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Title: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 15, 2010, 07:33:23 PM
I thought I would post some if my thoughts here since it was a DEV conference.

I had plans to meet up with Owen, Deelip and a few other attendees at the airport, since we were all arriving around the same time. I figured, I could spot everyone from their blog pics.. While standing at the arrival gate, Owen tapped me on the back and said in a booming voice, "Looking for somebody?". I thought ACK! I hope I never pissed this guy off, at 6'5" (my estimate), he could easily put my lights out. Luckily for me, he's one of the nicest people you'd ever meet.  Once we met up with Deelip and the others, we all made our way to Bruges by train. First order of business, beer (Brugse Zot) and lunch. Suffering from the after affects of a 13 hour flight, It was nap time.

The conference was a blast! Listening to all the speakers show off their creations made me realize how far the CAD world reaches and how many companies customize CAD (read Bricscad), for both internal use and for "for-sale" products. An example was how a dredging company used Bricscad/BRX to map seafloor data and program their CNC like rock cutting tool. Come to find out, the dredging company was using BRX + some of the managed wrappers I had written.  Anyway I was amazed to see large global companies making the move to Bricscad. After day one of the conference, we had dinner and beer tasting at the Salvador Dali museum. What do you get when you put a hundred C++ coders in a Salvador Dali museum, with truck loads of free beer?

The second day of the conference was great as well, listening to the Bricsys team layout their goals for the next year and listening to  more guest speakers showing off their creations. This is the part where the Bricsys team has moved up a few notches in my book... After day 2 of the conference, Bricsys put on a party at a lovely mansion at the center of Bruges. Bricsys arranged for scenic boat trips for all the guests, a Jazz band and all the wine and beer you could drink. At 10:00 pm sharp, the Bricsys rock band fired up.  Luc De Batselier (Bricsys CTO) on keyboard and Hans De Backer (Bricsys head of Bricscad development) on bass were rock'en the house until the police showed up at 2:00 am, the party continued till 5:00 am. As you can imagine everyone was talking quietly for conference day 3.

On day 4, the conference was officially over and most everyone had already left. A few of us diehards went to visit the Bricsys office in Gent, another beautiful town in Belgium. First order of business coffee, Erik De Keyser (Bricsys CEO) showed me their coffee maker 9000, it makes coffee so strong, it could be considered a controlled substance in the US. It became very clear how so few coders get so much work done. After a couple of shots of joe, we got the grand tour of the office and a look at their testing servers that run automated tests on every code check-in.. the cool stuff.. Afterwards, we all went out for a pizza and wine lunch.

What I took away from the conference (besides the hangover).
Bricsys is a fantastic company with a great company culture, Their average employee has been there for over 11 years. (I asked every employee I met, how long they had been working for Bricsys).
It's a lean machine with forty some odd coders and four overhead.
They are very serious about quality as evident from the amount resources they put into their testing servers.
Bricscad is now considered a viable product by large multi-national corporations.
They like beer

(forgive my spelling/grammar mistakes, I'm recovering)
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 15, 2010, 07:36:23 PM
Owen.. Beer
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 15, 2010, 07:37:00 PM
Erik, Hans and Luc
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 15, 2010, 07:39:14 PM
boat ride
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: gskelly on June 15, 2010, 07:46:37 PM
Sounds like you had a blast!

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 15, 2010, 08:04:37 PM
Sounds like you had a blast!

To say the least, It would have been cool to meet more swamp members, hopefully next year.   :wink:
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: LE3 on June 15, 2010, 08:35:10 PM
To envy.

( Do they need help - janitorial services,  coffee maker, go for the lunch's, and at the end if time permits to write some code too.... :lol: )
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 15, 2010, 09:35:45 PM
To envy.

