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Title: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 18, 2015, 07:44:09 AM
Hi all,

I'm trouble to plotting a xref drawing.
I can't see some object in the plot preview. There isn't anything wrong with a layer state and the main project, aparently.

Anybody Could help me out, please?

Regads
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Rob... on November 18, 2015, 07:53:15 AM
If you want something more than a guess, post the file.

My first guess is layers set to no-plot.
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 18, 2015, 08:01:23 AM
If you want something more than a guess, post the file.

My first guess is layers set to no-plot.

Rob,

I understand is difficult to help me without a file.

It complicated to post the file.
Because I have to post 2 file and my main project is more than 5Mb.

there isn't anything wrong the layer states and the plot style table.
Actually I see all object in the paper space, it perfect!
But when I plot is missing some objects.
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Rob... on November 18, 2015, 08:08:58 AM
You can use drop box to share the files.

I'm still leaning towards my first guess.
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: ChrisCarlson on November 18, 2015, 08:11:22 AM
If you want something more than a guess, post the file.

My first guess is layers set to no-plot.

Rob,

I understand is difficult to help me without a file.

It complicated to post the file.
Because I have to post 2 file and my main project is more than 5Mb.

there isn't anything wrong the layer states and the plot style table.
Actually I see all object in the paper space, it perfect!
But when I plot is missing some objects.

Is it missing "some" objects or the entire xref? My guess would be some layers are set to no-plot
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Mark on November 18, 2015, 08:11:23 AM
Make sure "Display plot styles" is checked then look for missing objects.
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 18, 2015, 08:14:15 AM
Make sure "Display plot styles" is checked then look for missing objects.

Yep,
It is check my friend!
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 18, 2015, 08:15:13 AM
If you want something more than a guess, post the file.

My first guess is layers set to no-plot.

Rob,

I understand is difficult to help me without a file.

It complicated to post the file.
Because I have to post 2 file and my main project is more than 5Mb.

there isn't anything wrong the layer states and the plot style table.
Actually I see all object in the paper space, it perfect!
But when I plot is missing some objects.

Is it missing "some" objects or the entire xref? My guess would be some layers are set to no-plot

I think so too,
But I opened my main project and plotting. Everything is fine!
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 18, 2015, 08:20:37 AM
Hi guys

See the imagem, please
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Rob... on November 18, 2015, 08:28:54 AM
You actually described the problem quite well. The pictures do not give us any pertinent information as to what is causing the issue.
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Mark on November 18, 2015, 08:30:17 AM
If those are civil3d contours you better check the style.
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 18, 2015, 08:37:06 AM
You actually described the problem quite well. The pictures do not give us any pertinent information as to what is causing the issue.

Thank you Rob,
I'll continue searching the problem.
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 18, 2015, 08:38:31 AM
If those are civil3d contours you better check the style.

The contours is a civil objects. But the others are polylines.
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: mjfarrell on November 18, 2015, 08:38:55 AM
two things...

one are there any 'unreconciled layers' ??  If yes fix them

try using another pen table...

Do the items that do not plot show up in the file before plotting?

Is plot paperspace last checked?

If you plot from Model Space do they plot?

Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 18, 2015, 08:51:00 AM
two things...

one are there any 'unreconciled layers' ??  If yes fix them

try using another pen table...

Do the items that do not plot show up in the file before plotting?

Is plot paperspace last checked?

If you plot from Model Space do they plot?

Hi mjfarrel,

There aren't unreconciled layers.

I've change the pen table

The item that don't plot isn't show up.

Yes, paperspace last check

I'm trying to plot from model space and is the same layout space.
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 18, 2015, 09:05:46 AM
I opened xref, blind the project and explode.

Now it is Fine, I can plot.  :-D
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: mjfarrell on November 18, 2015, 09:08:05 AM
ok, then it is either

layers set to NOT PLOT or

Pens set to 255 (white) so they are plotting you just can not see them

check pen table against objects layer, color, linetype settings...
 

Also try create a NEW layer, use a color that you know is plotting and assign to new layer,
move the NON plotting objects onto that layer, edit civil object style also so that they are also using new layer
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: mjfarrell on November 18, 2015, 09:09:10 AM
I opened xref, blind the project and explode.

Now it is Fine, I can plot.  :-D

that should be the LAST thing anyone would want or need to do...

also it doesn't help you solve the underlying problem for future reference
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 18, 2015, 09:14:50 AM
I opened xref, blind the project and explode.

