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Title: Secure vlx file
Post by: civil.eng on December 20, 2020, 02:28:34 AM
Hello everyone,
Recently, VLX programs are decompiled easily, and also .FAS files, it's not interesting, because we all have an Autolisp program that we want to keep it safe. so I'm going to find a way to bypass decompilers and keep VLX safe from the tools. what do you think? is there any way or trick to do that?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: stevej on December 20, 2020, 03:27:11 PM
Have you seen http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=19149.msg232912 yet?

Steve
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: VovKa on December 20, 2020, 06:51:38 PM
is there any way or trick to do that?
https://www.theswamp.org/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;sa=topics;u=33031
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: BIGAL on December 21, 2020, 06:11:58 PM
You really have to work on the 99.9% theory that is that the majority have no idea how to crack a program and then change it.

I know of $9,000 software that was cracked and could be bought for like $100 out of a Asian country. This was cracked at assembler level edit the exe.
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: d2010 on December 22, 2020, 11:52:07 AM
(:lol:  "You must compile AutoLisp-source.Lsp with "Compile to=> Mode/Jc_pin15.lsp")
Even, the most badHacker person, can not recover/crack your source.ascii.Lisp from isInside program.Vlx(or .Fas or .Des)
 (:wideeyed2:  "I hope I can develop dynamically-jc_pin15.lsp, very,very-soon")
 :sleezy:
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RE: I know of $9,000 software that was cracked
and could be bought for like $100 out of a Asian country.
This was cracked at assembler level edit the exe.
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: civil.eng on December 23, 2020, 03:19:45 AM
You really have to work on the 99.9% theory that is that the majority have no idea how to crack a program and then change it.

I know of $9,000 software that was cracked and could be bought for like $100 out of a Asian country. This was cracked at assembler level edit the exe.

I agree with you, but the highest protection version of AutoLisp is VLX file, while I have seen a simple and free tool on the web so that any ordinary users can cracks any VLX file easily. actually I'm not trying to full protect or achieve 99.9 % protection of lisp file, currently I'm a trying to find a way to secure my file from typical users or the tool.

There is a point that is  the software with $9,000 cost may be broken by 1% of users. and also the such software are very common and known.
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: civil.eng on December 23, 2020, 03:34:39 AM
(:lol:  "You must compile AutoLisp-source.Lsp with "Compile to=> Mode/Jc_pin15.lsp")
Even, the most badHacker person, can not recover/crack your source.ascii.Lisp from isInside program.Vlx(or .Fas or .Des)
 (:wideeyed2:  "I hope I can develop dynamically-jc_pin15.lsp, very,very-soon")
 :sleezy:
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RE: I know of $9,000 software that was cracked
and could be bought for like $100 out of a Asian country.
This was cracked at assembler level edit the exe.

I couldn't find any information about "Compile to=> Mode/Jc_pin15.lsp", what is it? could you give more explanation?
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: d2010 on December 28, 2020, 08:31:36 AM
(:lol:  "You must compile AutoLisp-source.Lsp with "Compile to=> Mode/Jc_pin15.lsp")

click here, click here, click here (https://sourceforge.net/projects/vlaxcompil/files/Kit2020-03/setup-vlaxcompil1-141k.zip/download)
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: civil.eng on December 31, 2020, 06:05:58 AM
I've installed last version of the program, Does it have a guidance to use?
The program is confusing,  has many option and menu, where can I compile lsp in the program?
I see this window after running it :
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: baitang36 on December 31, 2020, 10:34:36 PM
It is a mature technology to decompile Fas into LSP. I have decompiler tools in my hand.
 In order to protect the source code, I developed a protection tool, by modifying Fas to make it unable to be decompiled.
It comes in two versions, free and paid. Free version is relatively simple, suitable for free software, need friends contact me: 5520971@qq.com
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: baitang36 on December 31, 2020, 10:43:13 PM
Hello everyone,
Recently, VLX programs are decompiled easily, and also .FAS files, it's not interesting, because we all have an Autolisp program that we want to keep it safe. so I'm going to find a way to bypass decompilers and keep VLX safe from the tools. what do you think? is there any way or trick to do that?