( Do they need help - janitorial services,  coffee maker, go for the lunch's, and at the end if time permits to write some code too.... :lol: )

I don't know about that, but people like you might consider porting your application(s) to Bricscad, just sit back and rack in the cash   :kewl:
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: Daniel Eiszele on June 15, 2010, 10:00:40 PM
Hi Dan,

is there anything you can tell us about Bricsys' development roadmap?  Or did they swear you to secrecy!
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 15, 2010, 10:07:53 PM
Hi Dan,

.... Or did they swear you to secrecy!

Yeah, we had to sign NDAs  :|
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: LE3 on June 15, 2010, 10:09:33 PM
just sit back and rack in the cash   :kewl:

Sound way to good.... (been there, done that... in other time)  :-)

On what I am doing as a consultor, it is something that will be for run inside this app, afaik... but I won't be the one doing the port/or part, just some new objects... if it is permitted, will publish the site or about it.

And back, to the conference, kudos for you !.... what a great opportunity... to met the great maestro and code poet Owen. :)
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 15, 2010, 10:15:55 PM
what a great opportunity... to meet the great maestro and code poet Owen. :)

That was so cool, I had the chance to ask him the important questions like
Have you ever met TT
What do you think of .NET
...

 :-D
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: LE3 on June 15, 2010, 10:44:19 PM
Great philosophical questions... I bet he does not... on the other have not seen nothing from him about .net.... on the ng's

what a great opportunity... to meet the great maestro and code poet Owen. :)

That was so cool, I had the chance to ask him the important questions like
Have you ever met TT
What do you think of .NET
...

 :-D
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: pkohut on June 15, 2010, 11:13:07 PM
Sounds like fun. Since I can't drink I'll have one Belgium blond barmaid to go. Make that a double.  :angel:
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 15, 2010, 11:40:51 PM
... I'll have one Belgium blond barmaid to go. Make that a double.  :angel:

Ha! I was thinking the same thing  :-D
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: pkohut on June 16, 2010, 12:37:20 AM
just sit back and rack in the cash   :kewl:

Sound way to good.... (been there, done that... in other time)  :-)

Agree with Luis.

I hope you and everyone else rakes in boatloads of cash Daniel.

(warning: freaking rant below, not to be taken personally)
Reality is, there will be a few winners, a few that place, and a boatload of losers. The odds of being in the winners circle are far to great for me to even consider coding for that platform. Hell, I don't even like the odds with Autocad, but I'm not trying to sell in that market either.

(going over the edge now, still don't take personally)
Do you have a business prospectus yet? If you have, I can tell you that it is probably way, way, way, way, off. Multiply the bottom line with a dose of reality, 0.001 to 0.0001 is a good kick in the teeth. Now are you making a living or making a hobby?

(ok, reel it back in now)
Either way, best to you.
Sincerely.
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 16, 2010, 01:54:58 AM
Surprising Paul, I thought you were the type to take on a little risk..you know what they say about people who avoid risk   :-D
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: pkohut on June 16, 2010, 06:56:26 AM
Surprising Paul, I thought you were the type to take on a little risk..you know what they say about people who avoid risk   :-D

Still taking risks, just looking for bigger markets to expend time, energy, and money into. For me, putting that energy into the cad market hasn't been worth it for a long while.
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 16, 2010, 07:55:45 AM
Surprising Paul, I thought you were the type to take on a little risk..you know what they say about people who avoid risk   :-D

Still taking risks, just looking for bigger markets to expend time, energy, and money into. For me, putting that energy into the cad market hasn't been worth it for a long while.

I understand and I know that with exceptional talent like yours, you can choose any market you like.
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: owenwengerd on June 16, 2010, 08:07:55 AM
Daniel, it was a pleasure meeting you in Belgium. Sorry, I didn't mean to scare you at the airport, but I have to confess, the look on your face was priceless. :)
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: LE3 on June 16, 2010, 10:42:15 AM
In my case, and per my past experiences, I prefer to take a fix amount or sometimes, a little more every two weeks, or at the end of the month, for sure, and leave the risk to the ones I now write code for - The risk I take now is to find clients and keep them, that way I can have a job.

