TheSwamp
CAD Forums => CAD General => Topic started by: Notsober on February 13, 2008, 10:22:53 AM
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We have a C_S_A.ctb plotstyle that we use, it's the same exact file from the server that was loaded onto 4 machines. Mine is the only one that plots out differently (easier to read, easier on the eyes, lineweights not too thick, etc...) :evil:
but I still just can't figure out why this is happening... mainly, the text and a couple key layer line/pen weights are lighter than when plotted from the other 3 machines.
I've compared (c_s_a_old.ctb and c_s_a_new.ctb are both the same) and even tried replacing the .ctb file, but to no avail... what's going on?
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Do you have "Scale Lineweights" checked?
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Do you have "Scale Lineweights" checked?
do you mean "Display Lineweights" and then the bar adjusted?
or where exactly is this "Scale Lineweights" box supposed to be? I have AutoCAD 2004. My best guess of where you're talkin about is under the 'Tools' pulldown, 'Options', then the 'User Preferences' tab... at the bottom, click on 'Lineweight Settings'.
Is this where you mean?
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It's in the plot dialog box under the plot settings tab, right near plot scale.
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no it's NOT checked, and it's greyed out on all 4 machines...
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Right near there under "Plot Options" is "Plot with plot styles". Make sure that is checked. The only other thing I can think it might be is different versions of your plotter driver. Beyond that, I have no idea.
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Did you notice our icons?
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Right near there under "Plot Options" is "Plot with plot styles". Make sure that is checked. The only other thing I can think it might be is different versions of your plotter driver. Beyond that, I have no idea.
yes this checked... not being rude, but duh. How can I plot with a C_S_A.ctb plotstyle if that box is not checked?
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Did you notice our icons?
huh? our icons... :loco:
??? lol
oh you mean YOUR avatar.... the snail running over the turtle! HAHA!!
...and my wanting to go fast...
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Right near there under "Plot Options" is "Plot with plot styles". Make sure that is checked. The only other thing I can think it might be is different versions of your plotter driver. Beyond that, I have no idea.
yes this checked... not being rude, but duh. How can I plot with a C_S_A.ctb plotstyle if that box is not checked?
Dunno.
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well i'd like to think someone here can help...
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and btw, the plotter i'm using is one that's supplied by Autodesk.
C:\Program Files\AutoCAD 2004\Drv\gdiplot8.hdi
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Are you getting the different results from the same DWG?
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yes, i'm opening the SAME dwg to test this problem.
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Are you sure all computers are using the same PC3 file? (You really should be using STB.....) :lmao: Sorry MP...I had to.
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Are you sure all computers are using the same PC3 file? (You really should be using STB.....) :lmao: Sorry MP...I had to.
you lost me.
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http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=21368.0;topicseen
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:-D
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I was being serious (mostly). What PC3 file is being used?
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Also check to make sure you're all using the same driver. Just this morning I had a user who couldn't print to the extent of the sheet that the rest of us could... his effective printing area was smaller than ours... somehow he had a different plotter driver.
Start > Printers/Fax > (Plotter Name)
That'll pop up a window about the plotter. On the "Advanced" tab, most likely (probably varies brand to brand) you can see the name of the driver. Check to ensure that driver is identical to the other users' drivers.
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everything seems to be exactly the same on all 4 machines!! even the plotter driver.
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bah humbug!
my engineer is gettin frustrated with me, now he thinks I did something to *cause* this!
I didn't change squat! :x
next, they want to try to re-install my AutoCAD to see if that will fix the "problem". This isn't necessary, is it??
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No, but it doesnt hurt. I would copy all the "plotting files" from another machine first
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What about print quality in the printing preferences? Are you sure it has anything to do with AutoCAD?
Try printing a photo from all four machines from ... the same program on each.
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What about print quality in the printing preferences? Are you sure it has anything to do with AutoCAD?
Try printing a photo from all four machines from ... the same program on each.
no avail... printing preferences are all the same too.
we plotted a pdf scanned dwg, all plotted the same. Just .dwg's are different. Mine is the only one that's different. (I honestly think that mine reads better, but my opinion doesn't matter in this office...)
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What about if you print to a different printer or to a PDF?
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plotted to a different printer. same outcome.
plotted using 'Windows Default System Printer.pc3' - again, same outcome.
:doa:
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Don't know, dude... Sorry.
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Well it seems obvious that it's something in Autocad... but I'm exhausted of possibilities too.
Run me through your plotting setup, if you will.
Do you use Page Setups?
PC3's (or other variant) or standard windows plotter driver?
What about your plot style file? CTB/STB, and where are they located (meaning, local or network?)