Thanks in advance.
Decompiler tools can only decompile standard Fas files. My counter measure is to make Fas no longer standard. I can change the instructions of Fas and use some rare instructions. You can also add a goto instruction to it, because there is goto in FAS, but not in LSP.
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: d2010 on January 01, 2021, 02:11:40 AM
Now , you can to generate all possible geometry/trigonometry of MathematicalFormulas - in modelspace.
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: d2010 on January 01, 2021, 11:50:50 PM
step0)You use, two-submenu (FileDia and Run-AltR") you total-ignore others submenu+option/s), because  other/s are unusefull for compile.
step1) You start your-mini-project.vlax
(Defun c:pay(/ $rr ==>click here<==) (https://youtu.be/cuBbQ6K45YY)
 :blink:
I've installed last version of the program, Does it have a guidance to use?
The program is confusing,  has many option and menu, where can I compile lsp in the program?
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: civil.eng on January 02, 2021, 02:04:51 AM
I couldn't use the program,
Could you compile this lsp file for test:
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: d2010 on January 02, 2021, 02:09:05 AM
I couldn't use the program,
Could you compile this lsp file for example:
You need daily-chatting. you must, make user -account on the "lisp2arx forum.ro" with google.com. I don't; need spam "the swamp forum  lisp" with message/s
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(defun c:snu3 (/ xorg ss)
  (vl-load-com)
  (setq ss (ssget (list (cons0  "TEXT,MTEXT"))))
  (setq tare
(alert
   (strcat
     "Sum of numbers: "
     (rtos
       (apply
(read "+")
(MAPCAR
   (function (LAMBDA (Xorg)
      (atof (vlax-get (vlax-ename->vla-object X) (read "Textstring"))
    )
   (vl-remove-if (read "listp") (mapcar (read "cadr") (ssnamex ss)))
)
       )
       2
       4
     )
   )
)
  )
You have only 23% from 100% rights.
If you decompile .Fas to .Lsp, then you see "Registration-codes/store inside vlx or .fas" and the Mr-civil.eng-person cannot sell any "civil-eng.vlx" on www.Autodesk-appStore.com.
Code - Auto/Visual Lisp: [Select]
  1. #region
  2. c_snu3
  3. (defun c_snu3 (/ xorg ss)
  4. /*c2s:   vl.load_com();
  5.          ss=ssget(lISt(cons(0,"TEXT,MTEXT"))),
  6.          tare=alert(strcat("Sum of numbers: ",rtos(apply(read("+"),
  7.                 mapcar(function(lambda(xorg(),
  8.              atof(vlax.get(vlax.ename->vla_object(Xorg),read("Textstring"))),
  9.                     vl.remove_if(read("listp"),mapcar(read("cadr"),ssnamex(ss))))),2,4)))));
  10.  // e-setq2#0
  11. */
  12. tare)
  13.  
  14. %include=vl_load_com
  15. #endrEgion
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: civil.eng on January 02, 2021, 02:22:53 AM
Hello everyone,
Recently, VLX programs are decompiled easily, and also .FAS files, it's not interesting, because we all have an Autolisp program that we want to keep it safe. so I'm going to find a way to bypass decompilers and keep VLX safe from the tools. what do you think? is there any way or trick to do that?

Thanks in advance.
Decompiler tools can only decompile standard Fas files. My counter measure is to make Fas no longer standard. I can change the instructions of Fas and use some rare instructions. You can also add a goto instruction to it, because there is goto in FAS, but not in LSP.

My main question was about .Vlx not .Fas, does your tools work only on fas file? I don't know about goto, could you secure attached .lsp file for test?? :
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: d2010 on January 02, 2021, 02:45:40 AM
Q1=My main question was about .Vlx not .Fas, does your tools work only on fas file?
A2=No, he can crack  *.VLX and he crack.Fas files...
A3=If you don't believe me,then  you upload here "civil-eng.vlx" and
I try  extract all files.fas /  from "civil-eng.vlx".



Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: baitang36 on January 02, 2021, 09:25:51 PM
Hello everyone,
Recently, VLX programs are decompiled easily, and also .FAS files, it's not interesting, because we all have an Autolisp program that we want to keep it safe. so I'm going to find a way to bypass decompilers and keep VLX safe from the tools. what do you think? is there any way or trick to do that?

