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Title: Activation issue rant
Post by: Keith™ on December 17, 2018, 07:06:57 PM
So, I've had to re-install Windows and I cannot get A2k7 to register. I saved the registration information from previously and I made sure I entered all the information exactly the same, but when I try to activate, I get a 204 error. I tried getting an activation key from Autodesk and the request code is 8 characters less than the registration form will accept. I am getting the dreaded 204 error …

I know I should upgrade, but I can't justify the expense and not to mention its a subscription ... and I only design 4 or 5 houses a year.

It just pisses me off.

Carry on with your regularly scheduled programming.
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: Mark on December 18, 2018, 07:46:53 AM
https://www.bricsys.com/en-intl/bricscad/  perhaps!
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: mjfarrell on December 18, 2018, 10:06:59 AM
Pain in da....


However, it might be that you would need to write ZEROS to your entire HD

And then reinstall everything...
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: dgorsman on December 18, 2018, 10:42:31 AM
Odds are, the Windows re-install invalidated the previous activation code.  Something that old, I wouldn't bother with auto/online activation and go straight to the reseller for help getting manual codes.
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: Gergeobusges on December 21, 2018, 12:21:45 AM
The topic you set up is very interesting. I have studied and read more continuously.
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: kdub on December 21, 2018, 03:18:05 AM
George. Do you actually have anything constructive to add to the conversation ??

Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: MP on December 21, 2018, 08:50:05 AM
Maybe he’s just curious.
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: kdub on December 21, 2018, 01:05:20 PM

Yes, perhaps I should be more poetic.

Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: Keith™ on January 04, 2019, 11:57:09 AM
A couple of calls and I find out that Autodesk has stopped issuing activations for software older than AutoCAD 2014.

Seriously?

I have a PERPETUAL LICENSE!!! That means FOREVER. Autodesk apparently believes they can arbitrarily deny a user access to licensed software they obtained lawfully.

I am trying to do this legitimately, but they are trying my patience!
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: MP on January 04, 2019, 12:15:21 PM
Sorry Keith, Autodesk seems bent on alienating their customers while BricsCAD seems bent on earning customer and developer loyalty. Cue Kenny Rogers.
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: ronjonp on January 04, 2019, 12:25:58 PM
Sorry Keith, Autodesk seems bent on alienating their customers while BricsCAD seems bent on earning customer and developer loyalty. Cue Kenny Rogers.
I tried to get a developer license a couple of times and was denied because I'm not going to sell the software ( internal use ). Thought that was kinda strange since they would get 6 more customers if we took their route.

Totally agree about Adesk.
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: dgorsman on January 07, 2019, 11:41:01 AM
"Perpetual" shouldn't be considered literally, it doesn't mean "forever-forever".  At some point they do have to cut things off.  Otherwise they end up wasting time with people trying to install AutoCAD 2019 on 32-bit Win XP or some such.  Or they have to include so much spaghetti code in the program to support all those possibilities.

Might also consider they are using a third-party licensing tool.  There may be restrictions on their end we just aren't seeing.
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: cadtag on January 08, 2019, 07:48:54 AM
"Perpetual" is literal.  Adesk is legally obligated to provide authentication codes until the heat death of the universe.  That doesn't mean that they have to provide support for Acad 2005 under whatever OS platform is available in 2525, but they do have to provide the correct authorization codes for any legal purchaser who did not upgrade.  That's true until Adesk folds it tent and creeps quietly into the night of bankruptcy.

Adobe got around that by releasing universal codes for their last non-rental version, 
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: rkmcswain on January 08, 2019, 08:08:48 AM
"Perpetual" is literal.  Adesk is legally obligated to provide authentication codes until the heat death of the universe.  That doesn't mean that they have to provide support for Acad 2005 under whatever OS platform is available in 2525, but they do have to provide the correct authorization codes for any legal purchaser who did not upgrade.  That's true until Adesk folds it tent and creeps quietly into the night of bankruptcy.

