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CAD Forums => CAD General => Topic started by: rkmcswain on March 22, 2011, 09:32:01 AM
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For those interested, here is a summary of some of the new features in AutoCAD 2012:
http://cadpanacea.com/node/295 (http://cadpanacea.com/node/295)
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Oh nooo! They removed Blipmode!!! :cry:
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Raster file support has been expanded to include several new file formats, including MrSID, ECW, and JPEG2000.
Excellent ....
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The new ARRAY is very stylish. I like the command line auto-search too. Maybe now I will slowly start adopting the Ribbon since it seems to have been finely tuned in performance.
I have to say I'm excited for some of these additions.
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That Array functionality looks familiar...
http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=37459.msg425111#msg425111 (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=37459.msg425111#msg425111)
And the 'path' mode looks like it'll render some of our LISP programs obsolete...
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That Array functionality looks familiar...
http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=37459.msg425111#msg425111 (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=37459.msg425111#msg425111)
And the 'path' mode looks like it'll render some of our LISP programs obsolete...
My first thought with some of the upgrades, such as array, copy, fillet, was that "Hey, they've been watching what some of the Swamp gurus have been doing with grread!"
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That Array functionality looks familiar...
http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=37459.msg425111#msg425111 (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=37459.msg425111#msg425111)
And the 'path' mode looks like it'll render some of our LISP programs obsolete...
My first thought with some of the upgrades, such as array, copy, fillet, was that "Hey, they've been watching what some of the Swamp gurus have been doing with grread!"
:lmao:
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Multiple search paths for PC3 and CTB! Multiple client serving companies rejoice! :love:
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sincerely not impressed
if this is in anyway indicative of what the C3D user can expect from 2012, some of you might want to just IGNORE me right now, or if you already are, IGNORE me again already.....
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sincerely not impressed
if this is in anyway indicative of what the C3D user can expect from 2012, some of you might want to just IGNORE me right now, or if you already are, IGNORE me again already.....
Okay Debbie Downer... who pissed in your Cheerios this morning? :roll:
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sincerely not impressed
if this is in anyway indicative of what the C3D user can expect from 2012, some of you might want to just IGNORE me right now, or if you already are, IGNORE me again already.....
Okay Debbie Downer... who pissed in your Cheerios this morning? :roll:
Perhaps it is all the beef I ate in south Dakota last week, I've got Mad Cow Disease.
From my read, the only good news is the lack of DWG format change.
Everything else reads a lot like a much needed Service Pack, than a Release Chock Full of NEW!
Perhaps I should just go buy a pair of Fan Boy Pants, Polo, and Tinted Glasses?
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I have to agree with Michael. It seems like they ran out of ideas so they 'fixed' a few old commands and slapped a 2012 label on it.
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Raster file support has been expanded to include several new file formats, including MrSID, ECW, and JPEG2000.
Excellent ....
Agreed!
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I have to agree with Michael. It seems like they ran out of ideas so they 'fixed' a few old commands and slapped a 2012 label on it.
That's pretty much what I see.
However, that's kind of in keeping with their general cycle of changes, year to year, and should have been expected. Sucks, but I assumed it was coming. This was the year for general bug fixes, performance upgrades, and command feature-tweaking. Happened 3 years ago, it'll happen 3 years from now as well.
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I have to agree with Michael. It seems like they ran out of ideas so they 'fixed' a few old commands and slapped a 2012 label on it.
That's pretty much what I see.
However, that's kind of in keeping with their general cycle of changes, year to year, and should have been expected. Sucks, but I assumed it was coming. This was the year for general bug fixes, performance upgrades, and command feature-tweaking. Happened 3 years ago, it'll happen 3 years from now as well.
Maybe if they'd stopped trying to put out an annual release and just release when a version is ready, they might be in better shape. I remember a time when it didn't come out every year.
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What, first there was complaining about too much new stuff each year without fixing, now there's complaining that there isn't *enough* new stuff and *too much* fixing?? :?
Its a good point about the three-year cycle - they are at the end of the current one so it doesn't make much sense to make big changes. If they follow the previous schedule there should be a major revamp of the core in the next cycle along with a new DWG format, and that is where I expect the big things to come about.
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What, first there was complaining about too much new stuff each year without fixing, now there's complaining that there isn't *enough* new stuff and *too much* fixing?? :?
