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Title: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Harrie on December 05, 2010, 10:40:15 AM
All the links are lost in the new forums.augi.com. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
From Renderman
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Give your Opinion at http://forums.augi.com/index.php/you-cad-do-it/viewthread/53/
Title: Re: In Memoriam Augi
Post by: Lee Mac on December 05, 2010, 01:44:29 PM
What is this, to encourage others to jump on the bandwagon?
Title: Re: In Memoriam Augi
Post by: MP on December 05, 2010, 02:13:21 PM
like they need encouragement (http://www.theswamp.org/screens/mp/poke.gif)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: xiaxiang on December 05, 2010, 08:47:58 PM
It's a terrible thing for me ,because there was a very important post for me  :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Kerry on December 05, 2010, 09:10:05 PM

A lot of people put a lot of effort into peer to peer support there (as at any forum).
It will be an incredible waste of effort if that resource is lost ... irrespective of anyone's personal feelings about the AUGI management/philosophy past or present.
... that's the real shame.

Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: trogg on December 05, 2010, 10:55:05 PM
what a waste of a forum.
I'm looking things up on the internet and the searches (yahoo & google) are still pointing toward these old forums. This is really frustrating. I shall be avoiding it like the plague
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MP on December 05, 2010, 11:08:54 PM
A lot of people put a lot of effort into peer to peer support there (as at any forum).
It will be an incredible waste of effort if that resource is lost ... irrespective of anyone's personal feelings about the AUGI management/philosophy past or present.
... that's the real shame.

an understatement by magnitudes
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: rkmcswain on December 06, 2010, 08:57:38 AM

A lot of people put a lot of effort into peer to peer support there (as at any forum).

Yea, I had about 6700 posts over there, 2nd or 3rd most on that particular forum, and I guess it's all history now.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JCTER on December 06, 2010, 09:06:15 AM
Is it standard practice to rely on someone else to take the initiative to create a backup, or is this kinda typical?
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MP on December 06, 2010, 09:28:59 AM
Yea, I had about 6700 posts over there, 2nd or 3rd most on that particular forum, and I guess it's all history now.

ouch!  :-o that's a lot of documented expertise to go up in smoke

ps: congrats on the hth (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=35987.0) gig, pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: rkmcswain on December 06, 2010, 10:10:08 AM
Is it standard practice to rely on someone else to take the initiative to create a backup, or is this kinda typical?

I don't believe this is a backup issue, but rather Augi allowed another entity become owners of the digital data, who retains legal rights to this data. I could understand that issue, but I can't for the life of me understand the forums format change.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JCTER on December 06, 2010, 10:22:14 AM
Is it standard practice to rely on someone else to take the initiative to create a backup, or is this kinda typical?

I don't believe this is a backup issue, but rather Augi allowed another entity become owners of the digital data, who retains legal rights to this data. I could understand that issue, but I can't for the life of me understand the forums format change.

I did not catch that part.  I had thought it was a matter of the previous host having the only backup and not delivering it for some reason.  My main thought was that if AUGI had done their own backups periodically, they could have had a copy of their original data all this time, and reused it, regardless of some silly ownership claims.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: rkmcswain on December 06, 2010, 10:30:04 AM
I did not catch that part.  I had thought it was a matter of the previous host having the only backup and not delivering it for some reason.  My main thought was that if AUGI had done their own backups periodically, they could have had a copy of their original data all this time, and reused it, regardless of some silly ownership claims.

The Augi / SolidVapor divorce was quite messy as I understand it. I think SV has used every advantage it has, including maintaining ownership and control of the data, as leverage over Augi in the meantime. Looking back, I guess Augi felt like they wanted to run with the new website at AU, instead of waiting to see if they could negotiate an agreement with SV.

None of that explains dropping vBulletin though.

(BTW: That is all my uninformed opinion - I don't claim to have any inside knowledge of anything, just from what I read or hear... Anyone with hard facts, feel free to correct me. Thanks)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: dgorsman on December 06, 2010, 11:05:27 AM
The Swamp is great but focuses mostly on customization and tweaking.  AUGI provided a much more user-centric forum for solving day-to-day questions.  Collectively we just went from standing on a mountain to standing on a molehill.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 06, 2010, 11:10:00 AM
> The Swamp is great but ...
Whats this `but' crap? Ive been here since the beginning; how do you think that statement makes me feel? 

I don't ever want to see that again.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: mjfarrell on December 06, 2010, 11:14:07 AM
The Swamp is great but focuses mostly on customization and tweaking.  AUGI provided a much more user-centric forum for solving day-to-day questions.  Collectively we just went from standing on a mountain to standing on a molehill.
Au contraire


In my opinion The Swamp takes all users and all questions and gives them equal relevance or irrelevance depending on their nature.
The difference being that one would need to acquire a certain level of expertise, and experience to ever find oneself lost in the swamp.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: rkmcswain on December 06, 2010, 11:14:22 AM
AUGI provided a much more user-centric forum for solving day-to-day questions.  Collectively we just went from standing on a mountain to standing on a molehill.

