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Title: Room Names
Post by: CAB on January 07, 2004, 05:32:04 PM
Not sure where this question should go?
Seems like I have no answers today, just questions.

A realtor called mu up today and asked if there was a reference
that had industry definitions  for the different rooms.
Like what is the difference between Family Room and a Great Room.

I told him it was the spelling  8) but he was looking for more.
Has anyone seen any reference or magazine article that addressed
the definitions?

CAB
Title: Room Names
Post by: Keith™ on January 07, 2004, 05:53:19 PM
A Great Room in my understanding is when you have GREAT BIG Room, typically being the focal point for visitors and the "showcase" of the home. The Living Room is generally reserved for the room designated as the main place where family typically gathers, there might be a television or stereo equipment in this room. This room is also typically smaller than the Great Room. The Family Room label is used as a direct replacement for the Living Room. The Den is typically much smaller than the Living Room generally around 100 sq ft or so depending upon the size of the home and is used typically when a person would like to "escape" the rigors of interaction with others and find a comfortable place to relax, read a book or take a cat nap.

Now, these are not necessarily definitions, but it is the standard for which all of the architectural firms I have worked with judge what rooms should be labeled what.
Title: Room Names
Post by: Bob Garner on January 07, 2004, 06:20:06 PM
Sometimes the naming of a room can cause you grief if you're getting permits for construction.  When we remodeled our house by the addition of a bedroom, we did not want to build a separate closet.  So we had to call it a sunroom to get the addition permitted.
Games people play.
Title: Room Names
Post by: CAB on January 07, 2004, 06:21:28 PM
Thanks for the input.

When does a porch become a Lanai or a portico?

CAB
Title: Room Names
Post by: daron on January 07, 2004, 06:22:32 PM
I've always understood that a great room is like combining the living/family room into one. Therefore, a great room can only exist when it is the only room for family and entertainment.
Title: Room Names
Post by: Dent Cermak on January 07, 2004, 07:47:31 PM
A porch becones a lani only in Hawaii. Using the term anywhereelse is austentatious at best. Some folks like to sound "worldly".
Title: Room Names
Post by: Keith™ on January 07, 2004, 10:30:58 PM
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When does a porch become a Lanai or a portico?


Well, here again I think it depends upon how big the house is and how big the porch is ....Lets say you have a porch, 800 sq ft, on a house that is 1600 sq ft, we probably would call it a porch .... but if the same porch were on a house of say 3200 sq ft, we would call it a lanai. The same goes for a portico and foyer for that matter....under around 3000 sq ft, there is no portico and the foyer is pronounced for-yur' On a house over 3000 sq ft, the foyer now becomes a fo-yay' and now your front entry becomes the portico .. it is funny how rich people change the rules for all of us poor folks .... or maybe we are the ones who are too stupid to know the difference?

Incedently, a porch does not neccessarily have a roof over, but a lanai always has a roof over. Now I know someone will say that it is not a porch without a roof, but then I would wonder just how much time they spent listening to the folks on my side of town.

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Using the term anywhere else is austentatious


Well most of the "upper crust" of society is austentatious anyway and probably wouldn't be caught in one of these forums, so we can bad mouth them all we want now can't we...
Title: Room Names
Post by: CAB on January 07, 2004, 11:37:56 PM
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Incedently, a porch does not neccessarily have a roof over


I thought a porch without a roof was a stoop? :)

When does a hall way become a gallery?

CAB
Title: Room Names
Post by: hendie on January 08, 2004, 03:22:32 AM
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Incedently, a porch does not neccessarily have a roof over


I thought a porch without a roof was a stoop? :)

When does a hall way become a gallery?

CAB


I thought a porch without a roof was called a patio

and a hallway becomes a gallery when you hang pictures up in it !
Title: Room Names
Post by: Keith™ on January 08, 2004, 07:31:05 AM
Well there again, I think it depends on how southern you are, and your economic status.
Title: Room Names
Post by: daron on January 08, 2004, 09:26:47 AM
Patio is on the back of the house and a porch is on the front. Then you want to get into the military's idea of what's the front and the back of the house? I grew up in military housing and if someone referred to the front of the house, they expected to meet you at the back of the house. Talk about confusing. Here's another word for a piece of slab with a roof overhead, LOGGIA. Now what's the difference between that and a covered patio, porch, lanai or whatever else you want to call it?
Title: Room Names
Post by: CAB on January 08, 2004, 09:37:32 AM
Now that's an interesting one.

I guess the rule is "There are no rules"

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log·gi·a    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (lôj-, lj-)
n.
An open-sided, roofed or vaulted gallery, either free-standing or along the front or side of a building, often at an upper level.
An open balcony in a theater.


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[Italian, from Old Italian, from Old French loge. See loge.]


Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


loggia

\Log"gia\, n. [It. See Lodge.] (Arch.) A roofed open gallery. It differs from a veranda in being more architectural, and in forming more decidedly a part of the main edifice to which it is attached; from a porch, in being intended not for entrance but for an out-of-door sitting-room.


Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.


loggia

n : an open-sided roofed arcade or gallery along the front or side of a building; often at an upper level

Title: Room Names
Post by: daron on January 08, 2004, 09:57:15 AM
Cool, but it's still has no more or less function than a patio. Here's (http://www.theswamp.org/lilly.pond/DR/loggia.png) a loggia that we've built.
Title: Room Names
Post by: CAB on January 08, 2004, 10:07:50 AM
When does a Lanai / Loggia become a cabana? :)
Title: Room Names
Post by: daron on January 08, 2004, 10:14:54 AM
When you throw a party.