TheSwamp
CAD Forums => CAD General => Topic started by: Guest on April 02, 2008, 09:30:33 AM
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I've been perusing the other NG and have found more negative posts that positive. A lot of them refer to crashing, the clear type fonts and sluggishness.
I just received ACA 2009 yesterday and currently don't have a test machine to install it on to kick the tires, but from what I've been reading, it doesn't sound like we'll be updating any time soon.
Oh, and there's already a hot fix (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=10976858&linkID=9240618) issued. IT JUST STARTED SHIPPING LATE LAST MONTH!! Just goes to show you that it isn't fully cooked yet, I guess.
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I'm severely annoyed by their behavior, but nothing specific seems to jump to mind that would make it a BAD release, more than any other release I've had. Yes, changes... yes I'm frustrated that they don't devote their energies to more quality, than speed...
But as usual, there are new tools, some I love, some I like, some I will probably grow to be indifferent to.
I had actually read about less crashing, but who knows... I won't know until I try it in my specific environment. That seems to be an issue specific to each person.
I got to open the beta and play a few times, but nothing of note. I'm still waiting on my shipment.
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I haven't received my release copy.. but the Release Candidate version was pretty stable in my opinion. I didn't heavily test some of the new fancier features like the macro tools and what not.
But basic day to day functionality seemed fine to me, and it did correct some outstanding bugs that I was aware of so, I don't have any major beefs with the new release.
Oh and that hotfix is just for the license manager to implement/fix ipv6 for that specifically.. I really doubt that effects more than .5% of customers if that
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Just got it, will be doing the network deployment asp. got 30 odd pc's to do, but will let you know, how it goes.
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Got mine on 3-31 and installed it 4-1. I am not sure what I think, just yet. It does *seem* a little more sluggish than '08, and I am not sure that I like the ribbon, but it hasn't crashed yet, either. I do not consider myself a power user... but I can usually make acad do what I need it to do. Just my cent and a half...
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I am not sure that I like the ribbon
just in case you don't know, you can turn the ribbon off if you end up really not liking it and use your old toolbars
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Just got it, will be doing the network deployment asp. got 30 odd pc's to do, but will let you know, how it goes.
How are you handling this - since it's quite a bit different? Are you leaving the older version(s) installed? What about upgrade training? Or are you just throwing it at them to find out who will sink and who will swim? :wink:
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i downloaded and tried before buying 2009 architecture
i am not impressed, all the workspaces, i guess that is innovation...
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I am not sure that I like the ribbon
just in case you don't know, you can turn the ribbon off if you end up really not liking it and use your old toolbars
Thanks. I haven't really dug all that deep into it. I figure since I am willing to give the 'old college try..' and I'm not so invested that I can't change, I oughta give it a whirl before I dismiss it out of hand. Maybe there is some good stuff in there... allright, you can start/stop laughin anytime now
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I oughta give it a whirl before I dismiss it out of hand. Maybe there is some good stuff in there...
The Ribbon has grown on me over time to where I like it.. I like the fact that it has 3 different states it can be in (Full/Partial/Closed) so that it's not intrusive.
But I know that some people just aren't going to want to give it a shot straight out.
"The only constant is change" eh? :D
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I oughta give it a whirl before I dismiss it out of hand. Maybe there is some good stuff in there...
The Ribbon has grown on me over time to where I like it..
"The only constant is change" eh? :D
Amen, to that..
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how could that be constant if there has not been change since v14? i would say more that the constant is refreshed aesthetics for continued profit.
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how could that be constant if there has not been change since v14? i would say more that the constant is refreshed aesthetics for continued profit.
no change?
Come on, that's a stretch.
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Come on, that's a stretch.
I don't think the stretch command has changed since v14
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Come on, that's a stretch.
I don't think the stretch command has changed since v14
:-D
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haha
3d strech, now that would be scale1d right?
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[ignore user]
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Command: scale1d
Unknown command "SCALE1D". Press F1 for help.
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haha
3d strech, now that would be scale1d right?
... again?
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I would
LIKE LOVE to be able to use 2009. As it is, I was told this morning to "Get this thing ready to submit A.S.A.P., but it MUST be done in LDT3 since we will be working in tandem with <insert rival firm's name here>".