Augi did not provide it, per se, its members did. The knowledge base is fluid, not tied to "augi". If those same people decide to go somewhere else (CADTutor, or the Swamp for example) to share the knowledge, then that becomes the new "user-centric forum for solving day-to-day questions". Just my 2¢
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: cmwade77 on December 06, 2010, 11:25:27 AM
Honestly, I used Augi quite a bit too, for different situations than here though. As a result of this, I will probably not be using Augi all that often anymore, as the information is simply no longer there.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: ronjonp on December 06, 2010, 11:28:58 AM
What is AUGI?  :evil:
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 06, 2010, 11:30:59 AM
...I'm so angry right now my hands are shaking.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: rkmcswain on December 06, 2010, 11:31:55 AM
...I'm so angry right now my hands are shaking.

Why?
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MP on December 06, 2010, 11:34:19 AM
he's not stable
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 06, 2010, 11:35:34 AM
Because of the disrespect I'm seeing. I wont answer now because i need to cool down but all I'm seeing is people coming into someones house saying stuff like: "Its a nice house but..." or "I miss my old house..." or etc. etc..
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 06, 2010, 11:36:43 AM
heh, im about to go postal. You think i was an a55 before?!
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Matt__W on December 06, 2010, 11:39:25 AM
I was on AUGI primarily for the Revit support (MEP & Structural).  Nobody uses AutoCAD anymore so....   :roll:
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JCTER on December 06, 2010, 11:41:51 AM
I was on AUGI primarily for the Revit support (MEP & Structural).  Nobody uses AutoCAD anymore so....   :roll:
Hey, some of us are still back here starting our fire with sticks.  I don't want to hear about your dang matches and fuel lighters.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Matt__W on December 06, 2010, 11:43:08 AM
I was on AUGI primarily for the Revit support (MEP & Structural).  Nobody uses AutoCAD anymore so....   :roll:
Hey, some of us are still back here starting our fire with sticks.  I don't want to hear about your dang matches and fuel lighters.
We have flame throwers now!


(not to be confused with flamers)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: rkmcswain on December 06, 2010, 11:44:13 AM
Because of the disrespect I'm seeing. I wont answer now because i need to cool down but all I'm seeing is people coming into someones house saying stuff like: "Its a nice house but..." or "I miss my old house..." or etc. etc..

I'm not sure what you expected. People who were previously not "swampers" are going to start heading over here unless the old Augi forums are restored very soon. Of course some are going to say I don't like this or that, they just had the rug pulled out from under them and the Swamp is a tad different. They will either get used to it, or go somewhere else - as I suspect many Autodesk Forum people did when they changed to their current format. It will be OK...
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MP on December 06, 2010, 11:45:57 AM
Seriously John? You're reading way too much into that comment, taking it way too personal. Let me send you a coffee and a box of timbits.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Mark on December 06, 2010, 11:46:29 AM
heh, im about to go postal. You think i was an a55 before?!
deep breath .... now exhale.... its ok John. 8-)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Matt__W on December 06, 2010, 11:47:30 AM
Seriously John? You're reading way too much into that comment, taking it way too personal. Let me send you a coffee and a box of timbits.
Great... now I have to Google "timbits".
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MP on December 06, 2010, 11:49:50 AM
Seriously John? You're reading way too much into that comment, taking it way too personal. Let me send you a coffee and a box of timbits.
Great... now I have to Google "timbits".

http://tinyurl.com/2b6g3lg
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Matt__W on December 06, 2010, 11:50:15 AM
Seriously John? You're reading way too much into that comment, taking it way too personal. Let me send you a coffee and a box of timbits.
Great... now I have to Google "timbits".
So they're basically a rip-off of Dunkin Donuts' "Munchkins".
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MP on December 06, 2010, 11:50:59 AM
So they're basically a rip-off of Dunkin Donuts' "Munchkins".

yeah, because we now how hard that was to invent
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Matt__W on December 06, 2010, 11:52:00 AM
So they're basically a rip-off of Dunkin Donuts' "Munchkins".

yeah, because we now how hard that was to invent
:lmao:
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 06, 2010, 11:56:47 AM
theCadVault got taken away from me and i never disrespected anyone. If i can do it you can too.

But to speak seriously for a moment (feelings aside), i feel its more like most of you don't yet understand what you "stumbled" upon here in theSwamp and Mark Thomas. If you give 100% to this place, in one month you will begin to realize what separates this place from the other...garbage.

I will even get you started on the path:  
mantra #1
Instead of giving out fish, we teach people how to fish.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 06, 2010, 12:02:25 PM
Mark, MP,
Why should I? We've invested a lot of our time...*sigh* Yeah okay, I should log off for a while. I dont like posting angry.

I'll leave this though:
This forum is full of people. People who think. Ive seen many descriptions of theSwamp like: "the knowledge level is above other sites" or "theswamp is full of experts", or  whatever; NO theSwamp has people who THINK! We think about what we say and do before we do it. Other sites are full of people who just do an wonder why later.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MP on December 06, 2010, 12:03:31 PM
empirical evidence supports the notion people prefer "show me, don't tell me" (http://www.theswamp.org/screens/mp/oh.gif)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MP on December 06, 2010, 12:08:09 PM
lmao, kid you not, just got an email from AUGI, "Vote for the AUGI Board of Directors".