Check the default settings for all your regular plot window stuff... shade plot, quality, all plot options, blah blah blah...
that's about all I can think of atm.
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we don't use page setups.
we don't typically use pc3's either. basically just the standard windows plotter driver.
we use what we call C_S_A.ctb, copied from the server directly to each HD to C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\Autodesk\AutoCAD 2004\R16.0\enu\Plot Styles
I reset all the default settings on at least 2 of the machines. Plotted 3 different dwgs, same outcome.
I'm not doubting that reinstalling ACAD will solve the problem, but at this point, I'm not hopeful either.
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I don't know... It sounds like it could be something like "Use Object Lineweight" or "Use Object Colour" on one or the other machines.
Don't mean to ask stupid questions but when you're changing the settings, you're selecting all of the colours, right? Not just the top one?
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i haven't changed any of the settings.
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i haven't changed any of the settings.
Maybe you should :?
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Have you copied the ctb file from one of the good computers to the bad one?
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What's in your startup LSP routine?
Yes, it is a long shot, but at this point I'm grasping at straws :\
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Have you copied the ctb file from one of the good computers to the bad one?
yes, i copied the ctb file. All 4 machines are supposedly exactly the same.
I even checked the "screening"... all 255 colors are 100%.
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In the table view of your ctb file, do any of them have "enable dithering" on?
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What's in your startup LSP routine?
Yes, it is a long shot, but at this point I'm grasping at straws :\
In Startup suite, I have loaded:
COPYROT.lsp
fix_qleader_reactor.lsp
revspline.lsp
steel.lsp
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In the table view of your ctb file, do any of them have "enable dithering" on?
no. none are checked.
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What's in your startup LSP routine?
Yes, it is a long shot, but at this point I'm grasping at straws :\
In Startup suite, I have loaded:
COPYROT.lsp
fix_qleader_reactor.lsp
revspline.lsp
steel.lsp
What do you have at the bottom of your acaddoc.lsp or acaddoc2008.lsp (or w/e version) ?
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I'm pretty sure I'm out of guesses.
You know the sound when you're sucking at a straw when there's no pop left in the cup? Yeah... that's what I'm getting. :)
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here are some screenshots of my plot settings, this is also exact the same on all 4 machines...
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What do you have at the bottom of your acaddoc.lsp or acaddoc2008.lsp (or w/e version) ?
i did a search on my comp of acaddoc.lsp
no matches.
my bad... i needed to look for acad2004doc.lsp
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Just out of curiosity, have you tried re-adding the printer on the machine that isn't like the others?
(Sorry... I instantly had this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZIvgQ9ik48) pop in my head....)
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Just out of curiosity, have you tried re-adding the printer on the machine that isn't like the others?
HOLY CARP is appropriate here...
now, why the hell did this work?
Edit: (sorry dude, it wasn't)
M-dub
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It DID work? Well, whaddaya know... Trial and error... lots and lots of error. :-D
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but right now though I'm having to go thru someone else's computer (over the network....)
I can't clean install the printer directly, for some reason... I just grabbed IT, and she won't help. (Not that I care for her help anyways)
M-dub, you're the bomb!
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:)
At least SOMEONE thinks so! :-D
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okay, i'm all fixed up! I had to act like IT today... YAY!
now where's my pay raise??
seriously tho, thanks to everyone for putting up with me today!
NO!!!
It only "works" when I go thru someone else's computer to access the particular plotter! When I re-install the plotter on my machine, it stayed the same when I plotted.
???????????????? WTF is goin on ???????????????
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oh well... i'll fix it tomorrow....
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D'oh!
Oh well... Guess I'm back to not being the bomb. :(
See you tomorrow.
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we use what we call C_S_A.ctb, copied from the server directly to each HD to C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\Autodesk\AutoCAD 2004\R16.0\enu\Plot Styles
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Out of curiosity why copy this file to the local drive? Why not just point all the users to the same file?
Also if another file of the same name exists in the path ahead of this one than they maybe looking at something different than you think. Order of pathing...
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Both very good points, AZ! :)
We all point to the same ones on the network for the majority of our printing needs...
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I just grabbed IT, and she won't help.
Sounds like a personal problem and/or grounds for a sexual harassment lawsuit! :wink:
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we use what we call C_S_A.ctb, copied from the server directly to each HD to C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\Autodesk\AutoCAD 2004\R16.0\enu\Plot Styles
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Out of curiosity why copy this file to the local drive? Why not just point all the users to the same file?
Also if another file of the same name exists in the path ahead of this one than they maybe looking at something different than you think. Order of pathing...
cuz we have a not-so-know-it-all for IT. Engineer also wants things done HIS way, yet knows little to nothing about CAD, nor why certain things are easier. He prefers everything to be done the hard way. Like, for example - he despises my using paperspace and viewports. So he tells me we never have time for him to learn it... sheesh.
but that's why i'm a peon.
