PM »

It looks like a pretty good CRT monitor... I am not familiar with that particular brand of monitor, but if it performs at the level shown it would be a decent choice for a CRT.

In CAD I always try to find at least a .22 or lower for dot pitch and the resolution and refresh rate is also key. You may find refresh rates as low as 60Hz on some higher resolution monitors and that simply is not good enough for me. I like the 75Hz refresh rate at max resolution, but it would be great to find something pushing 85Hz or even 100Hz now that would be sweet....

The price tag is also good, I have seen less expensive monitors with a tradeoff of dot pitch and/or max resolution. Just to put it in perspective, if I can save 15% on a monitor by sacrificing a higher resolution and limiting myself to say 1600X1200 and get a refresh rate of 100Hz or even as high as 130Hz I would do it in a minute...
It looks like a good buy though...
Cab have you tried looking at the marketpro computer shows web site and finding out when the computer shows are near you and see if you can find something there...

CAB · « **Reply #31 on:** April 27, 2004, 10:04:16 PM »

Here are the refresh rates

1920x1440 @80Hz
1800x1440 @80Hz
1856x1392 @82Hz
1792x1344 @85Hz
1600x1200 @95Hz
1280x1024 @110Hz
1152x864 @129Hz
1024x768 @144Hz
800x600 @160Hz
640x480 @160Hz

specs

I don't think i can wait much longer, i got the itch & i'm using a 15".

I was thinking i would use 1280x1024
I am using 1024x768 now.

Keith™ · « **Reply #32 on:** April 27, 2004, 10:07:23 PM »

Poor bastard... go get it....damn ... I havent used a 15" in nearly 3 years....

JohnK · « **Reply #33 on:** April 27, 2004, 10:26:01 PM »

I got a 19" flat panel mon here at home and i love it. (More then i need ...Its great!)

I got a Mitsub. LCD dimond point -I cant remeber the model number- down stairs and i would recomend that one to everyone. The pic is crystal clear. It ran me about 700 and its got a digital cable hookup. (Damn those cables are expensive ..i dont have one of those.

)

So i would say a 19 is fine.

Dent Cermak · « **Reply #34 on:** May 18, 2004, 12:22:06 PM »

Well, the new pooter arrived. Dell Precision 360 Minitower, 3.00GHZ P4, 512MB, 400Mhz SDRAM (little small, but ok), 21 INCH MONITOR, nVidia QuadroFX500, 128MB graphics card, 40GB hard Drive, 3.5" floppy (don't say it !) 48x/32x/48x CDRW, Iomega ZIP drive, Optical mouse, Windows XP Pro, Dell A425 speakers, MS Office Pro XP, Adobe Acrobat 6 standard and a performance USB Keyboard.
I really don't want to give up my amber monitors, but I guess I'll get used to the 21" MONITOR.

Slim© · « **Reply #35 on:** May 18, 2004, 12:34:07 PM »

Most things about you, Dent are FLOPPY!

Just couldn't resist!

Keith™ · « **Reply #36 on:** May 18, 2004, 05:23:42 PM »

Quote from: Dent Cermak

Well, the new pooter arrived. Dell Precision 360 Minitower, 3.00GHZ P4, 512MB, 400Mhz SDRAM (little small, but ok), 21 INCH MONITOR, nVidia QuadroFX500, 128MB graphics card, 40GB hard Drive, 3.5" floppy (don't say it !) 48x/32x/48x CDRW, Iomega ZIP drive, Optical mouse, Windows XP Pro, Dell A425 speakers, MS Office Pro XP, Adobe Acrobat 6 standard and a performance USB Keyboard.
I really don't want to give up my amber monitors, but I guess I'll get used to the 21" MONITOR.

Damn Dent...that is almost the EXACT system I got... 'ceptin I got Dual 2.8Ghz 80GB HD.... I also got a 20" flat panel LCD TFT Monitor with DVI and a dual head video card....

Oh and that monitor is SWEET!!!

Dent Cermak · « **Reply #37 on:** May 18, 2004, 06:52:25 PM »

What's killing me is that I have 3 major projects going. All due either this week or next. SO, Black Beauty sits there in the box, quietly calling to me and I don't have time to do anything about it. I mean, I haven't had time to even open the stupid box!! It's like adding an extra week or two between Christnas Eve and Christmas !! I can't stand it!!!

Keith™ · « **Reply #38 on:** May 18, 2004, 08:06:13 PM »

poor bastard

Slim© · « **Reply #39 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:21:36 PM »

Work a litte OT

Dent Cermak · « **Reply #40 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:29:01 PM »

What do you think I'm doin' rat now ??

Keith™ · « **Reply #41 on:** May 19, 2004, 07:53:58 AM »

poor bastard

Dent Cermak · « **Reply #42 on:** May 19, 2004, 10:40:37 AM »

it's still in the box. :horror:

t-bear · « **Reply #43 on:** May 19, 2004, 01:52:01 PM »

Tell you what...as a favor to you (and I wouldn't do this for just ANYbody) I'll come down and get the darned thing....take it off your hands. That way you won't be suffering all these pangs of anxiety, looking at that nasty little monster sitting there in the corner......
Now THAT'S what friends do for friends!

Dent Cermak · « **Reply #44 on:** May 19, 2004, 05:09:46 PM »

uh, screw you, friend

Keith™ · « **Reply #45 on:** May 19, 2004, 06:20:57 PM »

Hmmm.. Dent exhibits a little bit of tendencies the military didn't know about??

Dent Cermak · « **Reply #46 on:** May 19, 2004, 07:45:15 PM »

don't ask, don't tell ?/

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Author Topic: AutoCAD workstation (Read 13601 times)

pmvliet

Dent Cermak

Craig

hyposmurf

pmvliet

pmvliet

hendie

VerticalMojo

t-bear

Dent Cermak

Dent Cermak

Dent Cermak

Dent Cermak

t-bear

Dent Cermak

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