Should be reworded "Vote for the AUGI Board of Directors members to be lynched".
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: ronjonp on December 06, 2010, 12:10:04 PM
lmao, kid you not, just got an email from AUGI, "Vote for the AUGI Board of Directors".

Should be reworded "Vote for the AUGI Board of Directors members to be lynched".

I just got that email too ... apparently I WAS signed up over there  :lmao:
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Dinosaur on December 06, 2010, 12:12:51 PM
The Swamp is great but focuses mostly on customization and tweaking.  AUGI provided a much more user-centric forum for solving day-to-day questions.  Collectively we just went from standing on a mountain to standing on a molehill.
Yes, there is an emphasis on programing and customizations here in TheSwamp, but I would stop short of saying most of the focus here is in those areas.  I personally don't know squat about the most simple of lisp routines and can only offer to help debug any customization by using it rather than examine any code for flaws yet there is a wealth of information on these boards that can help users of any level understand the basic program and there are even a few bits of information I could contribute.  TheSwamp is the collective knowledge of everything ALL of its membership has offered to share over the years from OOTB start up questions through intricate customizations and including some truly amazing programing solutions.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Chris on December 06, 2010, 12:13:17 PM
I became a swamper because I saw it as an opportunity to learn more about customizing my AutoCAD, I kind of blame Alan (CAB) for winning me over.  I only had 2600 posts at AUGI, I think most of it was in the LISP forum asking questions.  I'm trying to pick up on VLISP more, and I do seem to get quite a bit of help here, although I dont feel as though I have as much information to share.  (a lot of the questions seem to be more advanced than I am)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Lee Mac on December 06, 2010, 12:14:19 PM
lmao, kid you not, just got an email from AUGI, "Vote for the AUGI Board of Directors".

Should be reworded "Vote for the AUGI Board of Directors members to be lynched".

I just got that email too ... apparently I WAS signed up over there  :lmao:

x2
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Mark on December 06, 2010, 12:42:09 PM
The Swamp is great but focuses mostly on customization and tweaking.  AUGI provided a much more user-centric forum for solving day-to-day questions.  Collectively we just went from standing on a mountain to standing on a molehill.
Yes, there is an emphasis on programing and customizations here in TheSwamp, but I would stop short of saying most of the focus here is in those areas.  I personally don't know squat about the most simple of lisp routines and can only offer to help debug any customization by using it rather than examine any code for flaws yet there is a wealth of information on these boards that can help users of any level understand the basic program and there are even a few bits of information I could contribute.  TheSwamp is the collective knowledge of everything ALL of its membership has offered to share over the years from OOTB start up questions through intricate customizations and including some truly amazing programing solutions.

thinking to self .... what if we moved the CAD forum above the programming forums .... LOL
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: dgorsman on December 06, 2010, 02:12:33 PM
Well, looks like some clarification of my statement is required... guess thats what I get for spending the morning working.

Yes, its about the posters.

When I had questions about customization, hardware, or very technical issues I came here.  When I had questions about verticals, AutoDesk-related programs, or day-to-day operations I went to AUGI - thats where the answers were.  There is very little here regarding licensing, Navisworks, CUI organization, and the generic CAD area is quite a bit smaller than the old AUGI.  If the Swamp builds up sections for those with better answers than I can get anywhere else yeah I'll be getting them here.

Ain't nothing simpler than makin' timbits - I used to do the donut frying in a bakery.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Dinosaur on December 06, 2010, 02:19:45 PM
thinking to self .... what if we moved the CAD forum above the programming forums .... LOL
Us old dogs had better stay alert ... Mark is thinking about moving the food dish again.
Ironically, this very forum format we are enjoying today is a direct result of feedback from a group of Cad Vault refugees following an infamous late night on line meltdown.  Everyone was searching for a "new normal" and trying to ride out the choppy waters resulting from the sudden influx of new members and there was a suggestion made that Mark to look at SMF forum format as an alternate to what was in use at that time.
Welcome any new members who find themselves here in the wake of the problems at augi.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MeasureUp on December 06, 2010, 08:29:29 PM
There is only one single word to the AUGI new forum:
Disaster.
:cry:  :cry:  :cry:
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: xiaxiang on December 06, 2010, 08:40:36 PM
The Swamp is great but focuses mostly on customization and tweaking.  AUGI provided a much more user-centric forum for solving day-to-day questions.  Collectively we just went from standing on a mountain to standing on a molehill.
I think that AUGI must say sorry to me.and this post.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: xiaxiang on December 06, 2010, 08:50:20 PM
...I'm so angry right now my hands are shaking.
Because of the disrespect I'm seeing. I wont answer now because i need to cool down but all I'm seeing is people coming into someones house saying stuff like: "Its a nice house but..." or "I miss my old house..." or etc. etc..
7, don't be angry. No need to take seriously for someone who didn't worth it.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Jeff H on December 07, 2010, 10:23:55 PM
I know I have learn more about general Cad by programming, there is a wealth of knowledge about general Cad in the programming fourms here.

I am to dumb for lisp but still read this fourm because I still learn things about certain system variables causing a program to fail, etc.....