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So did that fix it, and if so, M-Dub, why did you think of that
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we use what we call C_S_A.ctb, copied from the server directly to each HD to C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\Autodesk\AutoCAD 2004\R16.0\enu\Plot Styles
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Out of curiosity why copy this file to the local drive? Why not just point all the users to the same file?
Also if another file of the same name exists in the path ahead of this one than they maybe looking at something different than you think. Order of pathing...
cuz we have a not-so-know-it-all for IT. Engineer also wants things done HIS way, yet knows little to nothing about CAD, nor why certain things are easier. He prefers everything to be done the hard way. Like, for example - he despises my using paperspace and viewports. So he tells me we never have time for him to learn it... sheesh.
but that's why i'm a peon.
He doesn't have time to learn it, yet he has plenty of time to complain about it. I've seen that a lot lately so I know exactly how you feel.
Just another one of those "stupid" questions but have you tried shutting down the PC entirely. I've found that sometimes works when a reboot doesn't (or has this already been covered - sorry, I haven't been following the ENTIRE thread).
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So did that fix it, and if so, M-Dub, why did you think of that
Nope, it didn't work...
http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=21381.msg259177#msg259177
It was just one of my "Trial and Error" theories. It sounded good at the time.
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OOOHHH!!! I'VE GOT IT!!!
Just swap YOUR computer with one that works! Then it won't be your problem anymore! (sorry, I can't think of anything that hasn't already been mentioned)
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sorry, I haven't been following the ENTIRE thread).
this "problem" has been a "problem" for quite some time now. Just so happened, it was yesterday that the eng. decided to finally threaten to tell on me if I didn't *fix* it.
:ugly:
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When you reinstalled the printer, did you remove the driver associated with it before reinstalling (Printers and Faxes>>File>>Server Properties>>Drivers tab)?
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it only works to his liking when I plot thru someone else's computer over the network, which I think is stupid.
If I can't get this *fixed* by the end of the day, he wants me to have IT re-install AutoCAD on my machine... evidently he knows more about it than I do (i doubt this will *fix* the "problem".
problem (n.) From Ancient Greek πρόβλημα (próblēma) "anything thrown forward, hindrance, obstacle, anything projecting, a headland, promontory", from προβάλλω (probállō) "to throw or lay something in front of someone, to put forward", from prefix προ- (pro-) "in front of" + βάλλω (bállo) "to throw, to cast, to hurl".
In other words "problem" = picky engineer :-D
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When you reinstalled the printer, did you remove the driver associated with it before reinstalling (Printers and Faxes>>File>>Server Properties>>Drivers tab)?
yes, several times.
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we use what we call C_S_A.ctb, copied from the server directly to each HD to C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\Autodesk\AutoCAD 2004\R16.0\enu\Plot Styles
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Out of curiosity why copy this file to the local drive? Why not just point all the users to the same file?
Also if another file of the same name exists in the path ahead of this one than they maybe looking at something different than you think. Order of pathing...
cuz we have a not-so-know-it-all for IT. Engineer also wants things done HIS way, yet knows little to nothing about CAD, nor why certain things are easier. He prefers everything to be done the hard way. Like, for example - he despises my using paperspace and viewports. So he tells me we never have time for him to learn it... sheesh.
but that's why i'm a peon.
Did you look into either of Arizona's suggestions?
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we use what we call C_S_A.ctb, copied from the server directly to each HD to C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\Autodesk\AutoCAD 2004\R16.0\enu\Plot Styles
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Out of curiosity why copy this file to the local drive? Why not just point all the users to the same file?
Also if another file of the same name exists in the path ahead of this one than they maybe looking at something different than you think. Order of pathing...
cuz we have a not-so-know-it-all for IT. Engineer also wants things done HIS way, yet knows little to nothing about CAD, nor why certain things are easier. He prefers everything to be done the hard way. Like, for example - he despises my using paperspace and viewports. So he tells me we never have time for him to learn it... sheesh.
but that's why i'm a peon.
Did you look into either of Arizona's suggestions?
i acknowledged the suggestion, but that's as far as I can go. They want the file to be on local disk. No, there's no other file named C_S_A.ctb and the path IS the same on all 4 machines. However, I now don't think it has anything to do with the .ctb file. I believe it's a different issue.
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having all 4 machines point to the same file on the server is not possible (according to IT) for that the drive letter on each machine is different.
for example: on machine 1 - [Z:\Current Projects Folder\]
but on machine 2 - the drive letter could be a Y instead...
don't know why this would make a difference. But like I mentioned earlier, we do have a "not-so-know-it-all" for IT.