Its a good point about the three-year cycle - they are at the end of the current one so it doesn't make much sense to make big changes. If they follow the previous schedule there should be a major revamp of the core in the next cycle along with a new DWG format, and that is where I expect the big things to come about.
Then why not do a new release every three years and offer an annual updated bag of goodies for the in between years?
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Alright, here are a few things to note about 2012:
- Many begged to have existing features and performance fixed first, this was done, so I would not complain about that. Yes, it might seem more like a service pack worthy slate of features when looking at the list, but there is enough to warrant a new release.
- The array command has no interface during creation (there is a ribbon interface for modifying arrays that has already been created), which leaves a lot of room for the developers on here to make some money by making one.
- In addition, there are bugs in the array command, which can be worked around, again making an interface will help a lot of people and an enterprising person could make money off of it.
- Performance has GREATLY improved.
- Even with the bugs and missing interface
- Those items that have been "discontinued", such has BlipMode, ScreenMenu and such can be restored by using the redefine command.
- Content Explorer - Only works on Windows based servers, will not index external hard drives. Since we currently do not use a Windows based server, I have not used this feature, but seems to work well otherwise.
- AutoDesk Exchange - CAD/IT Manager Warning: When the Apps tab launches, there will most likely not be anything you can do to prevent users from using the Apps Tab, except block the site entirely, which means that your users will be forced to use offline help. That being said, for the CAD Manager it is nice to have Apps listed in one place.
- Viewport Controls - One of the best new features, which is barely getting any play are the viewport controls that are now in the drawing canvass, meaning, you can quickly change your views without switching to a new ribbon tab or having another toolbar taking up space.
- Direct UCS Manipulation - You can change your UCS by manipulating the UCS icon. Again, this is getting very little play, but it my opinion is one of the better features in these release.
- Nudge - You can nudge objects by using the arrow keysImplied selections - When you pick a point outside an object, in addition to windows, you can now access Fences, Window and Crossing Polygones.
- Groups have been streamlined and are now a lot easier to use.
- Command Line Autocomplete - As you type commands are suggested. This feature is very snappy and it will include custom aliases and LISP routines in the suggestions.
- They have fixed some problems with the Ribbon and missing commands, and such.
- There are greatly improved grips on dimensions, still some things would be nice to have, but they make editing dimensions much easier.
- Various improvements to loading LISP routines
Again, these are just a few quick notes on AutoCAD 2012 and is not a complete list by any means a complete or detailed list, which I am sure will come out later.
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What, first there was complaining about too much new stuff each year without fixing, now there's complaining that there isn't *enough* new stuff and *too much* fixing?? :?
Its a good point about the three-year cycle - they are at the end of the current one so it doesn't make much sense to make big changes. If they follow the previous schedule there should be a major revamp of the core in the next cycle along with a new DWG format, and that is where I expect the big things to come about.
Then why not do a new release every three years and offer an annual updated bag of goodies for the in between years?
It all comes down to money, the stock holders rule, as they are who pay their salaries, so they get what they want.
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The MrSid file format support will be great once Map 2012 comes out!
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What, first there was complaining about too much new stuff each year without fixing, now there's complaining that there isn't *enough* new stuff and *too much* fixing?? :?
Its a good point about the three-year cycle - they are at the end of the current one so it doesn't make much sense to make big changes. If they follow the previous schedule there should be a major revamp of the core in the next cycle along with a new DWG format, and that is where I expect the big things to come about.
Then why not do a new release every three years and offer an annual updated bag of goodies for the in between years?
It all comes down to money, the stock holders rule, as they are who pay their salaries, so they get what they want.
Yeah, sadly, I already knew the answer. It's just frustrating how the prospect of making more money outweighs the desire to release a good, solid and bug free product for the public.
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What, first there was complaining about too much new stuff each year without fixing, now there's complaining that there isn't *enough* new stuff and *too much* fixing?? :?
Its a good point about the three-year cycle - they are at the end of the current one so it doesn't make much sense to make big changes. If they follow the previous schedule there should be a major revamp of the core in the next cycle along with a new DWG format, and that is where I expect the big things to come about.
Then why not do a new release every three years and offer an annual updated bag of goodies for the in between years?
Perception in the current market. Other companies are releasing "new" product every year, suddenly AutoCAD looks like its sitting still by comparison. Or even worse, it looks like a really bad, bug-ridden product that is so bad they have to spend three years to get right and can only fix problems in the meantime. Meanwhile the competition is touting "Hey look at all our new stuff!" even if that too is buggy - they just don't advertise it.
