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Title: Plot from the layout
Post by: Fabricio28 on January 06, 2015, 03:48:32 PM
Hi guys,
I'm using autocad since 2012.
And I've never plotted my projects from the paperspace.
I used to plot from the model space, and I think it is easier than layout.

But I'd to asking for your comments about it.

Regards
Fabricio
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: ronjonp on January 06, 2015, 04:07:31 PM
Hi guys,
I'm using autocad since 2012.
And I've never plotted my projects from the paperspace.
I used to plot from the model space, and I think it is easier than layout.

But I'd to asking for your comments about it.

Regards
Fabricio

 :?  Having plot sheets in modelspace went out many moons ago ( 2000 ish ? ). I can't imagine how it would be easier with all the tools we have now.
PUBLISH (http://help.autodesk.com/view/CIV3D/2015/ENU/?guid=GUID-EE9F55FF-D253-4AEC-B95B-69DA4EBE90E8)
SHEETSETS (http://help.autodesk.com/view/CIV3D/2015/ENU/?guid=GUID-34D889BC-19AD-4CD1-ADB1-F359D9B515FB)
PLOTTABS (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=1916.0) :)
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: mjfarrell on January 06, 2015, 04:23:31 PM
look into setting up NAMED PAGE SETUPS your plotting life will be made so much easier...no more guessing, no more windows, no more extents.....just plotting bliss.
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Rob... on January 06, 2015, 04:36:36 PM
This topic has been discussed hundreds of times. It used to be a "hot" topic but that heat has dissipated about which to use with a vast majority of people using layouts. Putting title blocks in model space is considered "old school" for a reason. The differing opinions now are on how much to put in paper space.

What it really comes down to is what works for you.

If you are producing professional drawings that have multiple scales on the same sheet of paper, using paper space is a no brainer.

If you are producing professional design drawings that are to a scale, using paper space is a no brainer.

If you are drawing pretty pictures, you are probably using the wrong program, but plotting from model space is probably for you.

etc...
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: dgorsman on January 06, 2015, 07:23:44 PM
If you are producing schematic type drawings, model space is probably still the best bet, more so if you have a few thousand legacy drawings done that way already and/or a vertical or third-party tool only functions in model space.
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: tombu on January 07, 2015, 08:24:03 AM
Hi guys,
I'm using autocad since 2012.
And I've never plotted my projects from the paperspace.
I used to plot from the model space, and I think it is easier than layout.

Regards
Fabricio
It depends on what type of work you do.  Paper Space has been around since r11, I started 22 years ago with r12 plotting with Paper Space.  Others say schematic type drawings are easier in Model Space, but never having done one I couldn't say.

What type of drawings do you do?
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Bethrine on January 07, 2015, 09:07:56 AM
Not much difference to me really. The difference is mainly that in model space you are 1:1 scale and must adjust layers on and off for each plot. In paper space you can set a different scale and set layers (permanently per viewport) so you can just plot. I like, too, that I never have to adjust my text or leader style because if I put them in paper space  they are all "standard". Paperspace gives you more options without having to adjust a finished drawing. I have opened model space only drawings and created a layout and plotted from that just so I didn't have to mess with the original drawing and because, to me, plotting from a layout is easier. imo
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Fabricio28 on January 07, 2015, 09:31:06 AM
Thank you for all comments!!  :-)

I'm attaching a project example.

I don't think the paperspace will be easier than model space (for that project).

Maybe if I create only the project and the model space and the other specification like tables, details and so on I put in paper space.
It will be nice!

Regards
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Mark on January 07, 2015, 09:58:27 AM
I like, too, that I never have to adjust my text or leader style because if I put them in paper space  they are all "standard".
I like that too! However, with the verticals that isn't an option. :)
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Bethrine on January 07, 2015, 09:59:26 AM
Maybe if I create only the project and the model space and the other specification like tables, details and so on I put in paper space.

