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CAD Forums => CAD General => Topic started by: Dr. After on October 11, 2005, 11:31:24 AM
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I know this a matter of opinion, but this place seems to have lots of those, so what do you guys like in a mouse for drafting and why? I need a new one and up until now I have always had a basic corded mouse with a roller ball. Mostly Logitech and I have been happy with their products. But I do hate the hassle of dirty balls (shaving them helps, but back to mice...) however the cord never bothered me. Cords keep the mouse attached to my computer so they don't run off. I do like extra buttons and the wheel that is a third button so this is the one I am probably going to pick up today (http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=694808), but I still wanted to hear if and why folks use track balls, cordless, laser, etc...
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Someone here has one of those and is quite happy with it. I use a Logitech TrackMan Wheel trackball personally because of carpal tunnel problems a few years back. They take a few days to get used to but are much easier on the wrist than a traditional mouse.
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I have at work (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2150,CONTENTID=5002)
and in my laptop bag (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2150,CONTENTID=5003)
I also have a older logitech trackball on my home desktop but I can't find a link to it.
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I used a trackball for awhile. Mostly when I was surveying because it was easier to use in the truck. My thumb didn't like using it all day though. Now I pretty much just use whatever ends up on my desk.
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So at least some of you do use track balls, huh? Interesting... I don't mind learning new techniques and such, but I am leery of getting a track ball due to I don't think I will like it, but who knows.
Do you think track balls are more accurate or quicker?
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I think they are both more accurate and quicker - after educating your thumb on it for a week that is.
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I think they are both more accurate and quicker - after educating your thumb on it for a week that is.
Agreed!
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Do you think track balls are more accurate or quicker?
I use to have one at my old company, and they are pretty accurate, it's just hard to teach an old dog new tricks. :-)
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I liked it fairly well over all. The joint pain was the biggest detractor for me although it leaves you keeping the need to periodically scrub your ball and socket.
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I have a touch of arthritis in my hands....the thumb-style track ball just KILLED my hand! :x Had it for a week and put it in the drawer....it's still there. I use a standard 2 button Intella-mouse for the right and my trusty N52 with the left. For an old fart, I'm lightning fast! :roll:
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Whelp... I gots the mouse I listed above. I got the red one because we all know red cars go faster, so a red mouse will probably do the same, right?
I think I will try a track ball for my laptop soon, though.
Thanks for the input guys!
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Whelp... I gots the mouse I listed above. I got the red one because we all know red cars go faster, so a red mouse will probably do the same, right?
They go faster but they also pay a higher insurance premium...........he, he :-D
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Not trying to hijack this thread,but do most of you buy your own mice for work?Have you bought others peices of equipment for use at work?Sometimes its better to just outlay a small amount of your own cash to increase your output level and comfort level at work,rather than sitting there complaining for months that something doesnt work or is up to spec.
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hijack accepted...
I found a deal for a $40 highback leather chair being that mine was giving me awful pain in the back. I showed it to the owner and he said no.
.|.. :x ..|.
So I bought it myself and I will be taking it with me when I leave.
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I tried a trackball for awhile. I forget what brand. Maybe logitech. had a red ball.
Didn't go faster. My thumb didn't like the rolling the abll around thing. Though it's pretty cool when you get fed up and spin the ball fast.
I use a microsoft intellimouse now. infra red. No need to clean the ball. Still has a cord. Cheaper than wireless and what's a mouse without a tail. Has extra buttoms on the side and a rolling wheel. The red light is cool. But makes me think I'm riding the brakes.
Uh, I have those lighted usb cords too. So when I turn off the lights it looks like it's christmass. Oh, the lighted ones were on sale and cheaper than regular ones, so no brainer there for me.
At my last place, I told the bosses that if they didn't buy adjustable keyboard trays, good chairs etc, they'll end up with a bunch of people on disability. A newbie actually joined the firm worked all of 2 months (received full benefits) and promptly went on disability. So nice adjustable keyboards from task2 and decent chairs but not leather for everyone.
Oh, 21" monitors too. So they did the right thing. But that was a while ago.
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I prefer...sumasketch tablet graphic with 16 button mouse.
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The Logitech 3 button "Minnie Mouse" (no balls) is inexpensive and works nicely.The optical mice are very smooth. i just cannot get used to the track balls.
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I've been a Logitech fan for years.
Most recently ; The LX700 cordless keyboard/mouse combo. ... not a regret.
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I prefer...sumasketch tablet graphic with 16 button mouse.
Thats what I use at home and at the office its a CalComp Drawing Board III. I wouldnt trade it for the world. Call me old school, but it works for me.
Pete
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Andrea or grush, any insight on tablet menus in a cui world?
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Andrea or grush, any insight on tablet menus in a cui world?
I'm still using 04, so I have no idea about the CUI interface.
Sorry. If I upgrade to 06, I will let you know.
Pete
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I use a Contour MOuse
I think there is like three or four different sizes
Made to fit your hand
Works really nice
http://www.contourdesign.com/
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Just got it and so far it is by far the best mouse I have ever used! I never figure there would be that much difference but the responce time is instant and the accuracy is astounding. Now I need to hone my speed again to get the most out of this little red mouse. Now I have no balls, either. :lol:
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Hope its not too late for my 2 cents....
@ work I've been introduced to a 4 button + wheel, where you can program the 2 side buttons to any F funtion. I've set one to snap on/off and the other to otrho on/off. I have to get a new mouse for home, but I'll never go back to 2 buttons. I'm prob not as fast as T-Bear with a mouse in each hand, but better than F8 on F8 off, F8 on. I'd be willing to bet watching T Bear draw is more fun than watching a pen plotter do an E size sheet.