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You could use the \\servername\folder\ path? That is constant.
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having all 4 machines point to the same file on the server is not possible (according to IT) for that the drive letter on each machine is different.
for example: on machine 1 - [Z:\Current Projects Folder\]
but on machine 2 - the drive letter could be a Y instead...
don't know why this would make a difference. But like I mentioned earlier, we do have a "not-so-know-it-all" for IT.
That's like, IT 101 right there! Sounds like IT is about as sharp as a box of marbles!!
So each user gets his/her own letter of the alphabet for a network drive? What if you have 27 people working? Someone's gonna be SOL!! :-D
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lol the drive letter is not the same?!!? hahahahahah I'm an IT know-nothing and even I see that as being dumb.
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It IS asking for trouble, in my opinion. I don't know about Dumb, but I think it's smarter to make sure everyone has the same drive mappings.
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i think the point being here is that IT is one thing, CAD Manager is another. And she's neither. We don't have an official CAD Manager, so I'm on my own here.
besides, how the hell do I point Acad to pick up the .ctb file from the server? As that according to the list shown in the screenshot, those files are found on my local disk.
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You have to change the Plot Styles path under Options>>Files>Printer Support Files Path>>Plot Style Table Search Path
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i think the point being here is that IT is one thing, CAD Manager is another. And she's neither. We don't have an official CAD Manager, so I'm on my own here.
besides, how the hell do I point Acad to pick up the .ctb file from the server? As that according to the list shown in the screenshot, those files are found on my local disk.
I don't remember exactly for your version of Acad, but in 2008....
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besides, how the hell do I point Acad to pick up the .ctb file from the server? As that according to the list shown in the screenshot, those files are found on my local disk.
I BELIEVE that if those files were NOT found on your local disk, Acad would refer to your search paths and if everyone had a network drive mapped such as L:\CADSupport\PlotStyles or some such thing, it would find them there and you'd be good to go. One copy of each .ctb file instead of four individual files.
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...we use what we call C_S_A.ctb, copied from the server directly to each HD to C:\Documents and Settings\User\Application Data\Autodesk\AutoCAD 2004\R16.0\enu\Plot Styles...
Sorry if this was already mentioned. I don't have time to read the other 4 pages of the thread right now.
You may all have the same CTB available in C:\Documents and settings\User\Application Data\Autodesk\AutoCAD 2004\R16.0\enu\Plot Styles, but are you all pointing to that same path to look for the CTB under the File Options? If one machine has a different search path (or the paths in a different order) then a faulty CTB file may be being called up.
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okay, i specified where to look for c_s_a.ctb on the server.
still have the same problem though, unless I plot thru someone else's machine over the network.
my plots are plotting "lighter", and evidently the engineer doesn't like this. He likes my lines to be harder on the eyes.
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Honestly, what you're describing is that you're plotting with like a "0" lineweight or something very small. It sounds like everyone else is plotting with either a heavier lineweight or using object lineweight.
Do a search on your machine and a "good" machine in the root of C:\ for *.ctb and see if there are any others.
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OK, sorry, I did now take the time to read all 5 pages (I'm gonna be so late for work :roll: )
Looks like pathing is not the problem.
Is it possible that your advanced plotter settings are over-riding some setting of the printer (like "poster mode" or something) and that this is not being done on the other machines?
It seems that it works OK if you plot through another machine which means you're actually using the driver installed on that other machine as well as the CTB there, right?
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I know I've experienced strange goings on if I set up a print (change settings on the plot dialog box) and then do a Full Preview, then right click and hit Exit rather than hitting Plot. When I click Exit, it goes back to the plot dialog box but I lose all of the settings I just changed prior to viewing the full preview. Might this come into play for you?
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OK, sorry, I did now take the time to read all 5 pages (I'm gonna be so late for work :roll: )
Looks like pathing is not the problem.
Is it possible that your advanced plotter settings are over-riding some setting of the printer (like "poster mode" or something) and that this is not being done on the other machines?
It seems that it works OK if you plot through another machine which means you're actually using the driver installed on that other machine as well as the CTB there, right?
this would seem to be the case.
but i don't know where to start, cuz everything that I look at between all 4 machines, everything (all the settings) are the same :|
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I know I've experienced strange goings on if I set up a print (change settings on the plot dialog box) and then do a Full Preview, then right click and hit Exit rather than hitting Plot. When I click Exit, it goes back to the plot dialog box but I lose all of the settings I just changed prior to viewing the full preview. Might this come into play for you?
no this isn't the problem... i know exactly what you're talking about.
and hey, I'm not necessarily a noob with all of this, just most some of it! LoL.