Lets face it guys - those who control the majority of purchasing of AutoDesk product are *not* us. They are managers and executives who don't understand the technical side and only talk with us when there is a problem. That is who the product is marketed towards so the marketing has to be trendy, it has to be simple to understand. We are just the ones who have to make it work.
Can any company the size of AutoDesk get away without doing 'major' yearly releases? If so, how?
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The HOW is simple, create a bug free feature rich product to start with.
Then whenever you do create a NEW version be sure it too is bug free and features the functions the users actually want!
Like a Ribbon that isn't broken when first introduced. Like pipes that work as people actually design pipes.
Map interoperability with Civil 3D objects so we can really get our Civil BIM on.
Trust me people would wait for such a product.
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Trust me people would wait for such a product.
I would. Hell, every company I've ever worked for only upgrades every 2-3 releases anyway.
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- Nudge - You can nudge objects by using the arrow keysImplied selections - When you pick a point outside an object, in addition to windows, you can now access Fences, Window and Crossing Polygones.
AWESOME!! Revit has had it for years! BEST. COMMAND. EVER!!
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Trust me people would wait for such a product.
I would. Hell, every company I've ever worked for only upgrades every 2-3 releases anyway.
That's what we do. Even on subscription.
I hate to join in this thread re-direction so I'll stop there.
I haven't looked yet, but it sounds like there are a few interesting new features.
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The only new feature of interest to me at this point in time is the Blend command. The rest of that stuff is just fluff.
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Also Civil3D is announced: http://usa.autodesk.com/civil-3d/features/
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Also Civil3D is announced: http://usa.autodesk.com/civil-3d/features/
Here's a look at it by a user:
http://blog.civil3dreminders.com/
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Fixes to most currently broken or missing features
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- Nudge - You can nudge objects by using the arrow keysImplied selections - When you pick a point outside an object, in addition to windows, you can now access Fences, Window and Crossing Polygones.
AWESOME!! Revit has had it for years! BEST. COMMAND. EVER!!
You will not like the Autocad version: It creates 'bad' drawings, because the distance is almost random. :realmad: :ugly:
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- Nudge - You can nudge objects by using the arrow keysImplied selections - When you pick a point outside an object, in addition to windows, you can now access Fences, Window and Crossing Polygones.
AWESOME!! Revit has had it for years! BEST. COMMAND. EVER!!
You will not like the Autocad version: It creates 'bad' drawings, because the distance is almost random. :realmad: :ugly:
Same with Revit. The farther out you're zoomed, the greater the nudge distance. The tighter the zoom, the smaller the nudge distance. (if that's the way it works in AutoCAD) It's still a great tool.
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- Nudge - You can nudge objects by using the arrow keysImplied selections - When you pick a point outside an object, in addition to windows, you can now access Fences, Window and Crossing Polygones.
AWESOME!! Revit has had it for years! BEST. COMMAND. EVER!!
You will not like the Autocad version: It creates 'bad' drawings, because the distance is almost random. :realmad: :ugly:
Same with Revit. The farther out you're zoomed, the greater the nudge distance. The tighter the zoom, the smaller the nudge distance. (if that's the way it works in AutoCAD) It's still a great tool.
Why is it a great tool? I can't think of any time I've ever wanted to move something an unspecified amount, save for moving crap out of the way while I needed to change something it was attached to - just to move it back into place later. For instance I just moved a segment of this header out of the way so I could rearrange the order of this ball valve, coupler, check valve, pcv, coupler - add a 45d wye, and then I moved the pipe stubs back in place and shortened the one that needed shortened. It was easier to work with it off to the side out of the way.
Why do you nudge things? Curious
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Why do you nudge things? Curious
To make the ducts fit between the steel, pipes, cable trays, light fixtures, rated walls, conduits.... When you're modeling in a 3D view and you see all of this "stuff" around you, you don't necessarily know how many inches left, right, up, down to move something. It's easier to "nudge" it into place. You're trying to make it all fit. It's not like the sheet metal guys are measuring off the plans... "Okay, let's see here... 2 feet... 3 and 17/32 of an inch. Got it Louie?!!?"
Structural is more accurate... not much nudging going on there. Lighting... well, they line up with the grid so.... nudging is a no-no. UNLESS... they're wall sconces or emergency wall packs.