Now it is Fine, I can plot.  :-D

that should be the LAST thing anyone would want or need to do...

also it doesn't help you solve the underlying problem for future reference

I was hurry to plot the project. So I rename it before explode.  :-D
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: tedg on November 18, 2015, 04:25:28 PM
two things...

one are there any 'unreconciled layers' ??  If yes fix them

try using another pen table...

Do the items that do not plot show up in the file before plotting?

Is plot paperspace last checked?

If you plot from Model Space do they plot?

Hi mjfarrel,

There aren't unreconciled layers.

I've change the pen table

The item that don't plot isn't show up.

Yes, paperspace last check

I'm trying to plot from model space and is the same layout space.


If the xref bases are ok, you may consider setting visretain to 0, then reloading the xrefs, (and then setting visretain back to 1) and see if that works.
This would put the layer states back to what is in the xref files and not any over-ridden layer states, or ones checked off to no plot.


Just a thought
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Rob... on November 18, 2015, 04:47:57 PM
I opened xref, blind the project and explode.

Now it is Fine, I can plot.  :-D

More evidence of it being a layer issue.

What layer is that XREF inserted on?
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 19, 2015, 11:24:06 AM
I opened xref, blind the project and explode.

Now it is Fine, I can plot.  :-D

More evidence of it being a layer issue.

What layer is that XREF inserted on?

Guys,
Good news I think...

all xref layer isn't plotting.

I don't know why.

two things...

one are there any 'unreconciled layers' ??  If yes fix them

try using another pen table...

Do the items that do not plot show up in the file before plotting?

Is plot paperspace last checked?

If you plot from Model Space do they plot?

Hi mjfarrel,

There aren't unreconciled layers.

I've change the pen table

The item that don't plot isn't show up.

Yes, paperspace last check

I'm trying to plot from model space and is the same layout space.


If the xref bases are ok, you may consider setting visretain to 0, then reloading the xrefs, (and then setting visretain back to 1) and see if that works.
This would put the layer states back to what is in the xref files and not any over-ridden layer states, or ones checked off to no plot.


Just a thought

Hi tedg

I've detached and reload the file. I set visretain to 0 and 1.

I did everything you said and isn't working too.
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: mjfarrell on November 19, 2015, 12:10:32 PM
again...make a NEW layer

move XREF to that layer
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 19, 2015, 12:36:52 PM
again...make a NEW layer

move XREF to that layer

Sorry but I didn't get what you mean by "make a new layer and move xref to that layer".
How Can I move xref to the layer?
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: mjfarrell on November 19, 2015, 12:38:24 PM
-layer
n
XREF1

Select the xref
go to properties and  change the layer the object (xref) is on to XREF1 layer you just created
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 19, 2015, 12:56:44 PM
-layer
n
XREF1

Select the xref
go to properties and  change the layer the object (xref) is on to XREF1 layer you just created

Wow
 :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Kudos for you my friend.

When I went to properties the layer selected was (-VIEWPORT) and that layer I put not plotting.

I didn't know that.  :-o

Thank everyone for the help. I really appreciated all helps

Thank you guys
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Mark on November 19, 2015, 01:16:37 PM
damn layers will get you every time. :D
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 19, 2015, 01:29:28 PM
damn layers will get you every time. :D

Yes, damn layers.
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Rob... on November 19, 2015, 01:31:25 PM
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: mjfarrell on November 19, 2015, 01:35:59 PM
-layer
n
XREF1

Select the xref
go to properties and  change the layer the object (xref) is on to XREF1 layer you just created

Wow
 :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Kudos for you my friend.

When I went to properties the layer selected was (-VIEWPORT) and that layer I put not plotting.

I didn't know that.  :-o

Thank everyone for the help. I really appreciated all helps

Thank you guys

You will discover there are other good reasons to keep each XREF on it's own unique layer as well...

saves time unloading and re-loading them
overall layer control is improved - easier filtering
Title: Re: Xref Project - plotting
Post by: Fabricio28 on November 19, 2015, 01:45:32 PM
-layer
n
XREF1

Select the xref
go to properties and  change the layer the object (xref) is on to XREF1 layer you just created



Wow
 :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Kudos for you my friend.

When I went to properties the layer selected was (-VIEWPORT) and that layer I put not plotting.

I didn't know that.  :-o

Thank everyone for the help. I really appreciated all helps

Thank you guys

You will discover there are other good reasons to keep each XREF on it's own unique layer as well...

saves time unloading and re-loading them
overall layer control is improved - easier filtering


Thank you for the tip!  :-D

I've Learnt so much with you guys.