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No one's saying you're a noob...
This issue has got all of us pretty puzzled, hence the 6 pages of replies.
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Honestly, what you're describing is that you're plotting with like a "0" lineweight or something very small. It sounds like everyone else is plotting with either a heavier lineweight or using object lineweight.
Do a search on your machine and a "good" machine in the root of C:\ for *.ctb and see if there are any others.
there is only C_S_A.ctb and Piping.ctb, that's it. On local disks, there is of course acad.ctb, monochrome.ctb, and <none>.ctb but no other duplicates anywhere on the server.
so the specific ctb is exactly the same. (same mod date, same size, same pen settings, everything about the ctb is the same on each machine)
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No one's saying you're a noob...
This issue has got all of us pretty puzzled, hence the 6 pages of replies.
lol. i was joking, wasn't throwing rocks man... i really appreciate everyone's suggestions and efforts...
i'm just as frustrated with it too. I think I'm more frustrated with the engineer here though.
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Did you say you had all tried printing to a PDF? with the same (undesired) results?
I don't mean all of you printing a PDF... I mean printing TO a PDF. Or to any other printer?
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i honestly don't think it matters. I really don't care if I get this resolved or not. I'm just tired of him naggin me to get it fixed. I spent the last 3 days trying different things. And he's getting mad. He's starting to offend me by all this. I don't know how many more times I have to tell him he's just gonna have to let it go.
Guess I'll let "IT" re-install acad just to waste some time... it might fix it, then again, might not.
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Did you say you had all tried printing to a PDF? with the same (undesired) results?
I don't mean all of you printing a PDF... I mean printing TO a PDF. Or to any other printer?
what exactly do you mean by printing TO a PDF? You mean Printer Done F****ed up?
yes, same results printing to a different printer...
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Make sure you save any customized files you have such as acad.pgp, .mns, etc. vefore they reinstall it.
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Did you say you had all tried printing to a PDF? with the same (undesired) results?
I don't mean all of you printing a PDF... I mean printing TO a PDF. Or to any other printer?
what exactly do you mean by printing TO a PDF? You mean Printer Done F****ed up?
yes, same results printing to a different printer...
Just mean 'creating' a pdf from acad, using Acrobat distiller, CutePDF, PrimoPDF, etc... If it's the same result as when you print to a printer, it might help us to see the result.
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Did you say you had all tried printing to a PDF? with the same (undesired) results?
I don't mean all of you printing a PDF... I mean printing TO a PDF. Or to any other printer?
what exactly do you mean by printing TO a PDF? You mean Printer Done F****ed up?
yes, same results printing to a different printer...
Just mean 'creating' a pdf from acad, using Acrobat distiller, CutePDF, PrimoPDF, etc... If it's the same result as when you print to a printer, it might help us to see the result.
i don't know how to plot to a pdf.
i've seen the option on machines #1 and #2. Is there something to install to gain that ability?
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Make sure you save any customized files you have such as acad.pgp, .mns, etc. vefore they reinstall it.
don't worry, i've got all my custom menu files on my flash drive.
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Yes. Maybe you want to steer clear of that option... Would you be able to scan the results of your print and one of the other prints and post them?
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Yes. Maybe you want to steer clear of that option... Would you be able to scan the results of your print and one of the other prints and post them?
maybe... just a minute.
scanner is at front office.
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notice how the text is darker on the "top" document.
if you can make it out, the band clamp around the pipe on my (the "bottom" document) is also too light.
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I would say everything on the top scan is too light, in comparison to the bottom one, that is...
You're saying there's a mix? Some parts are too dark and some other parts are too light?
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I would say everything on the top scan is too light, in comparison to the bottom one, that is...
You're saying there's a mix? Some parts are too dark and some other parts are too light?
no, in general, MY plots are coming out too light.
The others are coming out too dark.
I think it's MY machine that's the "good" one, the other three are coming out too dark, cuz then you can't make out flanges on the steel, until it gets plotted out on a big plot (34x22 for example).
My engineer though, continues to insist that it's MY machine that's screwed up.
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When I had trouble like this once I was printing to a black and white printer, but I was trying to print in color, so the printer was trying to print with color so all the lines were coming out lighter. I think it had something to do with gray scale, but I can't remember now as this problem happened almost 10 years ago. I will look to see if I can find what I'm thinking of in my current set up, but you might be able to find it before I do.
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but I have to still give them the satisfaction of at least "trying" reinstalling ACAD just to say that they did that.
crazy.
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i personally think it has something to do with the plotter driver... on MY machine. Cuz if I can plot a good plot going thru someone else's computer, then that's the tale-tell sign... or no?
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I hope for your sake that reinstalling doesn't fix the issue, but I fear it might.
