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Title: Top Daug Contest
Post by: whdjr on December 20, 2005, 01:46:23 PM
Here (http://topdaug.cadlearning.com/login/index.php) is a link to the Top Daug contest if you guys want to try it out.

Post your scores after you take the test.

And DON'T CHEAT!
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: whdjr on December 20, 2005, 01:47:23 PM
I only had time to answer 25 of 45 and I only got 16 of 25 right.   :x

I suck!
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Lin-Z on December 20, 2005, 01:57:58 PM
Started on: Tuesday, 20 December 2005, 01:49 PM
Completed on: Tuesday, 20 December 2005, 01:57 PM
Time taken: 7 mins 35 secs
Raw score: 26/45 (58 %)
Grade: 26 out of a maximum of 45
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: David Hall on December 20, 2005, 01:59:46 PM
Started on:   Tuesday, 20 December 2005, 01:49 PM
Completed on:   Tuesday, 20 December 2005, 01:57 PM
Time taken:   8 mins 12 secs
Raw score:   33/45 (73 %)
Grade:   33 out of a maximum of 45
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: ronjonp on December 20, 2005, 03:52:34 PM
Started on:   Tuesday, 20 December 2005, 03:39 PM
Completed on:   Tuesday, 20 December 2005, 03:49 PM
Time taken:   10 mins 7 secs
Raw score:   29/45 (64 %)
Grade:   29 out of a maximum of 45
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: uncoolperson on December 20, 2005, 04:19:57 PM
Started on: Tuesday, 20 December 2005, 04:07 PM
Completed on: Tuesday, 20 December 2005, 04:17 PM
Time taken: 10 mins 3 secs
Raw score: 25/45 (56 %)
Grade: 25 out of a maximum of 45

it didn't record my last click... which was correct, should be 26/45

which still sucks
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Kate M on December 20, 2005, 05:07:35 PM
I took it at AU -- got 32/45 in something like 5 minutes..

And FYI, the highest score at AU was 36; the lowest in the top 10 was 33. So don't feel bad about a score in the 20's!
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: pmvliet on December 21, 2005, 02:04:05 PM
Kate beat me again!

I had a 31 at AU.... I challenged people in my office to take it and if they got higher then me I'd take them to lunch.
No one wants to even take it....

Pieter
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: nivuahc on December 21, 2005, 02:43:38 PM
Started on:   Wednesday, 21 December 2005, 02:28 PM
Completed on:   Wednesday, 21 December 2005, 02:38 PM
Time taken:   10 mins 2 secs
Raw score:   32/45 (71 %)
Grade:   32 out of a maximum of 45
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: nivuahc on December 21, 2005, 03:04:17 PM
I have issues with this one:

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To draw a line a length of 8 feet, 4 5/8 inches in the 12 o’clock direction from the last point selected, enter:

Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Greg B on December 21, 2005, 03:09:09 PM
I have issues with this one:

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To draw a line a length of 8 feet, 4 5/8 inches in the 12 o’clock direction from the last point selected, enter:



Oh that's easy...


Select Point
Enter 8.4.5.8 <enter>
Enter 90 <enter>


Ta-Da
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: David Hall on December 21, 2005, 03:10:45 PM
I have issues with this one:

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To draw a line a length of 8 feet, 4 5/8 inches in the 12 o’clock direction from the last point selected, enter:


Me to.  seems like there is something missing there
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: M-dub on December 21, 2005, 03:18:29 PM
I have issues with this one:

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To draw a line a length of 8 feet, 4 5/8 inches in the 12 o’clock direction from the last point selected, enter:



Oh that's easy...


Select Point
Enter 8.4.5.8 <enter>
Enter 90 <enter>


Ta-Da

Thanks Mr. DataCAD!  :evil:
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: nivuahc on December 21, 2005, 03:30:06 PM
That's just the thing, none of the available choices had anything about the angle so I chose "none of the above". According to the test, this is the right answer:
Quote
@8'4-5/8

I won't even get into the issue of what units need to be set in order for that to even be close but let's test that theory in AutoCAD 2002
Code: [Select]
Command: l
Specify first point:
Specify next point or [Undo]: @8'4-5/8
Point or option keyword required.
Specify next point or [Undo]: *Cancel*