THIS ^^^^^

@Keith - who told you that Autodesk has "stopped issuing activations"?
That is wrong.
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: Keith™ on March 12, 2019, 11:42:19 PM
"Perpetual" is literal.  Adesk is legally obligated to provide authentication codes until the heat death of the universe.  That doesn't mean that they have to provide support for Acad 2005 under whatever OS platform is available in 2525, but they do have to provide the correct authorization codes for any legal purchaser who did not upgrade.  That's true until Adesk folds it tent and creeps quietly into the night of bankruptcy.

THIS ^^^^^

@Keith - who told you that Autodesk has "stopped issuing activations"?
That is wrong.

I don't recall now, its been a while. It was through the Autodesk website.

In order to get back to work, I restored an old drive and was able to use the software … until this weekend. Windows pushed out an update and AutoCAD no longer works … again!!

I've obtained an email address for their technical support and I sent a request. So far no response, but I didn't expect an answer right away.

Regardless, I only have 5 days before AutoCAD stops working completely and I am right in the middle of 3 projects and I was informed I will be receiving two more in the next week.
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: mjfarrell on March 13, 2019, 09:50:54 AM
"Perpetual" is literal.  Adesk is legally obligated to provide authentication codes until the heat death of the universe.  That doesn't mean that they have to provide support for Acad 2005 under whatever OS platform is available in 2525, but they do have to provide the correct authorization codes for any legal purchaser who did not upgrade.  That's true until Adesk folds it tent and creeps quietly into the night of bankruptcy.

THIS ^^^^^

@Keith - who told you that Autodesk has "stopped issuing activations"?
That is wrong.

I don't recall now, its been a while. It was through the Autodesk website.

In order to get back to work, I restored an old drive and was able to use the software … until this weekend. Windows pushed out an update and AutoCAD no longer works … again!!

I've obtained an email address for their technical support and I sent a request. So far no response, but I didn't expect an answer right away.

Regardless, I only have 5 days before AutoCAD stops working completely and I am right in the middle of 3 projects and I was informed I will be receiving two more in the next week.
hmm, new hard drive and temp installs of everything??
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: Keith™ on March 13, 2019, 05:44:38 PM
I can't believe it! I heard back from Autodesk and this time they provided an activation code that worked. Some dear soul named Juliette L. Don't know who that is, but she just made me a happy camper ..
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: rkmcswain on March 13, 2019, 05:48:35 PM
If you can find out the last name, we can all spam send her THANK YOU notes.


first.last@autodesk.com
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: rkmcswain on March 13, 2019, 05:50:52 PM
Quote from: ronjonp
I tried to get a developer license a couple of times and was denied because I'm not going to sell the software ( internal use ). Thought that was kinda strange since they would get 6 more customers if we took their route.



Interesting. Could you not do what you needed to do in 30 days with a trial?
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: Keith™ on March 13, 2019, 07:38:53 PM
Quote from: ronjonp
I tried to get a developer license a couple of times and was denied because I'm not going to sell the software ( internal use ). Thought that was kinda strange since they would get 6 more customers if we took their route.



Interesting. Could you not do what you needed to do in 30 days with a trial?


I know that I’ve been developing one package for about 2 years. Some things just take time.
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: cadtag on July 17, 2019, 02:28:59 PM
I just got this in the mail from a VAR.... (bolding mine)

"Beginning August 31, 2019, Autodesk will end support for versions 2010 and earlier and ask that you upgrade to a supported version. You may continue to use your product if it is already installed, however Autodesk will no longer provide support, including re-activation, for these versions. "

That seems like a lawsuit just waiting to happen, 
Title: Re: Activation issue rant
Post by: Master_Shake on July 17, 2019, 04:29:44 PM
I just got this in the mail from a VAR.... (bolding mine)

"Beginning August 31, 2019, Autodesk will end support for versions 2010 and earlier and ask that you upgrade to a supported version. You may continue to use your product if it is already installed, however Autodesk will no longer provide support, including re-activation, for these versions. "

That seems like a lawsuit just waiting to happen,


Yeouch! I understand the lack of support. They should just disable the activation server and return TRUE for those older versions.