The nice thing about nudging (in Revit) is that everything stays connected.
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Ah, yea, duct work and other field fab'd stuff... yea, totally wasn't thinking outside my own box.
I try to keep all dimensions 'rounded' so I always move things. I don't want ridiculous dimensions showing up when I pull them on plans. I want nice numbers. The only exception is when it's forced such as when I want the Bottom of Pipe to all line up, but need to label pipe centerline elevations... obviously is not going to work out nicely - especially with multiple pipe sizes on that row.
Yea, I can definitely see how you'd want that, I guess. :) move could be a few more clicks I and invite accidental-snapping to objects that throws things -way- off.
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I can't think of any time I've ever wanted to move something an unspecified amount
Ditto.
That's also why I can not understand the apparent fascination with so called 'dynamic' tools. If I wanted stuff dynamic I'd take up graffiti.
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I can't think of any time I've ever wanted to move something an unspecified amount
Ditto.
That's also why I can not understand the apparent fascination with so called 'dynamic' tools. If I wanted stuff dynamic I'd take up graffiti.
I've used dynamic blocks and grips a lot. I love them. I use dynamic blocks to quickly change pipe size, because my boss hasn't got off his butt to buy me CADWorx. I use them to consolidate block libraries for quicker/easier use and later replacement. I use dynamic linear grips with incremental (emphasis there) distances to have standard details for foundations and typical sections. I use dynamic grips on 3D objects that can have them for quick and easy modification that saves me LOTS of steps that would previously have required a foray into the SOLIDEDIT command and a lot of typing.
They can also be coupled with numeric input to be both dynamic and calculated. So there is that.
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James,
I wasn't referring to dynamic blocks ; they have a legitinate role in accurate drawings
I meant the 'dynamic' tools where objects get placed/scaled/located/arrayed in a non-consistant arbitary fashion.
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I can envision that 'auto complete' function to be just as functional as CLIPPY ever was.
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James,
I wasn't referring to dynamic blocks ; they have a legitinate role in accurate drawings
I meant the 'dynamic' tools where objects get placed/scaled/located/arrayed in a non-consistant arbitary fashion.
Oh these new copy and array things. Sorry, I totally misunderstood.
I am still uncertain of their usage.
However, a parametric array has potential, I think. Whether it be a pile spacing for a foundation layout, or possibly... hhm. I am having trouble thinking of appropriate applications, honestly. It seems to me that it would be 'smart' to create an array that is parametric though, rather than simply copying things in two axes and never again having them being grouped/linked in any way. I can't recall WHY, but I -can- recall making a block of a large array of items so that I could isolate and edit the pattern in the block editor as a way to fix things on the back end. However, that was more of a "this one needs to move over... this one needs to be deleted... we need 3 piles at this node, actually" type of thing, which is outside the scope of a parametric array.
I don't know. It could be that I 'got nothin' on this one.
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I am a bit curious to ask you folks some questions about 2012.
First thing I am noticing about 2011, unusually long file saves to 2007 format, even with INDEXCTL set to 0.
Has anyone else noticed this? If so, does it seem improved?
Some things I wish would be fixed that have been an issue for a very long time or in 2011:
1.) Audit command, pass 2, extremely long pauses with no indication if its really working for users.
Often times when this occurs, windows 7 states the program is not responding.
Watching system resources there seems to be nothing utilized when audit seemingly hangs at this point.
2.) XREF manager, why can't I highlight and copy the previous path and filename to copy and paste then abbreviate instead of manually typing it?
Always seemed a bit useless to display and not have it able to utilize.
3.) ability to turn off Comm Center seemed to be removed in 2011.
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Raster file support has been expanded to include several new file formats, including MrSID, ECW, and JPEG2000.
Excellent ....
It has always been there. Just install the raster object enabler.
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Raster file support has been expanded to include several new file formats, including MrSID, ECW, and JPEG2000.
Excellent ....
It has always been there. Just install the raster object enabler.
Dude! That's, like, extra work. :roll:
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Raster file support has been expanded to include several new file formats, including MrSID, ECW, and JPEG2000.
Excellent ....
It has always been there. Just install the raster object enabler.
I know but now I don't have to. 8-)
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Raster file support has been expanded to include several new file formats, including MrSID, ECW, and JPEG2000.
Excellent ....
It has always been there. Just install the raster object enabler.
Dude! That's, like, extra work. :roll:
True.