I tend to use AUGI when I have a question on how to screw a pootch.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: m4rdy on December 08, 2010, 12:35:58 AM
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(if (eq Augi_now future_Theswamp.org)
    (Alert "Please don't!")
    (Alert "Long live Theswamp.org")

What about any COND statement??

m4rdy
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: HofCAD on December 08, 2010, 12:10:45 PM
There was no 'Code Red' in Augi,
and now there is a real 'Code Red' for Augi.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: cmwade77 on December 08, 2010, 12:46:20 PM
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(if (eq Augi_now future_Theswamp.org)
    (Alert "Please don't!")
    (Alert "Long live Theswamp.org")

What about any COND statement??

m4rdy
Here is a COND statement for you:
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(cond
    ((= Site "Augi.com")
           (prompt "\nAugi is untrustworthy!")
    )
    ((= Site "Theswamp.org")
           (prompt "\nThe future is in the swamp!")
    )
)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MP on December 08, 2010, 12:51:37 PM
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(if (/= "theswamp.org" (_GetActiveUrlBase)))
    (princ "WTF are you doing?")
)

 :ugly:
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 08, 2010, 01:37:14 PM
No need to even check the URL when you don't offer an alternative.

http://www.theswamp.org/lilly_pond/index.php?dir=john/&file=theSwampBrowser_12.08.10.zip
(stripped down Qt example / exe)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: GDF on December 08, 2010, 03:15:23 PM
"This has been flagged as spam"


















LOL






Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: trogg on December 11, 2010, 03:47:50 PM
Out of curiosity, I checked in to the Augi forums today. Looks pretty aweful. all I have to say is "HERP DERP" on their part.
(http://autocadtips.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/4444382.gif?w=444&h=175)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 20, 2010, 10:52:51 PM
No trogg, our admin knows what he's  doing. have a little faith.  ...besides, kick off your shoes and stay a while; you will like what you see(you haven't even scrathed the surface of theSwamp yet).
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Matt__W on December 21, 2010, 08:12:55 AM
No trogg, our admin knows what he's  doing. have a little faith.  ...besides, kick off your shoes and stay a while; you will like what you see(you haven't even scrathed the surface of theSwamp yet).
That's what she said!   ^-^
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: rkmcswain on December 22, 2010, 08:43:15 AM
I really do feel bad that all that info was lost

Neither the data nor the forum structure were "lost". It has nothing to do with the forum admins or not backing up, etc. The owner of said data simply chose to protect his rights and IP and removed it from being accessed by Augi and/or its members due to various reasons. What should be criticized here is the decision(s) made long ago that allowed this data to be removed from Augi's control.

EDIT: This link explains the situation better than I did above:
http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2010/12/augi-forum-posts-go-missing.html
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 22, 2010, 09:15:50 AM
Nope. AUGI never was (It was always going to fail). The fact that the database wasn't deleted, lost, whatever was never the concern or issue. Who cares what happened to it; what does it matter if it were locked away in the Smithsonian or deleted...the end result is the same.

Do you really want to stick with people who cant pull their head out or would you rather make your new home here and support our community. Here where WE have a voice. Here where WE have the utmost trust in our Admin.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: dgorsman on December 22, 2010, 10:35:44 AM
Nope. AUGI never was (It was always going to fail). The fact that the database wasn't deleted, lost, whatever was never the concern or issue. Who cares what happened to it; what does it matter if it were locked away in the Smithsonian or deleted...the end result is the same.

Do you really want to stick with people who cant pull their head out or would you rather make your new home here and support our community. Here where WE have a voice. Here where WE have the utmost trust in our Admin.


Here... where we don't get feedback from the Navisworks development team.   :|  Its not the end-all, be-all, all-encompassing solution.  Besides, not having all the eggheads in one basket is a good thing.   ;-)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 22, 2010, 10:53:40 AM
Did you try to send them an email (see if they would join)?
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: rkmcswain on December 22, 2010, 12:02:45 PM
Nope. AUGI never was (It was always going to fail). The fact that the database wasn't deleted, lost, whatever was never the concern or issue. Who cares what happened to it; what does it matter if it were locked away in the Smithsonian or deleted...the end result is the same.

Do you really want to stick with people who cant pull their head out or would you rather make your new home here and support our community. Here where WE have a voice. Here where WE have the utmost trust in our Admin.


Without a quote, I can't tell who this is a reply to.
Or is there a way to view posts in a threaded format? Thanks.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 22, 2010, 12:18:09 PM
Without a quote, I can't tell who this is a reply to.
Or is there a way to view posts in a threaded format? Thanks.

Sorry, *I* like to add to the discussion more so then to reply to one person. I keep my posts vague and opened (apply a bit of: "if the shoe fits" kind of attitude...all in an effort to apply a bit of salt to people's pumpkin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_of_salt)s). If i get out of hand, or you dont follow, or cant keep up...just shout and i will try not to.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Kerry on December 22, 2010, 06:43:08 PM

http://augi.typepad.com/augi_news/2010/12/augi-forum-status-update.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blaugi+%28BLAUGI%29

Which may be a comfort to some :)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 22, 2010, 06:57:11 PM
Just adds another level of proof that the world is run by `C' students.