This "thing" is a flatland, small-lot, subdivision that was setup and started a few years ago to be a 4 phase project. Each phase fits perfectly at 20 scale on a 24x36 sheet. Now it is to be combined into 1 project and keeping it split up into those 4 sheet sets (grading, utilities, surface improvements, erosion, signing & striping) does not make sense. The boss says, just change the scale to 30 scale and it will all fit nicely, just like before........but that means the text is no longer the correct height, changing it changes the relationship to surrounding items, the profiles will need to be redone completely since 20 & 5 does not easily convert to 30 & 5. All of this would be much easier, if only I had C3D2009 as a choice to use.
<sigh> Off to my little world to 'fix' these drawings that would almost fix themselves if I could redo them a 2009 product.
Maybe I can convince the boss tomorrow morning that even keeping the 20 scale plans in 2 sheet sets is better than redoing the whole enchilada at 30 scale.
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Scale1D
Changes the size of selected objects in one direction.
Steps:
Select objects.
Pick an origin.
Type the scale factor, or pick two reference points.
The objects expand or contract in the single direction specified, without expanding the objects in the other directions.
History enabled…
Changing the input objects changes the output objects
like i said the Lisp you are trying to make exists in this command is one of my favorite commands
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Scale1D
Changes the size of selected objects in one direction.
Steps:
Select objects.
Pick an origin.
Type the scale factor, or pick two reference points.
The objects expand or contract in the single direction specified, without expanding the objects in the other directions.
History enabled…
Changing the input objects changes the output objects
like i said the Lisp you are trying to make exists in this command is one of my favorite commands
I think you're in the wrong thread, dude.
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Must be an IntelliRhino thing?
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So far with 2009, Reference Manager seems more stable :-)
The quick properties is neat but causes quite a bit of overhead on resources to negate its usefulness.
Unless you have a dual or quad core machine can't use it.
I like the ribbon system in concept, but the cui is lousy at editing it.
I have to close down and reopen AutoCAD completely every other edit,
otherwise the cui acts like it is doing something,
wastes a bunch of time, then does no changes when applied......
Also the ribbon seems to only do AutoCAD/MEP's stock ribbons or my custom ribbons.
Refuses to mix the two for some reason which sort of kills any potential for adoption.
The Enterprise cui and standard MEP cui seem to be in conflict constantly.
Some things seem faster, and I do like the quick standard toolbar being editable. :-)
I have had fatal errors occur but the system did not crash and close. it continued to work.
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"It's only a flesh wound" errors?
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I've run into that with 2008 a few times. I think it's a fatal error in an arx, not acad itself.
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"It's only a flesh wound" errors?"
LOL Monty Python errors would be considerably more enjoyable.
So far any work I did with it, no problems.
I'm stubborn, I want to see what advantages I can take with the new features.
Just painfully slow to redesign my customizations.
Using the cui causes all of the crashes so far.
I may just have to go back and totally redesign from scratch moving from 08 to 09.
And that is painfully slow with over 2000 buttons and routine combinations.
I have never liked the cui myself. But it is all we have to work with.
I have done some limited editing with TextPad outside of using AutoCAD with the cui.
But the new features I have to get used to the code structure before getting too anxious to do simple text editing.
Unfortunately it gets difficult to do large amounts of tool copy and pasting which is supposed to be the entire reason for having it. :ugly:
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Just painfully slow to redesign my customizations.
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And that is painfully slow with over 2000 buttons and routine combinations.
Jumpin' Jesus on a pogostick!!! Two THOUSAND??!?!? :-o
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[hijack]
Speaking of pogo sticks, saw this on a PBS (I think) station the other night:
http://www.vurtegopogostick.com/Vurtego/vertigo.php3
Check out the "Videos" section.
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Just painfully slow to redesign my customizations.
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And that is painfully slow with over 2000 buttons and routine combinations.
Jumpin' Jesus on a pogostick!!! Two THOUSAND??!?!? :-o
We have our own MEP interface already developed before ever using ABS/MEP.
It is all based on lisp routines and block libraries wrapped up into a decent package for 3 disciplines.
That is why MEP is not critical to us yet. I'm just slowly developing it to replace the legacy NCS interface.
Provided I can set things up to be intuitive for the users, they'll adopt it.
I'm trying to implement nearly 100 workstations and 80 users while minimizing training and costs by transparently controlling standards.