How about 2006?
Code: [Select]
Command: l
LINE Specify first point:
Specify next point or [Undo]: @8'4-5/8
Point or option keyword required.
Specify next point or [Undo]: *Cancel*
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: whdjr on December 21, 2005, 03:31:21 PM
I had issues with that one too.  It doesn't include direction in the answer when it was part of the question.
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: David Hall on December 21, 2005, 03:32:01 PM
the only option I could think of was "Point your mouse at 12, and type 8'4-5/8 <enter>
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: nivuahc on December 21, 2005, 03:33:39 PM
Yes, but even then, @8'4-5/8 wouldn't work so it would still be wrong, according to the test. And the question didn't say "while pointing your mouse in the 12 o'clock direction..." so I demand to have my score changed to 33 out of 45 :realmad:
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: David Hall on December 21, 2005, 03:34:29 PM
agreed, the @ sign makes it not work, plus what you said
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: deegeecees on December 21, 2005, 03:59:43 PM
Started on: Wednesday, 21 December 2005, 03:46 PM
Completed on: Wednesday, 21 December 2005, 03:56 PM
Time taken: 10 mins 
Raw score: 26/45 (58 %)
Grade: 26 out of a maximum of 45
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Bob Wahr on December 21, 2005, 05:11:48 PM
Had some distractions and was generally slow so I ran out of time.  I suck.

Started on: Wednesday, 21 December 2005, 05:00 PM
Completed on: Wednesday, 21 December 2005, 05:10 PM
Time taken: 10 mins 
Raw score: 31/45 (69 %)
Grade: 31 out of a maximum of 45
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: ronjonp on December 21, 2005, 05:55:12 PM
I have issues with this one:

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To draw a line a length of 8 feet, 4 5/8 inches in the 12 o’clock direction from the last point selected, enter:



I would have used:

@8'4-5/8"<90

I agree there is something screwy about all their answers.
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Kerry on December 21, 2005, 06:10:03 PM
Well. three parts the worlds users would fail that, whats a feet ?


<?jk>
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Keith™ on December 21, 2005, 10:56:33 PM
Time taken: 5 mins 38 secs
Raw score: 41/45 (91 %)
Grade: 41 out of a maximum of 45


There are at least 2 incorrect answers in the test ...

#2 incorrectly states that you cannot explode a block with a negative scale ... this WAS true before R14,  but ever since R14, you have been able to explode negatively scaled blocks and blocks with uneven scale factors ... Autodesk NEEDS to fix that one ...

The question about drawing a line at a specific distance in Architectural units from a starting point in the 12 O'Clock direction is wrong ... while the formatting of the dimension they have selected is correct, it WILL NOT produce a line in any direction unless you specify a direction vector. It WILL however, draw a line utilizing the direction vector produced by the angle between the last selected point and the current location of the cursor. Thus if the cursor is at a 45 degree angle (with ortho off) then the line will be drawn at that angle... all of that is presuming you leave off the @ sign .. otherwise an error is generated ...

I also misread the question concerning workspaces ... in my haste I thought it was asking if it was true or false that there ARE default workspaces, not that there ARE NOT default workspaces ...

I don't remember what the fourth one I got wrong was, but it was dealing with something that I rarely use. I wish I could remember what it was ...
<edit> The fourth question was dealing with setting up drawings ... I selected ortho, they said limits ... mine are all automatic anyway ... ever since we had templates, who does that crap anyway</edit>
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: jonesy on December 22, 2005, 04:20:22 AM
I didnt even attempt it. The last online test had all feet/inches questions. I have never used them, nor would I know how to input them
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Greg B on December 22, 2005, 08:57:03 AM
I didnt even attempt it. The last online test had all feet/inches questions. I have never used them, nor would I know how to input them

OH it's easy.  Your own foot is a foot long and your toes are digits of that foot.
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: M-dub on December 22, 2005, 09:00:13 AM
OH it's easy.  Your own foot is a foot long and your toes are digits of that foot.

Mine are 13 1/2 inches....I have freakish feet. :shock:
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Greg B on December 22, 2005, 09:33:32 AM
OH it's easy.  Your own foot is a foot long and your toes are digits of that foot.

Mine are 13 1/2 inches....I have freakish feet. :shock:

It's still a foot long.  Your foot, but still a foot long.
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Maverick® on December 22, 2005, 09:39:42 AM
  It's a bit disturbing you know the exact measurement.  I can't really say in 38 yrs. I've ever measured my feet.  Guess I don't go to the right parties.  :-D
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: M-dub on December 22, 2005, 09:46:41 AM
LOL
I just did it out of curiosity when I read Greg's post.  :)
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Greg B on December 22, 2005, 10:01:25 AM
  It's a bit disturbing you know the exact measurement.  I can't really say in 38 yrs. I've ever measured my feet.  Guess I don't go to the right parties.  :-D

You may not have measured your feet, but I bet you've measured something else.
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Maverick® on December 22, 2005, 10:11:29 AM
You may not have measured your feet, but I bet you've measured something else.