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Raster file support has been expanded to include several new file formats, including MrSID, ECW, and JPEG2000.
Excellent ....
It has always been there. Just install the raster object enabler.
"Just" is the word our wives use to minimize the jobs they want us to do in an attempt to make them sound quick and easy.
"I just want this window to be bigger."
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Raster file support has been expanded to include several new file formats, including MrSID, ECW, and JPEG2000.
Excellent ....
It has always been there. Just install the raster object enabler.
"Just" is the word our wives use to minimize the jobs they want us to do in an attempt to make them sound quick and easy.
"I just want this window to be bigger."
Very very true... :-)
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How fast is the response when you click on the "Big A"
ACA 2010 for me has a really slow response. 5 to 10 seconds
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How fast is the response when you click on the "Big A"
ACA 2010 for me has a really slow response. 5 to 10 seconds
same here. never figured out why, but it's fixed in 2011. I stayed in 2010 though because the Autodorks fracked up the 3Dconnexion joy in 2011.
It better be fixed in 2012... :pissed:
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How fast is the response when you click on the "Big A"
ACA 2010 for me has a really slow response. 5 to 10 seconds
same here. never figured out why, but it's fixed in 2011. I stayed in 2010 though because the Autodorks fracked up the 3Dconnexion joy in 2011.
It better be fixed in 2012... :pissed:
Thanks. It is the sole reason I do not use the "Big A". It is shame I like using once it decides to wake up.
BTW I would not have a clue of the Greek 3D thing-ma-jig you mention. 3D what the heck is that? Must be some Star Trek reference. :roll: :-P
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For those interested, here is a summary of some of the new features in AutoCAD 2012:
http://cadpanacea.com/node/295 (http://cadpanacea.com/node/295)
Did they add multi-core processing?
MJP
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So far, many of my routines and general performance is really running wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than 2011.
The SaveAs 2007 runs like it used to, quick as can be. Beginning to wonder if a reg cleaner messed up 2011 though.
But so far thumbs up for 2012!
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For those interested, here is a summary of some of the new features in AutoCAD 2012:
http://cadpanacea.com/node/295 (http://cadpanacea.com/node/295)
Did they add multi-core processing?
MJP
I heard long time ago that 2011 was design to really take advantage Win7. Sounds link they really got it to work in 2012 instead. But that does not answer your question does it? :roll:
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How fast is the response when you click on the "Big A"
Right after the very first launch of 2012, there is a slight delay (maybe 1/2 second?).
Subsequent clicks are nearly instantaneous.
Subsequent launches of 2012 do not have the initial delay.
See attached.
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How fast is the response when you click on the "Big A"
ACA 2010 for me has a really slow response. 5 to 10 seconds
same here. never figured out why, but it's fixed in 2011. I stayed in 2010 though because the Autodorks fracked up the 3Dconnexion joy in 2011.
It better be fixed in 2012... :pissed:
Thanks. It is the sole reason I do not use the "Big A". It is shame I like using once it decides to wake up.
BTW I would not have a clue of the Greek 3D thing-ma-jig you mention. 3D what the heck is that? Must be some Star Trek reference. :roll: :-P
i used to do a lot more 3D work and THIS (http://www.3dconnexion.com/products/spacenavigator.html) kept my mouse-wheel finger from falling off. Now it's a life-saver just panning and zooming around these huge facility drawings.
Autodork decided it would be a BRILLIANT idea to take over the drivers and screw them up inside 2011. :realmad:
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Wait.. there's problems with the 3dConnexion drivers? Or there -was- and -is- no longer?
I've been eying one of those after being slightly less than thrilled with my n52.
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Wait.. there's problems with the 3dConnexion drivers? Or there -was- and -is- no longer?
I've been eying one of those after being slightly less than thrilled with my n52.
yep. I was contacted about what my experience was and haven't heard since. I'm really annoyed that Autodesk actively messes with the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" laws. I understand when lisp & code 'toys' get brought into the base package, but to take over another company's drivers and NOT make them better? :realmad:
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So what's been the issue/problem?
I'd LOVE to hear what your experience is. :evil:
ETA: also, I've had exactly the same history with those customer surveys :\
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So what's been the issue/problem?
I'd LOVE to hear what your experience is. :evil:
ETA: also, I've had exactly the same history with those customer surveys :\
the motion would sometimes not complete and lock up the session was the worst. at best it would take about 30 seconds to regen between stuttered jumps around the file, and that was a simple 2d drawing with a rectangle and a circle. it was laughable what happened when i actually tried to use it in a REAL drawing.