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I've had 3 shortcuts throw a wobbler so far.
I open up the 2008 pgp and copy the custom shortcuts at the end and paste them to the 2009 pgp at the end.
R, *REC had to be changed to R, *RECTANG as R, *RECTANGLE didn't work.
Not a big deal but it's worked for the last 3 versions and now it throws a wobbler and why would if fail?
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checked for duplicate keys?
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So far, DWF does not compose properly using my 2008 publishing configuration files either.
A few items I am noticing:
I don't need the blank dll files for every custom or stock cui file anymore.
This was a huge problem with the other interfaces previously.
Any networked files I could watch AutoCAD's performance get downright miserable as it searched for dll files I never called for including the acad.dll when just using osnaps! I used Etherreal and saw the program pinging my network feverishly for all sorts of garbage. I patched the holes by saving blank notepad files as filname.dll in the support folders. Once it found the filename it didn't ping like mad anymore.
The interface does not hang forever when I try to close it anymore like the last 2 versions have.
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[hijack]
Speaking of pogo sticks, saw this on a PBS (I think) station the other night:
http://www.vurtegopogostick.com/Vurtego/vertigo.php3
Check out the "Videos" section.
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I like how that one guy jumps clear over the little kid, completely putting him and his pogo-stick-jumping skeelz to shame!
"In yo' face, kid!!"
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That was major kewl!
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Any networked files I could watch AutoCAD's performance get downright miserable as it searched for dll files I never called for including the acad.dll when just using osnaps! I used Etherreal and saw the program pinging my network feverishly for all sorts of garbage. I patched the holes by saving blank notepad files as filname.dll in the support folders. Once it found the filename it didn't ping like mad anymore.
Yeah, Autodesk stuff does really bizarre things when networks are involved. Just trying to export a file or an XML dump to the server out of Civil-3D causes at least a 20x performance drop - no idea why. The only difference is the location of the exported file - if it's out on a network drive, the performance nose-dives big time. Similar issues seem to strike operations involving the Survey Database. I haven't had a chance yet to see if these issues have been addressed in 2009.
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checked for duplicate keys?
; Make any changes or additions to the default AutoCAD command aliases in
; this section to ensure successful migration of these settings when you
; upgrade to the next version of AutoCAD. If a command alias appears more
; than once in this file, items in the User Defined Command Alias take
; precedence over duplicates that appear earlier in the file.
Shouldn't have to.
Another one
Command: CV Unknown command "CHAMFER". Press F1 for help.
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CHAMFER, TRIM, EXPLODE, all might be undefined in the MEP.mnl file :ugly:
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I've had 3 shortcuts throw a wobbler so far.
I open up the 2008 pgp and copy the custom shortcuts at the end and paste them to the 2009 pgp at the end.
R, *REC had to be changed to R, *RECTANG as R, *RECTANGLE didn't work.
Not a big deal but it's worked for the last 3 versions and now it throws a wobbler and why would if fail?
The command name has been RECTANG forever, AFAIK. Your previous pgp probably pointed to a now-defunct pre-defined shortcut. Don't know why they would have taken it out, but it's why my PGP always points to the full command name.
CHAMFER's still a command, so I don't know why that one would break.
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Well... I've gone through about 2 work days of using this software now.
Finally have something worth putting in this thread:
The dynamic spell check is cool. I often forget to hit SP periodically or before plotting, so having Autocad throw it in my face that I screwed up is nice. Obviously there're things that aren't in the dictionary that belong in the drawing... but yea... nice feature. Well done, so far as I can tell. *nods*
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The new upgrades to spell check, xclip and the find are something that I am excited about. Especially the spell check.
Just these two sentences above had 4 spelling errors. Thanks Firefox
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The new upgrades to spell check, xclip and the find are something that I am excited about. Especially the spell check.
Just these two sentences above had 4 spelling errors. Thanks Firefox
Oh yea, the xclip is great too, I expect, but haven't had a chance to try 'er out. That's a goodie.
Oh, and I -like- the fact that you can TURN OFF the rollover tooltips, that you can TURN ON the model/paper tabs (instead of the stupid quick view drawings/tabs)
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Oh yea, the xclip is great too, I expect, but haven't had a chance to try 'er out. That's a goodie.