Thanks in advance.
Decompiler tools can only decompile standard Fas files. My counter measure is to make Fas no longer standard. I can change the instructions of Fas and use some rare instructions. You can also add a goto instruction to it, because there is goto in FAS, but not in LSP.
My main question was about .Vlx not .Fas, does your tools work only on fas file? I don't know about goto, could you secure attached .lsp file for test?? :
sumnum_ pro.fas It's an encrypted file
sumnum.fas.lsp Is the file generated by decompilation
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: baitang36 on January 02, 2021, 09:41:22 PM
Q1=My main question was about .Vlx not .Fas, does your tools work only on fas file?
A2=No, he can crack  *.VLX and he crack.Fas files...
A3=If you don't believe me,then  you upload here "civil-eng.vlx" and
I try  extract all files.fas /  from "civil-eng.vlx".
Vlx can be decomposed into Fas DCL TXT
Fas can be decompiled into LSP source code
Vlx Fas can also be encrypted
I have free tools to email to 5520971@qq.com Ask for.
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: civil.eng on January 03, 2021, 02:41:56 AM
Q1=My main question was about .Vlx not .Fas, does your tools work only on fas file?
A2=No, he can crack  *.VLX and he crack.Fas files...
A3=If you don't believe me,then  you upload here "civil-eng.vlx" and
I try  extract all files.fas /  from "civil-eng.vlx".
Vlx can be decomposed into Fas DCL TXT
Fas can be decompiled into LSP source code
Vlx Fas can also be encrypted
I have free tools to email to 5520971@qq.com Ask for.
I have received it. and I've just checked it out, it's not secure at all, so that I could decompile the fas after encrypt it very easily,
Sorry for say that.
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: baitang36 on January 03, 2021, 07:00:08 AM
Q1=My main question was about .Vlx not .Fas, does your tools work only on fas file?
A2=No, he can crack  *.VLX and he crack.Fas files...
A3=If you don't believe me,then  you upload here "civil-eng.vlx" and
I try  extract all files.fas /  from "civil-eng.vlx".
Vlx can be decomposed into Fas DCL TXT
Fas can be decompiled into LSP source code
Vlx Fas can also be encrypted
I have free tools to email to 5520971@qq.com Ask for.
I have received it. and I've just checked it out, it's not secure at all, so that I could decompile the fas after encrypt it very easily,
Sorry for say that.
It's a free version for you, just a demo. The paid version is more complicated than that
At present, there are more than 20 commercial software in use, and there is no source code theft problem。
You can send me a bigger Fas and I'll encrypt it with the paid version。email:5520971@qq.com
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: baitang36 on January 03, 2021, 10:18:37 AM
so that I could decompile the fas after encrypt it very easily
try this
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: d2010 on January 03, 2021, 10:22:15 AM
so that I could decompile the fas after encrypt it very easily
try this
Many year/s inside all-compilator-s, this question (Q2 down)
(MAI_LISTTOSTREAM   "d:/test_e.fas" (append  '( 01
If you replace the number=000 with other, then you can store the file.fas inside as "String". This benefit you can hide program.fas inside "String/s"
 :opps:
Q2=How to avoid the number 000 or \000?
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: baitang36 on January 03, 2021, 08:48:31 PM
so that I could decompile the fas after encrypt it very easily
try this
Many year/s inside all-compilator-s, this question (Q2 down)
(MAI_LISTTOSTREAM   "d:/test_e.fas" (append  '( 01
If you replace the number=000 with other, then you can store the file.fas inside as "String". This benefit you can hide program.fas inside "String/s"
 :opps:
Q2=How to avoid the number 000 or \000?


My packing program is relatively simple, each character is converted into three digits, which is a bit of a waste of space
Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: d2010 on January 28, 2021, 12:14:38 PM
I need to develop internet-help/online inside Firefox-browser.
Always.You insert asking-Help here on this topic-page.
http://lisp2arx.3xforum.ro/topic/40/Guidance-Question_Answer_/ (http://lisp2arx.3xforum.ro/topic/40/Guidance-Question_Answer_/)
 :nerdyembarassed:
I've installed last version of the program, Does it have a guidance to use?
The program is confusing,  has many option and menu, where can I compile lsp in the program?

Title: Re: Secure vlx file
Post by: BIGAL on January 28, 2021, 06:41:09 PM
To Civil.eng what are you trying to protect ? I have been involved closely with civil design software for over 30 years, having been a state rep for a well known civil package so are you trying to reinvent the wheel to match 30 years of development ?

It really comes down to 3 types of people those that want it free, those prepared to pay, I sold at $9,000 Aus the package, the 3rd the pirates who want everything but dont want to pay. But they get paid for there work.

What price are you putting on your package ? Do you sell 1 at $2500 or sell 50 at $100. At the lower level less likely to get pirated.

Look at the Autodesk apps store most software there is inexpensive so gets purchased.