And before you need to clarify, i worked through all the 'view' options for testing performance, and that WAS the best I could come up with.
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How fast is the response when you click on the "Big A"
Right after the very first launch of 2012, there is a slight delay (maybe 1/2 second?).
Subsequent clicks are nearly instantaneous.
Subsequent launches of 2012 do not have the initial delay.
See attached.
That is certainly faster that what I have.
Thank you sir. Appreciate it very much.
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So what's been the issue/problem?
I'd LOVE to hear what your experience is. :evil:
ETA: also, I've had exactly the same history with those customer surveys :\
the motion would sometimes not complete and lock up the session was the worst. at best it would take about 30 seconds to regen between stuttered jumps around the file, and that was a simple 2d drawing with a rectangle and a circle. it was laughable what happened when i actually tried to use it in a REAL drawing.
And before you need to clarify, i worked through all the 'view' options for testing performance, and that WAS the best I could come up with.
Why don't you just kick me in the nads, why don't you? I was >this< close to telling my bosses to buy me a Spacepilot.
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So what's been the issue/problem?
I'd LOVE to hear what your experience is. :evil:
ETA: also, I've had exactly the same history with those customer surveys :\
the motion would sometimes not complete and lock up the session was the worst. at best it would take about 30 seconds to regen between stuttered jumps around the file, and that was a simple 2d drawing with a rectangle and a circle. it was laughable what happened when i actually tried to use it in a REAL drawing.
And before you need to clarify, i worked through all the 'view' options for testing performance, and that WAS the best I could come up with.
Why don't you just kick me in the nads, why don't you? I was >this< close to telling my bosses to buy me a Spacepilot.
I don't know what the issue is, but i'd still go for it. :angel:
what programs do you use?
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That is certainly faster that what I have.
Thank you sir. Appreciate it very much.
No problem. I should have included switching ribbon tabs, because that is much faster in 2012 also.
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So what's been the issue/problem?
I'd LOVE to hear what your experience is. :evil:
ETA: also, I've had exactly the same history with those customer surveys :\
the motion would sometimes not complete and lock up the session was the worst. at best it would take about 30 seconds to regen between stuttered jumps around the file, and that was a simple 2d drawing with a rectangle and a circle. it was laughable what happened when i actually tried to use it in a REAL drawing.
And before you need to clarify, i worked through all the 'view' options for testing performance, and that WAS the best I could come up with.
Why don't you just kick me in the nads, why don't you? I was >this< close to telling my bosses to buy me a Spacepilot.
I don't know what the issue is, but i'd still go for it. :angel:
what programs do you use?
Autocad right, hopefully with CADWorx soon :\
I got Navisworks FREEDOM but I've been trying to get him the boss to buy me Navisworks MANAGE and he's still been procrastinating.
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I was curious what sort of workstations people have been running 12 on?
I've just been using my i7 core laptop.
But the difference from 11 to 12 seems pretty staggering in performance.
I was getting a bit upset with 11 it seemed to be dragging a lot.
With 12 my own custom setup is screaming fast.
Flies through commands so fast the command line seems to stutter items until I check the command window history.
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I was curious what sort of workstations people have been running 12 on?
Win7x64 | i7-950 @ 3.07GHz | 12GB RAM | FX580
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:-o Nice
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Installing from the deployment I created yesterday, to give the deployment a test-run today and tomorrow:
OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
System Model Precision WorkStation T3500
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU W3530 @ 2.80GHz, 2800 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 6.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 6.00 GB
Name ATI FirePro V5800 (FireGL)
Adapter RAM 1.00 GB (1,073,741,824 bytes)
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:-o Nice
No kidding. :cry:
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When you've only got the one, its not that hard (I have something very similar at home). Doing that for ~ 75 stations, on the other hand, we end up with the Dell.
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When you've only got the one, its not that hard (I have something very similar at home). Doing that for ~ 75 stations, on the other hand, we end up with the Dell.
their work stations seem to be pretty pimp lately. Graduating our CAD stations from their Dimension line was the best improvement ever.
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Sheesh. I am having the -worst- luck with this stuff.