Oh, and I -like- the fact that you can TURN OFF the rollover tooltips, that you can TURN ON the model/paper tabs (instead of the stupid quick view drawings/tabs)
As long as I can turn off the doo dads I am happy. And if I can turn the ribbon back into the 08's dashboard. I am loving that especially when it is on the second monitor. Sweeeeeet.
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Oh yea, the xclip is great too, I expect, but haven't had a chance to try 'er out. That's a goodie.
Oh, and I -like- the fact that you can TURN OFF the rollover tooltips, that you can TURN ON the model/paper tabs (instead of the stupid quick view drawings/tabs)
As long as I can turn off the doo dads I am happy. And if I can turn the ribbon back into the 08's dashboard. I am loving that especially when it is on the second monitor. Sweeeeeet.
Well... if you're a dashboard junkie, it's my impression that once the bugs are worked out... you may like the Ribbon's abilities moreso. The CUI is used to customize it fully though there have been some oddities I've read on. Dashboard/Ribbon is not my style, but I'm not above looking into it... just not before I come to terms with 09 in general first. It's supposed to be more flexible and powerful and customizable than the dashboard was, so hopefully it's a cool upgrade for you.
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08"s dashboard was customizable. I have added my customized tool bar (only one for for the once a month commands) and the two core tool bars that were not a part of the default dashboard. With second monitor there even less picks or hovers. Two monitors are nice convenience (I wont dig up the productivity horse)
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Anything new and cool with Dynamic Blocks?
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I don't see anything yet.
Nothing obvious at least.
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Anything new and cool with Dynamic Blocks?
Aren't the grip tooltips new? Or was that 2008?
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Anything new and cool with Dynamic Blocks?
Aren't the grip tooltips new? Or was that 2008?
'08 I believe - I know it isn't 2009.
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One peeve I got with MEP.
Less than 1% of building design projects in the U.S. are in Metric, and Autodesk keeps designing their tutorials in Metric.
Just makes me have a four letter word loop everytime they do it. :realmad:
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Anybody try to plot to a PDF yet?
How bad did they screw it up this time?
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One peeve I got with MEP.
Less than 1% of building design projects in the U.S. are in Metric, and Autodesk keeps designing their tutorials in Metric.
Just makes me have a four letter word loop everytime they do it. :realmad:
The phrase Blind them with Brilliance, or Baffle them with Buttspakle comes to mind.
They do this to distract the students from learning what they should be for the money they pay.
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The phrase Blind them with Brilliance, or Baffle them with Buttspakle comes to mind.
They do this to distract the students from learning what they should be for the money they pay.
Buttspakle?!?! :?
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The phrase Blind them with Brilliance, or Baffle them with Buttspakle comes to mind.
They do this to distract the students from learning what they should be for the money they pay.
Buttspakle?!?! :?
*adds to dictionary for future use*
I like it!
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Ted, I use the latest version of AcroPlot that works with 2009.
I will check out the PDF system in 2009 though.
Always nice to have a backup for the simple fact PDF is a compatibility problem with so many variations out there.
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The phrase Blind them with Brilliance, or Baffle them with Buttspakle comes to mind.
They do this to distract the students from learning what they should be for the money they pay.
Buttspakle?!?! :?
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Hehehehehe.... (http://www.123lovepoems.com/media/video/crackspackle.wmv)
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Just got the trial and Dang it's So Slow. Just terrible :cry:
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Agreed. Refedit is driving me crazy.
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It seems that Autodesk has taken the direction of Microsoft and implemented so many flashy features that it requires too many clock cycles to have any decent performance, thus the system requirements will increase. The ribbons just scratch the surface.
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Disable the communication center to begin with.
If you want help or spammed blogs to your intwerface use your browser :ugly:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Autodesk\AutoCAD\R17.2\ACAD-7006:409\Applications\InfoCenterAcConn]
"LOADCTRLS"=dword:00000000
"LOADER"="C:\\Program Files\\AutoCAD MEP 2009\\AcInfoCenterConn.DLL"
"DESCRIPTION"="AutoCAD InfoCenterAcConn addin"
"MANAGED"=dword:00000001
Me, I am disabling the ribbon.
I'll stick with pulldowns, toolbars, flyouts, & palettes.
I will however put the Quick Access Toolbar to good use :kewl:
Once these are setup in cui & profile it runs pretty good.
I can toggle quick properties on or off.