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if I can plot a good plot going thru someone else's computer, then that's the tale-tell sign... or no?
What do you mean? "Thru"? Remote Desktop, etc.?
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if I can plot a good plot going thru someone else's computer, then that's the tale-tell sign... or no?
What do you mean? "Thru"? Remote Desktop, etc.?
control panel>printers and faxes>add printer>a network printer attached to another computer> in other words... a shared printer, and just so happens to be the printer I plot to. It works fine that way, meaning - it plots out the way the engineer wants it to.
but this is just a "work around" and only works when that computer is on and logged onto the network.
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So, is this a network printer or is it a local printer, connected to this person's computer? If it's the latter, that machine would have to be on for anyone to print.
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I have everyone using a mapped drive to the same files including the same networked Profile.arg
In my enterprise mnl I call a few items as well:
;==========================================================================================================================================
(command "XLOADCTL" 2) ; Creates XREF copies to lock instead of locking people out of the XREF files themselves.
(command "TEXTFILL" 1)
(command "MIRRTEXT" 0)
(command "PDMODE" 1)
(command "OLEQUALITY" 0) ; Sets OLE object (like Excel Files) to print monochrome
(command "rememberfolders" 1) ; Sets the previous folder to open with each dialog
(command "coords" 2)
(command "ACADLSPASDOC" 1)
(command "PUBLISHCOLLATE" 0)
(command "PUBLISHALLSHEETS" 0)
(command "pickstyle" 0)
(command "savetime" 15)
(command "sigwarn" 0)
(command "imageframe" 2)
(command "VISRETAIN" 1)
(command "ATTDIA" 1)
(command "SDI" 0)
(command "FILEDIA" 1)
(command "CMDDIA" 1)
(COMMAND "REGENAUTO" "ON")
(command "recoverymode" 0)
(command "drawingrecoveryhide")
(command "PROXYNOTICE" 0) ; disables proxy graphics warning notice
(command "STANDARDSVIOLATION" 0) ; disables standards warning notice
(command "PLQUIET" 1) ; disables PLOT/PUBLISH warning notices
(command "BACKGROUNDPLOT" 0) ; 2 for publish in background or 3 background PLOT/PUBLISH warning notices
(command "DXEVAL" 8) ; ALWAYS UPDATES LINKED REFERENCES
(command "BINDTYPE" 1)
(command "PROXYGRAPHICS" 1)
;==========================================================================================================================================
(prompt "\nDialog Control Variables set!!")
;==========================================================================================================================================Control Line Scaling
(command "PSLTSCALE" 0)
(command "MSLTSCALE" 0)
;==========================================================================================================================================
(prompt "\nMSpace & PSpace LTScale Varaibles set to 0!! Defaults to LTSCALE settings now!")
;==========================================================================================================================================Layer Control Handling
(setvar "LAYEREVAL" 0) ; turns off XREF layer warning controls
(setvar "LAYERNOTIFY" 0) ; turns off unreconciled layer warning controls
(setvar "LAYLOCKFADECTL" 0) ; adjusts layer locked fade controls
;==========================================================================================================================================
(prompt "\nLayer Handling variables set!!")
Check to make sure your using ctb and not stb plotting in your interface by default?
command: convertctb
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So, is this a network printer or is it a local printer, connected to this person's computer? If it's the latter, that machine would have to be on for anyone to print.
network printer = everyone can print to it. plus I can print directly(locally) to it too. It's actually right in my office cubicle :lmao:
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I can learn how to be the "official" CAD manager from this guy.
I have everyone using a mapped drive to the same files including the same networked Profile.arg
In my enterprise mnl I call a few items as well:
;==========================================================================================================================================
(command "XLOADCTL" 2) ; Creates XREF copies to lock instead of locking people out of the XREF files themselves.
(command "TEXTFILL" 1)
(command "MIRRTEXT" 0)
(command "PDMODE" 1)
(command "OLEQUALITY" 0) ; Sets OLE object (like Excel Files) to print monochrome
(command "rememberfolders" 1) ; Sets the previous folder to open with each dialog
(command "coords" 2)
(command "ACADLSPASDOC" 1)
(command "PUBLISHCOLLATE" 0)
(command "PUBLISHALLSHEETS" 0)
(command "pickstyle" 0)
(command "savetime" 15)
(command "sigwarn" 0)
(command "imageframe" 2)
(command "VISRETAIN" 1)
(command "ATTDIA" 1)
(command "SDI" 0)
(command "FILEDIA" 1)
(command "CMDDIA" 1)
(COMMAND "REGENAUTO" "ON")
(command "recoverymode" 0)
(command "drawingrecoveryhide")
(command "PROXYNOTICE" 0) ; disables proxy graphics warning notice
(command "STANDARDSVIOLATION" 0) ; disables standards warning notice
(command "PLQUIET" 1) ; disables PLOT/PUBLISH warning notices
(command "BACKGROUNDPLOT" 0) ; 2 for publish in background or 3 background PLOT/PUBLISH warning notices
(command "DXEVAL" 8) ; ALWAYS UPDATES LINKED REFERENCES
(command "BINDTYPE" 1)
(command "PROXYGRAPHICS" 1)
;==========================================================================================================================================
(prompt "\nDialog Control Variables set!!")