Now that I'm in my early fifties, the risk I want to take is to learn better C++ and not spend so much in AutoCAD developing, there are better opportunities in other sectors, and the pay is better.

My 2 pesos - That nowadays worth almost nothing.... (and something totally different: in 1972 with a US quarter I could pay for four bus tickets, or buy me a sandwich, a soda, and a chocolate)

:)

Surprising Paul, I thought you were the type to take on a little risk..you know what they say about people who avoid risk   :-D
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: dgorsman on June 16, 2010, 02:12:45 PM
What do you get when you put a hundred C++ coders in a Salvador Dali museum, with truck loads of free beer?

The CAD equivalents of Unix and LSD?   :-D
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: owenwengerd on June 16, 2010, 02:23:19 PM
What do you get when you put a hundred C++ coders in a Salvador Dali museum, with truck loads of free beer?

The CAD equivalents of Unix and LSD?   :-D

Or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=tsmMwMfo95o (http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=tsmMwMfo95o)
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: LE3 on June 16, 2010, 04:24:15 PM
And Owen, if you can break the NDA and since Daniel did not say ... Have you seen TT in person? :)

What do you get when you put a hundred C++ coders in a Salvador Dali museum, with truck loads of free beer?

The CAD equivalents of Unix and LSD?   :-D

Or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=tsmMwMfo95o (http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=tsmMwMfo95o)
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: owenwengerd on June 16, 2010, 11:46:45 PM
And Owen, if you can break the NDA and since Daniel did not say ... Have you seen TT in person? :)

Nope, but I know several people who have met him in person. There's a guy who's legend is larger than life, but I guess he's a pretty large guy as well.
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 19, 2010, 07:31:44 PM
Daniel, it was a pleasure meeting you in Belgium. Sorry, I didn't mean to scare you at the airport, but I have to confess, the look on your face was priceless. :)

Owen, the pleasure was all mine.  :-)  BTY I found where to get a mean Ribeye + loaded potato, so next year we can get a good meal.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 19, 2010, 07:36:43 PM
mean not as in average, but as in awesome   :-D
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: ahlzl on June 21, 2010, 03:24:02 AM
(http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33775.0;attach=16117;image)
This is Daniel?
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 21, 2010, 03:27:30 AM
No, That's my shifu, Mr. Owen Wengerd
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: ahlzl on June 21, 2010, 03:48:31 AM
That's my shifu
Daniel is my teacher!
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 21, 2010, 03:56:10 AM
This is me with my munchkin  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: pkohut on June 21, 2010, 04:59:08 AM
Nice to put a real face to your name. Figured ya didn't look anything like Gene.
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: frtfff on June 21, 2010, 05:46:18 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: SEANT on June 21, 2010, 05:52:17 AM
This is me with my munchkin  :laugh:

Thatís an adorable munchkin.
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 21, 2010, 06:02:45 AM
Nice to put a real face to your name. Figured ya didn't look anything like Gene.

Ha!, you don't know how many times I get "Oh you cut your hair", my response is usually something like "yes, Frau BlŁcher"
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 21, 2010, 06:03:36 AM
This is me with my munchkin  :laugh:

Thatís an adorable munchkin.


Thanks, she's my little Joy  :-)
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: LE3 on June 21, 2010, 10:55:34 AM
This is me with my munchkin  :laugh:

Thatís an adorable munchkin.

x10


Enjoy as much as you can, while they are at that age :)... my young daughter now is 19 years old, yikes time pass so fast....
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: John Kaul (Se7en) on June 21, 2010, 05:12:48 PM
I'll see LE3's 10 and raise another 10.
Title: Re: Bricsys DEV conference 2010.
Post by: It's Alive! on June 24, 2010, 10:26:49 AM
The Kilo of Chocolate is now gone  :|