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Select a linear dimension.
Right click.
How long has "Flip Arrow" been there?
How long have we been able to do that?
I must say. THAT ROCKS. Way too often, Autocad forces the arrows into a confusing mess, when chaining dimensions, and flipping them makes for awesomeness.
I hope this is new, and I wasn't able to do this before, because it'll make me feel better for just now noticing it, since they put it on the right click menu. Pretty cool, either way.
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Select a linear dimension.
Right click.
How long has "Flip Arrow" been there?
How long have we been able to do that?
I must say. THAT ROCKS. Way too often, Autocad forces the arrows into a confusing mess, when chaining dimensions, and flipping them makes for awesomeness.
I hope this is new, and I wasn't able to do this before, because it'll make me feel better for just now noticing it, since they put it on the right click menu. Pretty cool, either way.
Back to 2006 :evil:
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Actually I jumped from 2004 to 06, so it is even possible that 2005 already had it!
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Also, it seems that I can no longer have my command line at the top but underneath the tool bars. My life is ruined! This is how I like it!
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I managed that configuration with the Ribbon but not with the menu bar active.
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Wow, that command line placement is pretty weird... not being able to have it BELOW the toolbars...
Was the "Flip Arrow" always on the right click menu, though? I swear I don't think I've seen it there before, and I'm a right-click-menu fiend.
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I was able to have the ribbon and command line split the same screen area on the horizontal.
I wish I could do 2 or 3 toolbar levels next to the command line instead.
So far pull down menus and toolbars do everything I need and I don't see any advantage to the ribbon.
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Was the "Flip Arrow" always on the right click menu, though? I swear I don't think I've seen it there before, and I'm a right-click-menu fiend.
Yep on R-C menu.
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Was the "Flip Arrow" always on the right click menu, though? I swear I don't think I've seen it there before, and I'm a right-click-menu fiend.
Yep on R-C menu.
*smacks forehead*
I guess I'm one of those users who only sees what he's looking for, and the rest of the stuff is just "in the way" :roll: Time to open my eyes!
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Have you noticed the new MTEXT formatting? Center/right/decimal justification tabs, control line spacing for individual lines in an MTEXT, etc.? These were added in 2008, and I use them a fair bit.
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Sorry to necro an old thread, but I figure there're plenty of threads, already, on general changes and additions to 2009 environment, without me starting another.
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How is anyone getting along with the new layer manage?
I'd read that they will -NOT- have "classiclayer" in future releases, after 2009 (whether they change their mind or not, I dunno) so I have specifically NOT modified buttons and commands for the new layer palette, to open the classic... forcing myself to use, and get used to, the new.
I am finding it horrible to work with. I can't find any other way for it to always be open other than have it docked to one side, on auto-hide. This is fine for me, as I do that normally with other palettes (left; tool palettes, referece manager, properties. Right; Visual styles, materials (when needed), design center, and now layers)
However, I find actually trying to WORK with the blasted thing is rediculous. Adding more than one layer at a time is a pain.
1) Hover mouse over bar on the right to expand the pallete
2) Click 'new layer'
3) Type in new name, enter to finish
4) Click color to change layer color, color interface pops up, click color
5) While I moved my mouse to the color picker, Layer Palette has no hidden again
6) Hover mouse back over layer palette to expand it
7) ???
8) LOSS OF PROFIT!
Seriously there is a hesitation for the palette to open, and I have to suffer it every time I add a layer! This is rediculous. Horrible, horrible, horrible, foresight by the designers... and they want to force us to migrate to this new piece of crap?
It seems one mantra they had in mind for the new features was to keep everything hidden and out of view, to free up desk space. Great, all for it, I do the same, myself. However, they make it so that it hides even when you NEED IT!
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So this is the replacement for the paperspace tabs, yea?
Quick view layouts... so now I have to click a button down at the bottom right of the screen (I'm getting used to the graphic changes, so am having to spend less time searching for which is which, now) to bring up quick view layouts... now I click which one I want, and it activates.
Not bad... it's an extra click, but not horrible. I only have one layout per drawing 99% of the time, so it loads quick enough, and automatically disappears once you have activated a layout/model space, so it hides itself at the appropriate time.
However, managing viewports stinks. This hiding crap DOES get in the way here.