That's what I do. :-)
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Bethrine on January 07, 2015, 10:02:18 AM
I like, too, that I never have to adjust my text or leader style because if I put them in paper space  they are all "standard".
I like that too! However, with the verticals that isn't an option. :)

You lost me there.  :blink: I thought I knew this but...what exactly is a vertical and why would it not be an option? (We are talking about AutoCAD??)
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: dgorsman on January 07, 2015, 10:08:05 AM
Vertical AutoCAD products are those built on top of the core AutoCAD - Map3D, Mechanical, Civil3D, AutoCAD Electrical, and so on.
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Fabricio28 on January 07, 2015, 10:54:15 AM
Maybe if I create only the project and the model space and the other specification like tables, details and so on I put in paper space.

That's what I do. :-)

Could send me a project example in paperspace?

Thanks
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Bethrine on January 07, 2015, 11:42:19 AM
Sure...
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Fabricio28 on January 07, 2015, 12:08:17 PM
I can't open in autocad 2012.

Could you save in the previous version, please?

Regards
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Bethrine on January 07, 2015, 12:40:41 PM
2010

If that doesn't work let me know what will.  :-)
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Fabricio28 on January 07, 2015, 01:07:51 PM
Perfect my friend!!

I'll try to use layout. It seems to be good

Thank you
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Bethrine on January 07, 2015, 01:32:42 PM
Perfect my friend!!

I'll try to use layout. It seems to be good

Thank you

You are most welcome! Glad I could help.  :-)
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: RAYAKMAL on January 08, 2015, 01:19:49 AM
Here's a sample of my project.
A lot easier if I use paper space.
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Fabricio28 on January 10, 2015, 01:55:53 PM
Here's a sample of my project.
A lot easier if I use paper space.

Thank you for sharing your project.
I agree if you in that case is a lot of easier use paper space. I can't imagine plot all of this is model.  :-o

Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Fabricio28 on January 22, 2015, 02:39:37 PM
Guys,
I'm trying to plot in layout.
How Can I freeze a layer just for layout?

Regards
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Rob... on January 22, 2015, 02:45:14 PM
Guys,
I'm trying to plot in layout.
How Can I freeze a layer just for layout?

Regards

There are a number of viewport layer tools that also work on the layout as well as the viewport(s).

Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: CAB on January 22, 2015, 03:04:52 PM
Question: are you trying to freeze a layer on Layout space or within a view port in a layout?
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Rob... on January 22, 2015, 03:07:17 PM
Question: are you trying to freeze a layer on Layout space or within a view port in a layout?

VP Freeze works for both.
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Bethrine on January 22, 2015, 03:33:59 PM
Question: are you trying to freeze a layer on Layout space or within a view port in a layout?

VP Freeze works for both.

That explains a lot.  I didn't know that.:whistling:
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Fabricio28 on January 22, 2015, 03:35:18 PM
Guys,
I'm trying to freeze xref layer.



Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Rob... on January 22, 2015, 03:36:29 PM
What's stopping you?
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Fabricio28 on January 22, 2015, 03:42:57 PM
What's stopping you?

it isn't freezing the layers. i don't knw what to do.
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Rob... on January 22, 2015, 03:46:16 PM
For layers in a viewport:
Make the viewport active.
Open the layer manager.
Find layer.
Click the icon under VP Freeze.

For layers in the layout:
Open the layer manager.
Find layer.
Click the icon under VP Freeze.
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Fabricio28 on January 22, 2015, 03:51:42 PM
For layers in a viewport:
Make the viewport active.
Open the layer manager.
Find layer.
Click the icon under VP Freeze.

For layers in the layout:
Open the layer manager.
Find layer.
Click the icon under VP Freeze.

Thank you very much!! :)
Title: Re: Plot from the layout
Post by: Fabricio28 on January 22, 2015, 03:52:29 PM
Guys,
I'm trying to plot in layout.
How Can I freeze a layer just for layout?

Regards

There are a number of viewport layer tools that also work on the layout as well as the viewport(s).

I forgot to open the viewport to freeze.

Thank you too! :)