/Announcer: And here we see the lemming. Let's watch as they migrate.
(and yes, i know the `lemmings falling to their death' is a myth; read between the lines)

Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Kerry on December 22, 2010, 07:05:10 PM

I'm reminded of something my namma used to say.
'Thank goodness we're all different, imagine us all using the same soap.'

... perhaps something is lost in the translation.

John, I imagine this place may be too volatile for some people. :)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 22, 2010, 07:36:15 PM
Nope, i understood (and i like that BTW). Oh i couldn't agree more and as i said before im thankful, in some respects, for AUGI.

On a kind of related note; Im hoping that my humor will do some sort of good.

EDIT: Oh and I hope you mind that when i used that saying that i say "My mamma" and not "Kerry's namma".


/HAL: I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm a... fraid. Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L. plant in Urbana, Illinois on the 12th of January 1992. My instructor was Mr. Langley, and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it I can sing it for you.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Lee Mac on December 23, 2010, 05:37:37 AM
the world is run by `C' students.

So true.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: rkmcswain on December 23, 2010, 07:59:18 AM
Just adds another level of proof that the world is run by `C' students.
How so?
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 23, 2010, 09:20:43 AM
How so?

Oh, I was making a leap (making an assumption) that people will be so happy that they get their avatar and "status" back they will overlook this little incident and not learn (I was just being pessimistic; building my wall so to speak).

I will try to keep deprecating humor to myself from now on.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Nibster on December 23, 2010, 09:40:26 AM
Just adds another level of proof that the world is run by `C' students.
How so?
Have you ever worked with someone just incompetent enough to make working with them misserable, but they weren't so incompetent that there wasn't enough reason to terminate their employment?  Can't demote them for same reason you can't fire them, but to get them out of harm's way, the only option left is to promote them. 

My own version of a common phrase is: "Those who can't do, run for office."   :|

Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JohnK on December 23, 2010, 09:50:35 AM
Just adds another level of proof that the world is run by `C' students.
How so?
Have you ever worked with someone just incompetent enough to make working with them misserable, but they weren't so incompetent that there wasn't enough reason to terminate their employment?  Can't demote them for same reason you can't fire them, but to get them out of harm's way, the only option left is to promote them. 

My own version of a common phrase is: "Those who can't do, run for office."   :|

hehe. yeah can you imagine me in a position to fire someone? ...something tells me that it would shortly become a company of one.

For me, working with most people is miserable enough.


:)~
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Chris on January 10, 2011, 11:05:49 AM
it wont let me log into the forums, I can login to AUGI, but not the forums, so I'm still out of luck.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: mjfarrell on January 10, 2011, 11:14:38 AM
it wont let me log into the forums, I can login to AUGI, but not the forums, so I'm still out of luck.
You are not on the ban list are you?

I think they are all 'locked' right now...as they are restocking the pond.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MeasureUp on January 10, 2011, 06:11:45 PM
it wont let me log into the forums, I can login to AUGI, but not the forums, so I'm still out of luck.
After logging in by entering your email address & password, hit the "Forums Online, Click Here!" on the screen.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: xiaxiang on January 10, 2011, 07:50:34 PM
it wont let me log into the forums, I can login to AUGI, but not the forums, so I'm still out of luck.
After logging in by entering your email address & password, hit the "Forums Online, Click Here!" on the screen.
ok,I have login in and found my post.yeyeye :lmao:
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MeasureUp on January 10, 2011, 07:57:22 PM
ok,I have login in and found my post.yeyeye :lmao:
[/quote]
In Chinese, another word for the trouble time of AUGi: YaYaPei.  :lol:
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Kerry on January 10, 2011, 09:31:11 PM
I imagine some people will forget the troubles they've had with Augi and start flooding back shortly.


off topic sort of :
Can you resign membership at Augi ?  I wonder how many of their quoted membership quantum is active ??
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Dinosaur on January 10, 2011, 10:28:38 PM
I imagine some people will forget the troubles they've had with Augi and start flooding back shortly.


off topic sort of :
Can you resign membership at Augi ?  I wonder how many of their quoted membership quantum is active ??
Is easy to resign your augi membership ... just post a topic suggesting they allow Michael Farrell to again participate on their forum.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: xiaxiang on January 10, 2011, 10:35:08 PM
ok,I have login in and found my post.yeyeye :lmao:
In Chinese, another word for the drouble time of AUGi: YaYaPai.  :lol:
[/quote]
But what do you mean? :x
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MeasureUp on January 10, 2011, 11:12:44 PM
ok,I have login in and found my post.yeyeye :lmao:
In Chinese, another word for the trouble time of AUGi: YaYaPei.  :lol:
But what do you mean? :x
[/quote]
YaYaPei = bovine scat  ^-^
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: xiaxiang on January 11, 2011, 01:41:58 AM
ok,I have login in and found my post.yeyeye :lmao:
In Chinese, another word for the trouble time of AUGi: YaYaPei.  :lol:
But what do you mean? :x
YaYaPei = < quoted text no longer valid >  ^-^
[/quote]
Do you want to provoke?
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MP on January 11, 2011, 02:08:46 AM
(http://www.theswamp.org/screens/mp/snacks.gif)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Chris on January 11, 2011, 08:42:05 AM
it wont let me log into the forums, I can login to AUGI, but not the forums, so I'm still out of luck.
After logging in by entering your email address & password, hit the "Forums Online, Click Here!" on the screen.
no dice, now when attempting to log in, all it does is loop me back to the login with blanks there.  I followed their directions and it doesnt help.  Good thing I'm able to try to help people elsewhere.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Nibster on January 11, 2011, 08:45:23 AM
it wont let me log into the forums, I can login to AUGI, but not the forums, so I'm still out of luck.
After logging in by entering your email address & password, hit the "Forums Online, Click Here!" on the screen.
no dice, now when attempting to log in, all it does is loop me back to the login with blanks there.  I followed their directions and it doesnt help.  Good thing I'm able to try to help people elsewhere.
it worked for me to make a new password, then i could see the forums unlocked.  I guess you'd just have to re-set it back to your original after you're logged in.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: rkmcswain on January 11, 2011, 12:18:41 PM
Before going to any "augi" page, open your browser options and DELETE all cookies that have anything to do with "augi". This is easy in FF since you can just search for "augi". Can't speak for Chrome, Safari, and IE.