1) Click 'quick layouts' button
2) Delete layout
3) Interface hides so you have to restart the process to delete many layouts
1) Click 'quick layouts' button
2) Right click on one, select 'move or copy'
3) It brings up the OLD window for moving/copying layouts.
We -just- got, in 2008, the ability to drag viewports on the layout-tab bar, to rearrange them. We JUST got the ability to double click on the tab to rename it. WHY, then, do they use -old- technology that they -know- users dislike, in their new product? Why can we not drag and drop to rearrange layouts?! The old move/copy window was bad enough that users repeatedly requesting a better way, and were seen as legitimate enough concerns to actually implement it... and one year later we are told to use this new way that incorporates the move/copy window that many of us hated?!
Hint: you can turn the model/paper tabs back on, and I have, but I want to use the new technology and get used to it in the event that they make old ways unusable like the Layer Palette...
-------------Status Buttons (DYN, DUCS, OSNAPS, ORTHO, POLAR, etc)--------
New graphics which is a bit annoying, but whatever... tip of an iceberg. One thing I did that helped me get used to it was click on the arrow on the far bottom right, to customize the status bar... and turned off all icons that I do not use. Turned off snap, grid, ducs, dyn input, ortho, lineweight display... all I have is polar, osnaps, and otrack. Those are the only three I ever change, and I actually never really change them, they just sometimes get reset by a rogue LISP or if I cancel out too soon or too hard during a command.
Additional status bar items : layout scale... added a "hide xref scales" which may not fix the problem, but at least it hides the symptom that bugged us all. Gotta love that. I keep it checked... of course there are times when it can be handy to use an xref scale, such as if I set up a custom scale, but that's really rare for me.
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heh, contrary to most of what I see from people who bother to comment on it... I like it.
It matches my XP theme real close (Zune, dl'd from some MS site)
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That's about all the comments I got so far.
I'd like to know what people think about the layer palette though. Has anyone gotten used to it and liked it yet? If so, how do you use it, what problems did you run in to, and how did you overcome them?
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AutoCad 2009 migrated all my settings successfully, so I haven't had any problems so far... but I'm sure I'll find something.
AFA the Layer Manager, I use it in the same manner as I always have. I have the Layers Toolbar up, and frequently use the pulldown, but when needed, I just click on the LPM, and it works as it always has (non docked, non hidden).
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I haven't found an issue moving the command line to the top or the bottom.
I use the MdiTab17.arx file for drawing tabs as well which works nicely.
I have no real use for the Model/Paper buttons on the bottom and switch back to layout tabs for my default worspaces.
Stability?..... :lmao:
Crashes, memory leaks, I won't be doing a full implementation until I see if SP1 fixes MEP 2009.
I have gutted and gotten rid of the ribbon completely in every Enterprise Workspace.
The Ribbon poses no resource or productivity advantage at all, it actually detracts from performance.
Quick Access Toolbar - Awesome!
Hide menu's to the "A" - Kewl!
The Layer Manager Palette - Nice - not implemented for the MEP.cui, only the acad.cui
Civil Land Desktop files crash or hang indefinately with 2009 Vanilla & MEP constantly if any audit or recover is attempted.
Either new libraries or older versions. Its pretty insane.
Literally a complete waste of everyones time to implement if it isn't compatible or causes huge production slow downs.
LDT Needs to -ExportToAutoCAD if they send their files out to Clients, seriously, it can't possibly pose enough benefit vs. the obstacles it presents.
I would love to see the MEP tools go completely with Palettes like the Layer Manager, so far the same as ABS 2007...
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@Deeg:
Yea, I use the layer toolbar for changing active layer, assigning an object to new layer and such as well, still.
So as far as layer management (creating new, modifying existing [color, plot option, whatever] change ltypes...) you open the new layer manager, and then close it when done?
I may end up doing that... gotta admit, I was stuck on it being a palette and thus having to dock it... I never used palettes simply as a window, so I was too stuck-in-the-box-thinking about it and approached it close minded.
I'll keep that in mind for the other users when I give them a demo of the changes, when we upgrade... they'll just have to remember to his the "X" at the upper right/left instead of "OK"
@KewlToyZ
I haven't had an issue with memory leaks or crashes so far. I do notice it uses a decent bit more CPU power even when 'idle' with one drawing open, than 2008, though.
Of course I'm not on MEP but vanilla.