;==========================================================================================================================================Control Line Scaling
(command "PSLTSCALE" 0)
(command "MSLTSCALE" 0)
;==========================================================================================================================================
(prompt "\nMSpace & PSpace LTScale Varaibles set to 0!! Defaults to LTSCALE settings now!")
;==========================================================================================================================================Layer Control Handling
(setvar "LAYEREVAL" 0) ; turns off XREF layer warning controls
(setvar "LAYERNOTIFY" 0) ; turns off unreconciled layer warning controls
(setvar "LAYLOCKFADECTL" 0) ; adjusts layer locked fade controls
;==========================================================================================================================================
(prompt "\nLayer Handling variables set!!")
Check to make sure your using ctb and not stb plotting in your interface by default?
command: convertctb
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I'm a CAD Standards Nazi :pissed:
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yeah, the engineer here and I go 'round and 'round in the rocks sometimes about consistency.
now he makes a big deal about my plots looking "better" than his.
I'm still not sure though that I had not "done something" to my settings that I just can't recall.
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So, is this a network printer or is it a local printer, connected to this person's computer? If it's the latter, that machine would have to be on for anyone to print.
network printer = everyone can print to it. plus I can print directly(locally) to it too. It's actually right in my office cubicle :lmao:
Ok, so how does everyone connect to it? Network Printer?
What if each of you reinstalled the printer the exact same way? Maybe theirs are all wrong and yours is right... maybe theirs are right and yours is wrong. Who knows?
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So, is this a network printer or is it a local printer, connected to this person's computer? If it's the latter, that machine would have to be on for anyone to print.
network printer = everyone can print to it. plus I can print directly(locally) to it too. It's actually right in my office cubicle :lmao:
Ok, so how does everyone connect to it? Network Printer?
What if each of you reinstalled the printer the exact same way? Maybe theirs are all wrong and yours is right... maybe theirs are right and yours is wrong. Who knows?
they connect thru it over the network :wink:
we do have a server. but "IT" takes care of that. Mind you, "IT" is one lady. I think she took a couple semester in college for it. The rest she just googles...
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Possibly helpful --
(defun _GetWmiService ( / wmiLocater wmiService )
;;==================================================================
;;
;; 2007/12/xx Michael Puckett
;;
;; (with thanks to Daniel from theswamp.org for helpful nudges)
;;
;;------------------------------------------------------------------
;;
;; http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa389763(VS.85).aspx
;;
;; Set objLocator = CreateObject("WbemScripting.SWbemLocator")
;; Set objService = objLocator.ConnectServer(".", "root\cimv2")
;;
;;==================================================================
(setq
wmiLocater (vlax-create-object "WbemScripting.SWbemLocator")
wmiService (vlax-invoke wmiLocater 'ConnectServer "." "root\\cimv2")
)
(vlax-release-object wmiLocater)
;; caller's responsibility to release the
;; wmi service when it's no longer needed
wmiService
)
(defun _AddPrinter ( printerName / wmiService result )
;;==================================================================
;;
;; 2007/12/xx Michael Puckett
;;
;;------------------------------------------------------------------
;;
;; printerName must be a unc path to a valid device, e.g.
;;
;; (_AddPrinter "\\\\myserver\\myprinter")
;;
;;------------------------------------------------------------------
;;
;; See http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa394585(VS.85).aspx
;;
;;==================================================================
;; strComputer = "atl-ws-01"
;; Set objWMIService = GetObject( _
;; "winmgmts:{impersonationLevel=Impersonate}!\\" & _
;; strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
;; Set objPrinter = objWMIService.Get("Win32_Printer")
;; errReturn = objPrinter.AddPrinterConnection _
;; ("\\PrintServer1\ArtDepartmentPrinter")
(setq result
(null
(vl-catch-all-error-p
(vl-catch-all-apply
'(lambda ( )
(vlax-invoke
(setq printer
(vlax-invoke
(setq wmiService (_GetWmiService))
'Get
"Win32_Printer"
)
)
'AddPrinterConnection
printerName
)
)
)
)
)
)
(if printer (vlax-release-object printer))
(if wmiService (vlax-release-object wmiService))
result
)
Then:
(_AddPrinter "\\\\myserver\\myprinter")
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and this means what?