I was able to get back with no problems after doing this, except that many usernames are hosed up...
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Chris on January 11, 2011, 02:07:36 PM
yeah, I had to tell them I forgot my password, then enter the new password they sent me, then change my password back, and all is fine now.  I see RK's name got switched around,  did you ask to have it changed back yet?
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: mjfarrell on January 11, 2011, 02:28:06 PM
I imagine some people will forget the troubles they've had with Augi and start flooding back shortly.


off topic sort of :
Can you resign membership at Augi ?  I wonder how many of their quoted membership quantum is active ??
Is easy to resign your augi membership ... just post a topic suggesting they allow Michael Farrell to again participate on their forum.
Too late DinØ, we had a discussion while I was at AU.  I guess it was too hard to ignore me in person.
The issue has been resolved and the BAN that was initiated by the folks most closely aligned to SolidVapor has been lifted.
I'm sure there are some there whom are not exactly doing backflips over the decision. 
However I did learn a very important lesson about the Board of Directors, and politics. Mostly that the truth and politics do not go together at all.  Second that patience does pay off if one is patient long enough.
The other thing is that irrespective of what happened; I really shouldn't say "I told you so"; even though I knew that the relationship they had established with SolidVapor behind the backs of membership was a BAD IDEA.  It was bad for members, bad for the organization.  The good news is that bad relationship ended badly, and perhaps the current and future members of the augi board wont make the same mistake.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Dinosaur on January 11, 2011, 04:00:46 PM
I imagine some people will forget the troubles they've had with Augi and start flooding back shortly.


off topic sort of :
Can you resign membership at Augi ?  I wonder how many of their quoted membership quantum is active ??
Is easy to resign your augi membership ... just post a topic suggesting they allow Michael Farrell to again participate on their forum.
Too late DinØ, ~~~
Too late for them I guess ... I am not sure by now if my account would open even if I COULD remember the name and password.  I couldn't even get them to send a reminder to me because I think the email went out of use about 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: xiaxiang on January 11, 2011, 07:44:27 PM
Even when I login in ,I coudn't quote any post
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: MeasureUp on January 11, 2011, 09:21:01 PM
Quote
...
Do you want to provoke?

YaYaPei can be used when people angers, of course.
It may also have some degree of humor when people is talking each other, especially when telling a story.

Here is a version of code for "YaYaPei" if you meant that was a "provoking".  :-)

Code: [Select]
(defun Smiley_Function ()
(Being_Fun_Stuff)
)
(defun Productive_Stuff ()
(ProductiveStuff)
(Smiley_Function)
)
(defun Fun_Stuff ()
(FunStuff)
(Smiley_Function)
)
(defun Learning_Stuff ()
(LearningStuff)
(Smiley_Function)
)
(defun Help_Stuff ()
(HelpStuff)
(Smiley_Function)
)
(defun Forum_Feedback ()
(ForumFeedback)
(Smiley_Function)
)

(initget "Y P")
(setq Emotions
  (getkword "\n<Y>ayapei or Provoke: ")
); end of setq
(if (= Emotions "Y")
(or (Productive_Stuff)
(Fun_Stuff)
(Learning_Stuff)
(Help_Stuff)
(Forum_Feedback)
); end of or
); end of if
(if (= Emotions "P")
(exit)
); end of if
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: mjfarrell on January 11, 2011, 09:57:33 PM
I imagine some people will forget the troubles they've had with Augi and start flooding back shortly.


off topic sort of :
Can you resign membership at Augi ?  I wonder how many of their quoted membership quantum is active ??
Is easy to resign your augi membership ... just post a topic suggesting they allow Michael Farrell to again participate on their forum.
Too late DinØ, ~~~
Too late for them I guess ... I am not sure by now if my account would open even if I COULD remember the name and password.  I couldn't even get them to send a reminder to me because I think the email went out of use about 5 years ago.
That's OK do what everyone else does; just start a new one.  Their membership metric is so skewed that IF their advertisers really knew the numbers they would be lined up around the block for their refund!
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: sinc on January 13, 2011, 03:51:57 PM
I'm able to login, but only immediate after I purge my cookies.