I created a deployment
I ran the appropriate setup to install on my computer from that deployment I created, as it told me
It installs fine
I run Autocad, and get the attached error
I try to repair Autocad, it gives me the same error
I try to reinstall Autocad, it gives me the same error
I uninstall Autocad, reinstall from the deployment setup file
I run Autocad, get the same error
I delete the entirety of the deployment, uninstall Autocad
I create a brand new deployment from the DVD
I install Autocad
I get the same error.
*rage meter pegs 11*
Now I'm in the process of installing straight from the DVD to see what happens.
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Yep, failed that ways too.
Gotta love it. *sigh* :|
Now I get to jump through the subscription help desk hoops.
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Here are two new features I am not sure I like
1.
a. Draw a polyline
b. Explode it
c. Undo command
d. Then hover over polyline
e. Use regen to make polyline look normal again
2. --- 32 bit only
a. Draw a polyline
b. use arcs
c. pedit command
d. Edit vertex
e. Tangent
f. select point
g. CRASH
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Yep, failed that ways too.
Gotta love it. *sigh* :|
Now I get to jump through the subscription help desk hoops.
Stupid question time: did you install .NET Framework v4.0 beforehand, and reboot before installing AutoCAD?
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I noticed you can buy some 2012 products directly from Autodesk website. Has it always been that way or are they starting to fade out resellers?
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Yep, failed that ways too.
Gotta love it. *sigh* :|
Now I get to jump through the subscription help desk hoops.
Stupid question time: did you install .NET Framework v4.0 beforehand, and reboot before installing AutoCAD?
Don't know. I pretty much followed the installation like it told me to, blindly. I did try restarting between every step when able, just in case, and that made no change though :(
I did find this: http://dwf.blogs.com/beyond_the_paper/2009/07/error-adlmpitsetproductinformation-failed-.html http://area.autodesk.com/forum/autodesk-motionbuilder/autodesk-motionbuilder-2009/installation-problem/
in regards to 2010. Going to try that and see how it goes.
BUT DO NOT DO WHAT IS IN THOSE TWO POSTS - DESPITE ONE EVEN BEING A FREAKING AUTODESK BLOG, IT RENDERED PREVIOUS INSTALLATIONS UNABLE TO EXECUTE, AND REQUIRED A REPAIR INSTALLATION
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lmao, talk about EXTREME MEASURES, but I followed the instructions here: http://www.vgionline.com/PageDisplay.asp?p1=27023
Extreme? yes.
Last resort? Absolutely.
Likely a necessary thing after a number of install/uninstalls? I'm thinking so.
Every little quirky problem I ever had is gone. From tool palette issues to the actual ability to run the program - I'm 100% now.
Crappy day turned to YAY.
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Edit-To-Add: I was linked to this, by the Autodesk customer service dude, via email: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=13540825&linkID=12305695 and he pretty much verified that I did the needful, and with the corrupt file that was pointed out to me, I had to basically uninstall/repair all Autodesk products. Glad to know that my extreme measures were, indeed, necessary.
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Sorry for getting off topic there, that's not really 2012 relevant. :oops: :oops:
Back on topic, one thing that's irking me is that they changed the FONT of the command line text. (See Below)
I had to google-fu around the place and figure out WHERE I can change that, just because I was so unfamiliar with it.
It now defaults to the font "CONSOLAS" at the command line, but I don't particularly care for it. It's a bit small, as well.
Under OPTIONS, pick the DISPLAY tab, and in the "Window Elements" area of the the section, there is a button for "Fonts" and you can change it there. I don't recall ever having to change that before, so I had to search around for it.
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I always changed the font to lucida console 8pt in the network loaded profile for the entire company.
Let the command line be smaller and show more data.
Also allowed me to maintain network palette locations.
That is the only way I could control palettes beyond the enterprise cui and workspaces including them.
On a side note....
2012 removed the "Add this folder" option from the places and browse for folder right click menu.
Its now entirely type in manually if I want to add.... sucks. :pissed:
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Just drag the folder over.
I had to replace all my folders on that side bar and just dragged them there. I didn't notice the lack of 'add this folder' I guess.
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Just drag the folder over.
I had to replace all my folders on that side bar and just dragged them there. I didn't notice the lack of 'add this folder' I guess.
:kewl:
i never thought of doing that.
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I noticed you can buy some 2012 products directly from Autodesk website. Has it always been that way or are they starting to fade out resellers?
I believe Autodesk has been selling direct via their website since maybe the 2002 release...?
Can't imagine why anyone would go that route, since you'll pay list price.