  I just knew I shouldn't have brought it up.

  Yes, my waist is in fact,  33 inches.
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Greg B on December 22, 2005, 10:12:30 AM
You may not have measured your feet, but I bet you've measured something else.

  I just knew I shouldn't have brought it up.

  Yes, my waist is in fact,  33 inches.


Oh huh....


I was thinking something like the drawings your working on.
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Maverick® on December 22, 2005, 10:17:05 AM
  There are no body parts in my drawings.
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Greg B on December 22, 2005, 10:17:51 AM
  There are no body parts in my drawings.

Who said it HAD to be body parts?
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Maverick® on December 22, 2005, 10:20:36 AM
I was thinking something like the drawings your working on.

  No you weren't. You were just waiting to see which direction you were going to go next.
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Greg B on December 22, 2005, 10:23:31 AM
I was thinking something like the drawings your working on.

  No you weren't. You were just waiting to see which direction you were going to go next.

You don't know me.  You don't know ANYTHING about me!  Your not my father!
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Maverick® on December 22, 2005, 11:04:34 AM
You don't know me.  You don't know ANYTHING about me!  Your not my father!

Alrighty then.

Easy Luke, just jump in your x-wing with your robot and fly away before you get the belt.
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Dent Cermak on December 22, 2005, 01:03:51 PM
You may not have measured your feet, but I bet you've measured something else.

  I just knew I shouldn't have brought it up.

  Yes, my waist is in fact,  33 inches.

what's that, "dog inches"?
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Dent Cermak on December 22, 2005, 01:06:54 PM
Started on: Thursday, 22 December 2005, 08:00 AM
Completed on: Thursday, 22 December 2005, 08:10 AM
Time taken: 10 mins 
Raw score: 39/45 (87 %)
Grade: 39 out of a maximum of 45
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: whdjr on December 22, 2005, 01:51:04 PM
Started on: Thursday, 22 December 2005, 08:00 aM
Completed on: Thursday, 22 December 2005, 08:10 PM
..

Didn't I say NO CHEATIN'?  I know I said NO CHEATIN'.

So Dent...when does 08:00 aM to 08:10 PM equal 10 minutes?  :realmad:








 :-)
I'm just jealous cause I didn't even finish...I suck.
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: CADaver on December 22, 2005, 02:16:01 PM
Started on: Thursday, 22 December 2005, 02:01 PM
Completed on: Thursday, 22 December 2005, 02:08 PM
Time taken: 6 mins 10 secs
Raw score: 43/45 (96 %)
Grade: 43 out of a maximum of 45


i missed #29 because none of the answers (including theirs) was correct all the answers were missing the vector entry.  and i missed the one about exploding blocks.  guessed right on a couple others
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: zoltan on December 22, 2005, 02:26:21 PM
I took third place overall at AU.  I would have had first, had I not realized after a finished the drawing first that I messed something up and when back and chaged it.  Which made me mess other things up.

Next Year!!
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Keith™ on December 22, 2005, 03:48:39 PM

... i missed #29 because none of the answers (including theirs) was correct all the answers were missing the vector entry. and i missed the one about exploding blocks. ...

That is ok .. because #2 (exploding blocks) and #29 (the elusive direction vector) are both incorrect on the quiz ...
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: nivuahc on December 22, 2005, 04:10:27 PM
I demand that my official score be changed to 34/45  :realmad:
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Dent Cermak on December 22, 2005, 04:19:04 PM
Started on:   Wednesday, 21 December 2005, 02:28 PM
Completed on:   Wednesday, 21 December 2005, 02:38 PM
Time taken:   10 mins 2 secs
Raw score:   34/45 (75 %)
Grade:   34 out of a maximum of 45



Happy now ? :police:
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: nivuahc on December 22, 2005, 04:54:32 PM
Started on:   Wednesday, 21 December 2005, 02:28 PM
Completed on:   Wednesday, 21 December 2005, 02:38 PM
Time taken:   10 mins 2 secs
Raw score:   34/45 (76 %)
Grade:   34 out of a maximum of 45



Happy now ? :police:

Now I am  :evil:
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: CADaver on December 22, 2005, 06:31:42 PM

... i missed #29 because none of the answers (including theirs) was correct all the answers were missing the vector entry. and i missed the one about exploding blocks. ...