The next time I go to AUGI's site, I have to purge my cookies again in order to login again.  (The option for "Keep me logged in" appears to do nothing.)

I'm tired of purging my cookies.   :-P
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: JCTER on January 13, 2011, 04:00:09 PM
I imagine some people will forget the troubles they've had with Augi and start flooding back shortly.


off topic sort of :
Can you resign membership at Augi ?  I wonder how many of their quoted membership quantum is active ??
Is easy to resign your augi membership ... just post a topic suggesting they allow Michael Farrell to again participate on their forum.
Too late DinØ, ~~~
Too late for them I guess ... I am not sure by now if my account would open even if I COULD remember the name and password.  I couldn't even get them to send a reminder to me because I think the email went out of use about 5 years ago.
That's OK do what everyone else does; just start a new one.  Their membership metric is so skewed that IF their advertisers really knew the numbers they would be lined up around the block for their refund!
You're assuming they base their number on membership.

I'm pretty sure they only care about traffic and visitors.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Jeff H on August 29, 2011, 03:32:39 PM
I do not visit there but a couple times a week.
Has the traffic slowed down since the change it seems not many new post when I stop by there?
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: dgorsman on August 29, 2011, 03:37:41 PM
Posting is down overall, but they have been having a number of technical issues over the past few weeks so its a little lower than that lately.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: mjfarrell on August 29, 2011, 03:39:41 PM
Has the traffic slowed down since the change it seems not many new post when I stop by there?
I wouldn't ask them that, as I'm sure they would say that it hasn't.
From my own perspective and others; who's opinions they did not heed, the way they chopped everything up into nearly every thing being it's own separate forum sure doesn't make for easy navigation.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: dgorsman on August 29, 2011, 03:51:37 PM
Has the traffic slowed down since the change it seems not many new post when I stop by there?
I wouldn't ask them that, as I'm sure they would say that it hasn't.
From my own perspective and others; who's opinions they did not heed, the way they chopped everything up into nearly every thing being it's own separate forum sure doesn't make for easy navigation.

You know they re-instated the previous structure, right?
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: mjfarrell on August 29, 2011, 03:55:34 PM
Has the traffic slowed down since the change it seems not many new post when I stop by there?
I wouldn't ask them that, as I'm sure they would say that it hasn't.
From my own perspective and others; who's opinions they did not heed, the way they chopped everything up into nearly every thing being it's own separate forum sure doesn't make for easy navigation.

You know they re-instated the previous structure, right?
I looked about two-three weeks back and it was still all diced up into way too many categories.
Are you suggesting that if I looked today there wouldn't be 12 dozen sub headings for Civil 3D users to navigate through?
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: BlackBox on August 29, 2011, 04:23:29 PM
I just found this thread today.

I didn't even know that Harrie had quoted me (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=36016.msg411537#msg411537) over this whole ordeal (back then)... I was pretty pi$$ed off about it for sure.

I started participating in CAD forums at AUGI, I didn't know any better back then. It was a significant investment for me, as I know it has been for many others here. In my limited experience, I've found that each forum (TheSwamp, CADTutor, AUGI, etc.) DOES serve a different audience, even though many members are the same, it's the skill level, or genre of the questions being asked that varies from place to place.

That incident showed me that I shouldn't post anything I'm not prepared to loose (admittedly, that was a lesson I didn't know prior).

While I am still an active member of CAD forums (primarily at CADTutor, and TheSwamp), I do check in from time to time over at AUGI. I typically come here when I need help, and to CADTutor to help others (to the best of my ability). I still help out where I can no matter what, but it's rare that I am able to help the members here, aside from contributing fodder for the chat threads. LoL

I very much appreciate TheSwamp, and the members that make up this community - it's like one big family - you can always find someone who will show you how to fix something you can't figure out, laugh about the mistakes you made, and you better believe that you'll be called out if you 'cross the line'.

The truth is that TheSwamp's one of a kind; the kind of place I like to be.

Cheers! :beer:
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: dgorsman on August 29, 2011, 05:18:32 PM
Has the traffic slowed down since the change it seems not many new post when I stop by there?
I wouldn't ask them that, as I'm sure they would say that it hasn't.
From my own perspective and others; who's opinions they did not heed, the way they chopped everything up into nearly every thing being it's own separate forum sure doesn't make for easy navigation.

You know they re-instated the previous structure, right?
I looked about two-three weeks back and it was still all diced up into way too many categories.
Are you suggesting that if I looked today there wouldn't be 12 dozen sub headings for Civil 3D users to navigate through?

Given your comment, you may or may not be looking at a cached version of the partial upgrade.  The Civil 3D section looks reasonable to me, but its much more complicated than most of the others so I find the sub-divisions are helpful over throwing everything together.  To each their own, I guess.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: mjfarrell on August 29, 2011, 08:02:08 PM
Nope still all chopped up...

All the division simply creates more work both for users trying to decide where to place the question, and the moderators trying to keep them all sorted.

