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Title: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: TheCADnoob on February 29, 2016, 09:14:25 AM
We are on the verge of being completely digital in our department yet our standards still call out the creation of hard copies. I'm just curious what everyone's thoughts are on keeping flat files around in the vault.
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: ronjonp on February 29, 2016, 09:18:14 AM
Quit making hard copies in 2009. All digital archives.
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: Mark on February 29, 2016, 09:27:29 AM
Quit making hard copies in 2009. All digital archives.
It was like 2001-2 for us. :)
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: ronjonp on February 29, 2016, 09:31:54 AM
Quit making hard copies in 2009. All digital archives.
It was like 2001-2 for us. :)
Lucky you :)
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: TheCADnoob on February 29, 2016, 09:32:43 AM
We have been very slow to adopt apparently haha. The company started the process years ago, but we are just now finishing up the archival process.

Are there issues yall run into that require hard copies still?
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: Mark on February 29, 2016, 09:40:24 AM
Are there issues yall run into that require hard copies still?
Can not think of any, no. But we have large format scanners too.
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: TheCADnoob on February 29, 2016, 10:36:16 AM
Ive had a couple of the old school guys who are totally against it. Luckily policy is that its all going digital but i still have to work with the old school crowd.

Their basic upshot is that there is no tangible way to ensure we can always have the documents. For the most part they are right, but i dont see the world doing a 180 on the digital medium so i just have to tell them there will always be a way... even thought the network has been routinely dropping out lately haha.
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: cadtag on February 29, 2016, 01:00:27 PM
The fist question needs to be 'What are the legal requirements for document retention in the jurisdictions and disciplines you perform work in?"  And that a one that needs to be answered by your corporate counsel, not cad staff, designers, or engineers.
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: Jeff H on February 29, 2016, 01:30:33 PM
Not sure if true but I thought we were legally required to keep a hard copy of every job done?

When looking a set nothing beats a hard copy for a good final check for me, but 95% digital for me.
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: MSTG007 on February 29, 2016, 01:47:45 PM
This is interesting... I have been toying around with our standards as of late. We currently have no documentation (Hard or digital). We are in in the middle of developing and documenting what we currently do. That's kinda why I was curious about the macros. But I think we are playing around with digital and hard copy with step by step screen shots of all the basic stuff we do.
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: Master_Shake on February 29, 2016, 02:07:02 PM
All digital, if a paper copy is needed it is quite simple print out a new one.
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: mjfarrell on February 29, 2016, 02:10:17 PM
This is interesting... I have been toying around with our standards as of late. We currently have no documentation (Hard or digital). We are in in the middle of developing and documenting what we currently do. That's kinda why I was curious about the macros. But I think we are playing around with digital and hard copy with step by step screen shots of all the basic stuff we do.
With Civil.. Standards are easier to maintain with use of styles and command setting
for the rest a tool palette also goes a long way towards keeping the cowboys on the ranch
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: MSTG007 on February 29, 2016, 02:14:22 PM
I totally agree with that. Its just figuring out how to use them and then explain to people how to utilize them.
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: mjfarrell on February 29, 2016, 02:18:18 PM
I totally agree with that. Its just figuring out how to use them and then explain to people how to utilize them.
The way I do it....Just set up the command settings / styles to produce desired result.
Same for Palette(s)

Then I say to the user...see this Palette...use it.

For most it works out OK.

For some I have to show them the palette again...
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: MSTG007 on February 29, 2016, 02:25:51 PM
I'll have to pass that along to our CAD Manager. :)
Title: Re: CAD standard and hard copies, are they still relevant to you?
Post by: TheCADnoob on March 01, 2016, 08:14:40 AM
The fist question needs to be 'What are the legal requirements for document retention in the jurisdictions and disciplines you perform work in?"  And that a one that needs to be answered by your corporate counsel, not cad staff, designers, or engineers.

Def. good point. We have a couple documents that are hard copy in the 'fire room' due to legal requirements.

We have actually had document management unilaterally decide to destroy active documents so we are kind of un-trusting to them at the moment.