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CAD Forums => CAD General => Topic started by: Andrea on June 23, 2015, 12:43:20 PM

Title: Block insertion point..
Post by: Andrea on June 23, 2015, 12:43:20 PM
I think this is an autoCAD issue..

Hi all,..
a friend show me a strange result with block insertion..

there it is..

1) use "insert" command and select any block.
2) uncheck the "Insertion Point" and "Scale" option...but keep the "Rotation" Checked. (see image)
3) Insert your block and see the result.

Insertion coordinate will take the cursor position instead of specified coordinates points.
I think that weird result is an issue.
(tested on 2015 and 2016)

INSBASE and BASE set to 0,0,0

so I just need to know if any of you have same result..

thank you. :)
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: Rob... on June 23, 2015, 01:05:32 PM
Does this happen with any block? I tried it in 2014 and it works as expected.

Could it be that the "basepoint" assigned in the block is not at (0,0)?
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: mjfarrell on June 23, 2015, 01:09:14 PM
check base point of block definition...if NOT 0,0
Fix it with block editor
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: Hugo on June 23, 2015, 01:10:23 PM
Ja hier auch das Problem
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: Rob... on June 23, 2015, 01:11:14 PM
Quote from: mjfarrell on June 23, 2015, 01:09:14 PM
check base point of block definition...if NOT 0,0
Fix it with block editor

Thanks for clearing that up.
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: Andrea on June 23, 2015, 01:20:38 PM
nope...

Block units is unitless, insertion point is good..INSUNITS, DEFSOURCE and DEFTARGET are ok...
INSBSE and BASE variable also..0,0,0.
eaven if the coordinate is not 0,0,0...the issue still.

Hugo seem to have same issue,

If you unselect the Rotation...all work great.
see animated gif below..
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: Rob... on June 23, 2015, 01:23:17 PM
That is odd. Looks like a bug.
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: mjfarrell on June 23, 2015, 01:26:19 PM
that the rotation snaps to 0,0 and not insert (base) point of the block seems to indicate to me that the block definition is poor.

Make a NEW block being sure to define a GOOD base point....and try again
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: Andrea on June 23, 2015, 01:29:36 PM
Nope...

Bug is real...
tested with new block,..the problem occur in 2015 and 2016 only..
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: Lee Mac on June 23, 2015, 01:34:03 PM
Confirmed in 2015 - looks to be a bug.
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: Andrea on June 23, 2015, 01:49:23 PM
Quote from: Lee Mac on June 23, 2015, 01:34:03 PM
Confirmed in 2015 - looks to be a bug.

thank you to confirm. :)
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: mjfarrell on June 23, 2015, 02:13:16 PM
Quote from: Andrea on June 23, 2015, 01:49:23 PM
Quote from: Lee Mac on June 23, 2015, 01:34:03 PM
Confirmed in 2015 - looks to be a bug.

thank you to confirm. :)

AMAZING!

After all these years Autodesk BROKE the Block Insert Command!  Awesome results for your subscription 'investment' in their product development efforts!
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: ronjonp on June 23, 2015, 03:03:48 PM
Quote from: mjfarrell on June 23, 2015, 02:13:16 PM
Quote from: Andrea on June 23, 2015, 01:49:23 PM
Quote from: Lee Mac on June 23, 2015, 01:34:03 PM
Confirmed in 2015 - looks to be a bug.

thank you to confirm. :)

AMAZING!

After all these years Autodesk BROKE the Block Insert Command!  Awesome results for your subscription 'investment' in their product development efforts!


Start your blog already .. looks like http://ihateautodesk.com/ is available.
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: Matt__W on June 23, 2015, 04:05:58 PM
Quote from: Andrea on June 23, 2015, 01:20:38 PM
nope...

Block units is unitless, insertion point is good..INSUNITS, DEFSOURCE and DEFTARGET are ok...
INSBSE and BASE variable also..0,0,0.
eaven if the coordinate is not 0,0,0...the issue still.

Hugo seem to have same issue,

If you unselect the Rotation...all work great.
see animated gif below..
It's placing the block at the location of the cursor prior to starting the block command.
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: Daniel J. Ellis on June 24, 2015, 08:19:14 AM
Do you have dynamic input turned on?

Does this affect its behaviour?

dJE
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: Rod on June 29, 2015, 11:39:25 PM
Occurs regardless of the point in space (as long as insertion point "specify on screen" is not checked)
Occurs whether you have scale or rotation or both set to "specify on screen".
Doesn't occur when explode is checked (but there is no ghost/jig)

Funny that the rubber band comes from the correct insertion point.

Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: huiz on June 30, 2015, 04:35:16 AM
In 2014 it works as expected, in 2016 it is not. Weird bug...
Title: Re: Block insertion point..
Post by: Kerry on June 30, 2015, 06:42:34 AM
Andrea,
Have you reported this to AutoDesk ?