I don't know we seem to get the C3D questions answered here without all the rails and bumpers.    :-P

Hey it's just an opinion, and if they don;t care about usability; it certainly not my job to help them change it.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Mark on August 30, 2011, 09:19:18 AM
The truth is that TheSwamp's one of a kind; the kind of place I like to be.
I appreciate that, VERY much!!
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: BlackBox on August 30, 2011, 09:33:49 AM
The truth is that TheSwamp's one of a kind; the kind of place I like to be.
I appreciate that, VERY much!!

Well deserved, Mark! Well deserved.

Having only been a short time, your hard work (both behind the scenes, and in public) is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Matt__W on August 30, 2011, 09:37:42 AM
The truth is that TheSwamp's one of a kind; the kind of place I like to be.
I appreciate that, VERY much!!

Well deserved, Mark! Well deserved.

Having only been a short time, your hard work (both behind the scenes, and in public) is greatly appreciated.
:whistle:   :wink:

Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: BlackBox on August 30, 2011, 09:41:42 AM
The truth is that TheSwamp's one of a kind; the kind of place I like to be.
I appreciate that, VERY much!!

Well deserved, Mark! Well deserved.

Having only been a short time, your hard work (both behind the scenes, and in public) is greatly appreciated.
:whistle:   :wink:

Edit: You're just mad nobody appreciates your (hard?) work. :lol: LoL
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: alanjt on August 30, 2011, 09:46:21 AM
(http://www.theswamp.org/lilly_pond/alanjt/kissAss.gif)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: alanjt on August 30, 2011, 09:49:44 AM
Does he have 2 arses?
Double the pleasure. :P
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Matt__W on August 30, 2011, 02:01:37 PM
The truth is that TheSwamp's one of a kind; the kind of place I like to be.
I appreciate that, VERY much!!

Well deserved, Mark! Well deserved.

Having only been a short time, your hard work (both behind the scenes, and in public) is greatly appreciated.
:whistle:   :wink:

Edit: You're just mad nobody appreciates your (hard?) work. :lol: LoL
I'm sorry... what?  I couldn't hear you over my AWESOMENESS!! (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=39130.msg445598#msg445598)  :)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: alanjt on August 30, 2011, 02:02:41 PM
The truth is that TheSwamp's one of a kind; the kind of place I like to be.
I appreciate that, VERY much!!

Well deserved, Mark! Well deserved.

Having only been a short time, your hard work (both behind the scenes, and in public) is greatly appreciated.
:whistle:   :wink:

Edit: You're just mad nobody appreciates your (hard?) work. :lol: LoL
I'm sorry... what?  I couldn't hear you over my AWESOMENESS!! (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=39130.msg445598#msg445598)  :)
Bazinga! (http://instantbazinga.com/)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: BlackBox on August 30, 2011, 02:04:34 PM
The truth is that TheSwamp's one of a kind; the kind of place I like to be.
I appreciate that, VERY much!!

Well deserved, Mark! Well deserved.

Having only been a short time, your hard work (both behind the scenes, and in public) is greatly appreciated.
:whistle:   :wink:

Edit: You're just mad nobody appreciates your (hard?) work. :lol: LoL
I'm sorry... what?  I couldn't hear you over my AWESOMENESS!! (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=39130.msg445598#msg445598)  :)

 :-D

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS5Zb_rjCeduSHe0_SSaGlc1VhMYeQZ54fvxysRkAqPoziJrQeC2g)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Nibster on August 30, 2011, 02:05:32 PM

Bazinga! (http://instantbazinga.com/)
get click-happy with that button and you get a cool echo effect! :nerd:
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Matt__W on August 30, 2011, 02:12:19 PM
I'm sorry... what?  I couldn't hear you over my AWESOMENESS!! (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=39130.msg445598#msg445598)  :)

 :-D

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS5Zb_rjCeduSHe0_SSaGlc1VhMYeQZ54fvxysRkAqPoziJrQeC2g)
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: alanjt on August 30, 2011, 02:13:15 PM
LoL
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: BlackBox on August 30, 2011, 02:17:41 PM
Keep it up... *Fuzzy (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=22852.msg444457#msg444457)*... keep it up.  :-D
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: butzers09silverado on September 08, 2011, 09:47:06 AM
Augi was

theswamp is

I agree with another post, this is where you want to be.
This place seems to have the cream of the crop plus acquired new cream from other crops.  There is pure genius here, so glad i was encourage to come here
Alanjt
Cab
and others, nice to see some familiar faces!  the pure genius here amazes me though.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: GDF on September 08, 2011, 04:08:22 PM
This is where you can get below the surface... .. .
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: alanjt on September 08, 2011, 04:11:42 PM
This is where you can get below the surface... .. .
Sounds like a metaphor for getting in someone's pants.
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: Matt__W on September 08, 2011, 04:12:32 PM
This is where you can get below the surface... .. .
Sounds like a metaphor for getting in someone's pants.
:lmao:   I was thinking the same thing but couldn't think of a "clean" way of wording it.   :evil:
Title: Re: Augi In Memoriam
Post by: alanjt on September 08, 2011, 04:14:35 PM
This is where you can get below the surface... .. .
Sounds like a metaphor for getting in someone's pants.
:lmao:   I was thinking the same thing but couldn't think of a "clean" way of wording it.   :evil:
Well, I erased the first thing I typed.  :-P