TheSwamp
CAD Forums => Vertically Challenged => Land Lubber / Geographically Positioned => Topic started by: MSTG007 on August 06, 2014, 08:14:11 AM
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Is there an easier approach to edit a cogo point rather than right clicking and going thru the panorama window. Specially when your copying spots around? I did not know if there was a lisp or something where I could select the cogo spot and change the elevation directly and be done with it?
thanks
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Properties Window?
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Try this:
(defun c:cogoelev (/ ele n ss)
(if (and (setq ele (getreal "\Enter elevation: "))
(setq ss (ssget ":L" '((0 . "AECC_COGO_POINT"))))
)
(repeat (setq n (sslength ss))
(vla-put-elevation (vlax-ename->vla-object (ssname ss (setq n (1- n)))) ele)
)
)
(princ)
)
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Boom! Sweet. Thank you for sharing!
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Boom! Sweet. Thank you for sharing!
:)
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Is there an easier approach to edit a cogo point rather than right clicking and going thru the panorama window. Specially when your copying spots around? I did not know if there was a lisp or something where I could select the cogo spot and change the elevation directly and be done with it?
thanks
This would indicate you are using an incorrect method.
Whenever I set points, there is no need to edit elevations on them.
So I must ask what method are you using that then forces you to edit them?
Granted you now have the 'coded' solution; however why not fix your process?
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Let me share with you. I am working with another department. they use cogo points to create there surfaces. So they copy the cogo points around and then manually edit them. Not to fun. But it is tedious..
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Let me share with you. I am working with another department. they use cogo points to create their surfaces. So they copy the cogo points around and then manually edit them. Not to fun. But it is tedious..
They are doing it so very wrong.....
Why on this blue green planet do they not use feature lines?
Are they perhaps myopic cyclops?
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shu.... be respectful. lol
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Why on this blue green planet do they not use feature lines?
you don't use points?
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Why on this blue green planet do they not use feature lines?
you don't use points?
If I am doing site grading design and a lot of other grading design....NO.
Here is the Rule I present to substantiate my position:
Engineers whilst doing design should not 'set points'
Surveyors in the process of staking the design set those points.
So if one is doing design the vast majority of the time NO POINTS are used...It is all feature lines.
Need a ow spot for a drainage grate - use rectangular feature line to set the grades....this way when you do pipes the inlet is at grade and creates a semi-automatic (dynamic) pipe design process as well.
Need a flow line....use a feature line
There are very rare instances where one may want to use a(n) individual point to control grading, however
you will discover that a 10X efficiency is gained by NOT using points to define design surfaces.
Later when it's time to build the surveyors can worry over setting ONLY those few points they need to give the contractors what is needed to construct. Or as the case with most of our designs, they simply use the feature lines (exported to 3d polylines) and let the grading equipment do it's job. No Points required.
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I agree with what you are saying. Totally. This prompts another question on this... Some people have a 3D file for all there design work and a 2D base file. If you draw in feature lines in for swales do you draw them twice? (Once in the 2d and once in the 3d)? so you would have to remember to move the other line if one were to move.
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I agree with what you are saying. Totally. This prompts another question on this... Some people have a 3D file for all there design work and a 2D base file. If you draw in feature lines in for swales do you draw them twice? (Once in the 2d and once in the 3d)? so you would have to remember to move the other line if one were to move.
The 2d/3d scene is resolved as follows:
The 2d 'geometric layout drawing' is and can be a valid way to draw the site features.
This file is then attached as an XREF; for two (2) reasons.
First no one should be in that file accidentally editing it.
Secondly IF, the layout does change those changes are reflected in the 3d file when it is opened.
In the 3D design file, one uses the Create Featureline from object and utilizes the XREF function to NOT have to draw
those lines a second time.
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Ok. I can see that. So if a building changes with parking. I would update the 2d first. then in the 3d, do a ncopy then convert polyline to feature line and off you go. Makes sense to me.