That is ok .. because #2 (exploding blocks) and #29 (the elusive direction vector) are both incorrect on the quiz ...
ya reckon somebody should tell 'em??
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: TR on December 22, 2005, 07:46:10 PM
Thank god I don't draft for a living.   :|

Quote
Started on:   Thursday, 22 December 2005, 07:37 PM
Completed on:   Thursday, 22 December 2005, 07:44 PM
Time taken:   6 mins 41 secs
Raw score:   29/45 (64 %)
Grade:   29 out of a maximum of 45
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Keith™ on December 22, 2005, 08:21:08 PM

... i missed #29 because none of the answers (including theirs) was correct all the answers were missing the vector entry. and i missed the one about exploding blocks. ...

That is ok .. because #2 (exploding blocks) and #29 (the elusive direction vector) are both incorrect on the quiz ...
ya reckon somebody should tell 'em??
I already did, right after I took the quiz, I have yet to hear a response from them ...
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: PDJ on December 22, 2005, 09:08:18 PM
Started on:   Thursday, 22 December 2005, 08:55 PM
Completed on:   Thursday, 22 December 2005, 09:03 PM
Time taken:   8 mins 24 secs
Raw score:   26/45 (58 %)
Grade:   26 out of a maximum of 45

Dangit.. And I STILL can't find more than 8 friggin bands on that one thingy..

I'ma quit takin tests..  But hey, I DID get #29 right. w00h00!! IN YOUR FACE!!
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Keith™ on December 22, 2005, 09:23:18 PM
only cause there was so much talk about it here ... I bet you got #2 right as well ...
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Jeff_M on December 23, 2005, 07:31:22 PM
Well, here's mine...I didn't answer the final 6 questions due to my wife getting home from work and I needed to chat with her.
Started on:   Friday, 23 December 2005, 07:11 PM
Completed on:   Friday, 23 December 2005, 07:21 PM
Time taken:   10 mins 10 secs
Raw score:   36/45 (80 %)
Grade:   36 out of a maximum of 45

BTW, unless they changed it, Question 29's answer IS correct. You all just didn't read the question properly....
Quote
To draw a line a length of 8 feet, 4 5/8 inches in the 12 o’clock direction from the last point selected, you would type "________<90":"
note that the vector angle is in the question.......
The others I got wrong had to do with 3d or 2006, neither of which I use.....
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: nivuahc on December 24, 2005, 08:02:24 AM
Well, here's mine...I didn't answer the final 6 questions due to my wife getting home from work and I needed to chat with her.
Started on:   Friday, 23 December 2005, 07:11 PM
Completed on:   Friday, 23 December 2005, 07:21 PM
Time taken:   10 mins 10 secs
Raw score:   36/45 (80 %)
Grade:   36 out of a maximum of 45

BTW, unless they changed it, Question 29's answer IS correct. You all just didn't read the question properly....
Quote
To draw a line a length of 8 feet, 4 5/8 inches in the 12 o’clock direction from the last point selected, you would type "________<90":"
note that the vector angle is in the question.......
The others I got wrong had to do with 3d or 2006, neither of which I use.....


If the vector portion is in the question it's only because they've recently added it. My posting of the question was a direct cut-n-paste from when I took the quiz.
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: CADaver on December 24, 2005, 12:37:55 PM
it is my understanding that they got thumped several times over 29 and revised the test.
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: Jeff_M on December 24, 2005, 12:52:39 PM
If the vector portion is in the question it's only because they've recently added it. My posting of the question was a direct cut-n-paste from when I took the quiz.
I figured as much, at least it's good to know they listen to constructive criticism :-)
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: nivuahc on December 26, 2005, 04:22:20 PM
bragging rights?  :roll:
Title: Re: Top Daug Contest
Post by: SDETERS on December 26, 2005, 09:15:39 PM
Started on:   Monday, 26 December 2005, 09:02 PM
Completed on:   Monday, 26 December 2005, 09:12 PM
Time taken:   9 mins 9 secs
Raw score:   21/45 (47 %)
Grade:   21 out of a maximum of 45

The lowest score posted  Woot 

Not to bad for an I-Deas 3D modeling guru  :lol:
I only use Autocad on a very limited bases
Thanks