i know how to learn code/programming, but it has to be explain a little bit more than just posting the code. Cuz as it is, I don't know what the code is supposed to do, what I'm supposed to do with it.
help out a little more plz...?
i don't want just an inch, i want the whole mile :evil:
Possibly helpful --
(defun _GetWmiService ( / wmiLocater wmiService )
;;==================================================================
;;
;; 2007/12/xx Michael Puckett
;;
;; (with thanks to Daniel from theswamp.org for helpful nudges)
;;
;;------------------------------------------------------------------
;;
;; http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa389763(VS.85).aspx
;;
;; Set objLocator = CreateObject("WbemScripting.SWbemLocator")
;; Set objService = objLocator.ConnectServer(".", "root\cimv2")
;;
;;==================================================================
(setq
wmiLocater (vlax-create-object "WbemScripting.SWbemLocator")
wmiService (vlax-invoke wmiLocater 'ConnectServer "." "root\\cimv2")
)
(vlax-release-object wmiLocater)
;; caller's responsibility to release the
;; wmi service when it's no longer needed
wmiService
)
(defun _AddPrinter ( printerName / wmiService result )
;;==================================================================
;;
;; 2007/12/xx Michael Puckett
;;
;;------------------------------------------------------------------
;;
;; printerName must be a unc path to a valid device, e.g.
;;
;; (_AddPrinter "\\\\myserver\\myprinter")
;;
;;------------------------------------------------------------------
;;
;; See http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa394585(VS.85).aspx
;;
;;==================================================================
;; strComputer = "atl-ws-01"
;; Set objWMIService = GetObject( _
;; "winmgmts:{impersonationLevel=Impersonate}!\\" & _
;; strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
;; Set objPrinter = objWMIService.Get("Win32_Printer")
;; errReturn = objPrinter.AddPrinterConnection _
;; ("\\PrintServer1\ArtDepartmentPrinter")
(setq result
(null
(vl-catch-all-error-p
(vl-catch-all-apply
'(lambda ( )
(vlax-invoke
(setq printer
(vlax-invoke
(setq wmiService (_GetWmiService))
'Get
"Win32_Printer"
)
)
'AddPrinterConnection
printerName
)
)
)
)
)
)
(if printer (vlax-release-object printer))
(if wmiService (vlax-release-object wmiService))
result
)
Then:
(_AddPrinter "\\\\myserver\\myprinter")
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Aaaak! I'm 3 pages behind again!
What I meant is the advanced settings for the plotter as installed under windows itself. Not any settings under AutoCAD.
See if the settings under Windows/Printers differ between the machines.
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Aaaak! I'm 3 pages behind again!
What I meant is the advanced settings for the plotter as installed under windows itself. Not any settings under AutoCAD.
See if the settings under Windows/Printers differ between the machines.
http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=21381.msg259162#msg259162 (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=21381.msg259162#msg259162)
these settings?
these settings are the same on all 4 machines.
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or these settings?
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...these settings?
these settings are the same on all 4 machines.
Yeah, the upper image. All the settings on all the tabs (and sub-menus) should be the same for all machines.
OOPS! Cross post!
I mean the windows settings which appears to be what you're showing me in the latest image as well.
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yes, all these settings are the same :-)
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and this means what?
I had quickly glanced at the thread and got the impression that it would be convenient to have an easy way for you and your peers to connect to a common network printer in your efforts to have consistent printer setups yada, ergo the code. Just ignore it; apologies for the distraction.
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and this means what?
I had quickly glanced at the thread and got the impression that it would be convenient to have an easy way for you and your peers to connect to a common network printer in your efforts to have consistent printer setups yada, ergo the code. Just ignore it; apologies for the distraction.
apology speedily accepted ^-^
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Again, I didn't read all the posts, but it seems you are addressing this as a local printer and your associates are addressing it as a network printer.
Can you address it as a network printer yourself? That means adding a printer and it's port under windows with a network name instead of "local", and calling that printer from ACAD.
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Yeah, I'm thinking that they're not all printing to the exact same printer. It may all come out on the same printer, physically, but I think the printers are installed differently on the machines.
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"IT" doesn't have time for me now... bugger.
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we do have a server. but "IT" takes care of that. Mind you, "IT" is one lady. I think she took a couple semester in college for it. The rest she just googles...
Even with four years under the belt you'll still have to Google it, because it changes every 6 months :-o
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Well? Did the reinstall help?
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dang I completely missed this...
no, it didn't help.
It was the engineer who was more aggravated about it than me anyways, and he finally gave up!