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Title: Disappearing survey points
Post by: Bob Garner on December 04, 2003, 11:32:40 AM

Hello all,

I received a drawing from a surveyor who I'm sure is using LDD.  When I opened the drawing on my computer (a non LDD workstation) the survey points did not show up.  By survey points, I mean those little X's with an elevation callout.  But when I opened the drawing on an LDD workstation, the survey points were visible.

I don't know much about LDD.  Is there a way of turning something on so I can view these points on my non LDD workstation?

Thanks in advance.

Bob G.

Title: Disappearing survey points
Post by: Mark on December 04, 2003, 11:39:50 AM

You might be able to use a "Object Enabler" from Adesk.

http://tinyurl.com/xpy6

Title: Disappearing survey points
Post by: Dent Cermak on December 04, 2003, 11:53:59 AM

Also make sure that layers PNTS, DESC and ELEV are turned on. You say "little X with elevations", technical name for those puppies is "spot shots", so also check that layers PNTS (The "X") and another layer - either ELEV or maybe SPOTS , is turned on.
The old Softdesk point blocks are not AEC object, but the new LDD points may be, but if you are both on LDD, you should see tham.
DANG, now I'm confused!!

Title: Disappearing survey points
Post by: Bob Garner on December 04, 2003, 12:39:22 PM

Thanks for the replies.

The spot shots are on a layer named EXTO-PTS.  When I open the drawing in my non LDD workstation, that layer is there and is turned on, but there is nothing on the layer.  When I open the drawing in an LDD equipped workstation, the spot shots are on that layer and appear in the drawing.  Apparently it's possible to set up a layer in LDD that wont show on a non LDD workstation?

Thanx again.

Bob G.

Title: Disappearing survey points
Post by: Mark on December 04, 2003, 12:48:47 PM

>Apparently it's possible to set up a layer in LDD
>that wont show on a non LDD workstation?

I believe it has to do with the fact the points are AECC opjects. Did you try D/L'ing one of the enablers?

Title: Disappearing survey points
Post by: Bob Garner on December 04, 2003, 01:15:58 PM

Mark & Dent, I think you've got it.

I tried to open the drawing in VoloView and got the message that the drawing contained custom ARX objects and I should download Object Enablers.

Mystery solved and the next Beer's on me.

Have a good day!!

Bob G.

Title: Disappearing survey points
Post by: Keith™ on December 04, 2003, 02:50:23 PM

There you have it...

Now perhaps I am a bit unconventional, but if Autodesk is going to support custom objects by allowing free downloads of object enablers (to see the blocks) then why don't they just include them on the installation CD??

Title: Disappearing survey points
Post by: Dent Cermak on December 04, 2003, 03:42:59 PM

Because that would be logical.

Title: Disappearing survey points
Post by: t-bear on December 04, 2003, 03:45:37 PM

They want you to have to hunt for them....maybe while you're at their site, ALL PISSED OFF, you just might buy something....riiiiiiiiggght!