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Let me share with you. I am working with another department. they use cogo points to create there surfaces. So they copy the cogo points around and then manually edit them. Not to fun. But it is tedious..
FWIW -
Rather than copying & editing points, perhaps 'they' should consider using the CREATEPOINTMANUAL Command, which allows for user specified location, and elevation at COGO Point creation.
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Ok. I can see that. So if a building changes with parking. I would update the 2d first. then in the 3d, do a ncopy then convert polyline to feature line and off you go. Makes sense to me.
NO, you do not do an NCOPY....either edit existing feature lines if it is a simple change OR
use the [XREF] option when you use create feature line from object command.
Command: _AeccCreateFeatureLines
Select lines, arcs, polylines or 3d polylines to convert to feature lines or [Xref]: *Cancel*
This option is available during many C3D commands.
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... Tone it down a bit, yelly spice. :-)
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That's why I do ask the questions. Sometimes its the only way to get it in my head lol :uglystupid2:
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... Tone it down a bit, yelly spice. :-)
That's my outside voice.
Or the one I use when I speak S L O W E R but louder than normal to non-English speakers
hoping that being louder and S L O W E R will somehow help them comprehend words they have never heard before.
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... Tone it down a bit, yelly spice. :-)
That's my outside voice.
Or the one I use when I speak S L O W E R but louder than normal to non-English speakers
hoping that being louder and S L O W E R will somehow help them comprehend words they have never heard before.
Perhaps you have experience interacting with this OP that I do not, however, I see no reason for such... Just speak normally (and provide links?)... They'll learn just fine. (http://www.cadtutor.net/forum/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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... Tone it down a bit, yelly spice. :-)
That's my outside voice.
Or the one I use when I speak S L O W E R but louder than normal to non-English speakers
hoping that being louder and S L O W E R will somehow help them comprehend words they have never heard before.
Perhaps you have experience interacting with this OP that I do not, however, I see no reason for such... Just speak normally (and provide links?)... They'll learn just fine. (http://www.cadtutor.net/forum/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
the above was a small attempt at humour ...
although in the case of the original bold text - as they have most likely seen this particular command line prompt at least 6 times, yet missed the [XREF] option; I felt it was required to use BOLD text to better illuminate the point.
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Hes kinda right. I never did really see that option.
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the above was a small attempt at humour ...
although in the case of the original bold text - as they have most likely seen this particular command line prompt at least 6 times, yet missed the [XREF] option; I felt it was required to use BOLD text to better illuminate the point.
No worries; sometimes you get on a roll, despite offering useful information (I too overlooked the XREF option). That's all.
I'll go back to the peanut gallery. :-)
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hmmm, perhaps the focus should be on content rather than the delivery, the truck, or the driver
don't shoot the messenger, or blow up the delivery wagon, nor the roadway he drives upon
or to borrow a phrase 'this bolds for you' :wink:
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hmmm, perhaps the focus should be on content rather than the delivery, the truck, or the driver
don't shoot the messenger, or blow up the delivery wagon, nor the roadway he drives upon
or to borrow a phrase 'this bolds for you' :wink:
Perhaps there are clients out there that will settle for content, and content alone, professor. :-)
Cheers
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hmmm, perhaps the focus should be on content rather than the delivery, the truck, or the driver
don't shoot the messenger, or blow up the delivery wagon, nor the roadway he drives upon
or to borrow a phrase 'this bolds for you' :wink:
Perhaps there are clients out there that will settle for content, and content alone, professor. :-)
Cheers
there are...
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hmmm, perhaps the focus should be on content rather than the delivery, the truck, or the driver
don't shoot the messenger, or blow up the delivery wagon, nor the roadway he drives upon
or to borrow a phrase 'this bolds for you' :wink:
Perhaps there are clients out there that will settle for content, and content alone, professor. :-)
Cheers
there are...
... Here's to those tired of settling, becoming your new clients. (http://www.cadtutor.net/forum/images/smilies/beer.gif)
Be your best. ;o)