I am not as keen on the menu's being hidden, as I often work in multiple drawings at a time, and use the "window" pull down to switch often... I haven't delved into Quick View Drawings yet, but will try it.
I'm not keen on the extra click the "A" takes, as well as the labyrinth-like mouse moving to get to the right place, either, is all
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Ok so here is my only real and, so far, unrelenting CON for the new layer manager. It's real time. There is no "make change, THEN apply"... if I am going down a list of layers to freeze, and choose to click as I go, rather than make my selection and THEN freeze... it's doing a REGEN on the drawing every time I click and turning off that layer.
This can get quite laggy and interfere with fluid user interfacing. I tend to not hold CTRL and select layers THEN make the mod, because I sometimes mess up and have to restart the selection set process and it can be annoying sometimes... anyways... that's it
It's real-time and that can be a hinderence.
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@KewlToyZ
I haven't had an issue with memory leaks or crashes so far. I do notice it uses a decent bit more CPU power even when 'idle' with one drawing open, than 2008, though.
Of course I'm not on MEP but vanilla.
I am not as keen on the menu's being hidden, as I often work in multiple drawings at a time, and use the "window" pull down to switch often... I haven't delved into Quick View Drawings yet, but will try it.
I'm not keen on the extra click the "A" takes, as well as the labyrinth-like mouse moving to get to the right place, either, is all
As far as tracking or flipping through drawings.. this rocks:
Try this attached file in your support folder.
Add this line to your mnl file:
; NOTE: use your current local support folder path.
; Do not use shared network folders for these as everyone will have a copy open over the network then cutting into bandwidth.
(arxload "C:\\_KTA 2009\\Support\\MdiTab17.arx")
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Oops forgot the file....
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If that's the one Shaan Hurley released on his blog (iirc) then we have it here. One of the bosses uses it with fervid love, the other two didn't care enough to try it out. I gave it a whirl, but found I liked the cleaner screen and drawing space more... I use CTRL+Tab if I only have a few open, and after getting used to the menu browser some more, find it to be a-ok.
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bah
Just tried out one of the major bugs I had encountered and discovered that it still exists.
SR# 1-3603497271 was discovered and confirmed in April, and has yet to be fixed. It was commented on as being major and obvious, on the phone, with the tech, but I guess it wasn't major or obvious enough... or it didn't matter that he thought it was major or obvious.
But hey, I guess I don't NEED to use the material editor...
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If they fixed all the bugs in service packs, people might not install the new version every time one comes out, and Autodesk really doesn't want to deal with people who aren't on the latest version. And really, they aren't even too interested in those people; the standard comment is that if you want to have any real impact on product development, you must be in the beta program. And if that isn't an option because the latest beta release is too buggy for you, well you can always ditch Autodesk for their competitors...
At least, that's what I've been told on the Autodesk NGs.
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Beta doesn't solve anything.
I tried that.
Took up too much time with identical results to the issue I just reported here, via support request.
If they want to pay me, then I'll beta test... until then, it isn't worth it.. especially if my voice isn't heard anyway.
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I've been attempting to cultivate a more laid-back approach, and worry about more-important things.
Like the important topic for today - salsas. Why is it that many Mexican restaurants have a choice between mild and hot salsas, but invariably, the mild salsa tastes better than the hot? For example, the mild might have this well-balanced cilantro-onion-garlic blend that tastes great, but there's no kick. Meanwhile, the hot has a nice spicy zing, but lacks the wonderful flavors found in the mild. Why is that?
:-D
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I've been attempting to cultivate a more laid-back approach, and worry about more-important things.
Like the important topic for today - salsas. Why is it that many Mexican restaurants have a choice between mild and hot salsas, but invariably, the mild salsa tastes better than the hot? For example, the mild might have this well-balanced cilantro-onion-garlic blend that tastes great, but there's no kick. Meanwhile, the hot has a nice spicy zing, but lacks the wonderful flavors found in the mild. Why is that?
:-D
Eso suena bien..... se antoja preparar una carnita azada, para este fin de semana y hacer unas salsitas y ponerle a los tacos.... bueno..... :)
Una pregunta es la salsa parte de AutoCAD 2009.... viene con salsa?..... :lol:
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If it doesn't, maybe it should. Might make it easier to swallow Civil-3D. :-D