Now for the challenge... I need a lsp to work with my clapper so when I clap my hands twice it will plot, save then close :-D
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Even though I use the Intellimouse, the Nos N52, AND a USB numeric keypad, I still miss my old Sun Moon Star tablet. It was like 8x11 in size, had a mouse with 3 ricker switches on it. Forward on #1 was always pick button. With the old Panacea display list driver, I could make the other keys do tons of things. Each key could have a command assigned for a normal click, a long click, or a double click. OK, so that gives me 15 commands plus my pick key already right?? Well, the Panacea DLD could turn those clicks into different menus, totally customizable and easy to do. It would take a little while to get everything set up the way you wanted but man, when you did, hold onto your socks..
Ah yes, DLD's were the best thing since peanut butter and jelly sammiches..
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How's your new mouse behaving Dr. After?Im about to get a new one to and that mouse you suggested (MX510) looks so dam nice.
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I use the Logitech MX1000 Laser Cordless Mouse (http://www.logitech.com//index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=3,CONTENTID=9043) and I think it is the best I have ever used. I tried one of those trackballs but my thumb wasn't that smart.
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I use the Logitech MX1000 Laser Cordless Mouse (http://www.logitech.com//index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=3,CONTENTID=9043) and I think it is the best I have ever used. (...)
Fully agree, but you've to use the latest driver...
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Ive seen similar mice to that but it would annoy me having to charge batteries all the time for it and I also like to keep as many infra red, radio waves etc to minimum if I can around me.Theres enough going about and its not to say in the future thatll find out these waves and infra red are damaging to our health.Plus as already stated a mouse should have a tale.
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I tried one of those cordless mouses about 6 months ago. Can't remember which one it was exactly. But I didn't like it because there was an annoying time lag when clicking and pointing as compared to a corded mouse. And I didn't care for the size or feel of the mouse, since it must be larger to accommodate the batteries which add additional weight. Cost a lot of money too.
But to each their own. One of my co-workers loved it!
One of the problems with mice, is that you can't try before you buy. Unless of course, you have a friend that has one that you are considering.
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I use the Logitech MX1000 Laser Cordless Mouse (http://www.logitech.com//index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=3,CONTENTID=9043) and I think it is the best I have ever used. (...)
Fully agree, but you've to use the latest driver...
Why do you say that?
I bought mine over 6 months ago and haven't had the first problem with it.
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Why do you say that?
I bought mine over 6 months ago and haven't had the first problem with it.
I bought mine a year ago and had a lot of problems with it (SetPoint/Driver v2.11c):
- USB connection wasn't working correct (I had to change to PS2) :ugly:
- Wheel was moving the contents of all visible windows :pissed:
- Sometimes the pointer was jumping (without or with touching the mouse) to the top of the screen. :realmad:
- etc.
Is that enough?
Now I use SetPoint/Driver v2.22.124. Since then I hadn't any remarkable problems. :-)
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I'm thinking about upgrading my mouse at work.
I currently use a Micro$oft Intellimouse, the infrared one with 4 buttons (not counting the wheel button) and I have the thumb button programmed as ESC and the other one as F8. I have the wheel button set as F3 and couldn't imagine doing CAD with anything less.
I've looked at the nostromo thinger, they have an older model available at Big Lots out here for less than 10 bucks but I'm not convinced that I'll like it. Then again, I wasn't convinced I'd like the 4/5 button mouse either. It took me a while to get used to using a mouse after using a SummaSketch tablet for years (still have 4 or 5 of the tablets sitting here in my garage) so I dunno... it's only 10 bucks. If I don't like it I can always turn it into a borg hand thinger for next years halloween costume :-P
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(http://www.theswamp.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;id=107;type=avatar)
Man just look at your mouse it has a mind of its own,tame the beast!
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I currently use a Micro$oft Intellimouse, the infrared one with 4 buttons (not counting the wheel button) and I have the thumb button programmed as ESC and the other one as F8. I have the wheel button set as F3 and couldn't imagine doing CAD with anything less.
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I used to have my thumb button setup as ESC back in pre Windows Xp days. And really loved that setup. But unfortunately the newer mouse drivers have removed the ESC key from the list of keys which may be mapped to mouse buttons.
So heads up: if you upgrade your mouse, you may loose ESC button. :cry:
(last time I checked anyway)
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I have enjoyed my Intellimouse IR w/cord but when I upgraded the driver from 4.2 to 5.1 the
driver would not allow a quick transfer of wheel zoom to pan. Seems the wheel must completely
stop & a short annoying pause before you are allowed to press the wheel button. I am using
ACAD2k with windows 2K. So i went back to the old driver.
Oh, I use my thumb button for CTRL+R to switch drawings. Works for me. :)
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Man just look at your mouse it has a mind of its own,tame the beast!
That was my old mouse... instead of tame it, I've sink it into the swamp. :-D
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I use a Contour MOuse
I think there is like three or four different sizes
Made to fit your hand
Works really nice
http://www.contourdesign.com/
This looks awesome, but about 7 years ago I got carpel in my right wrist working in the worst possible ergonomic situation while working for Home Depot, so I just started using my left hand, but since we were on shared computers, I had to use a right handed mouse, So now I mouse w/ left hand on a standard IBM 2 button w/a center roller- carpel tunnel went away, but I now have matching ganglean cysts on both inner wrists--yipeeeee---- :roll: in short, the learning curve for an ergonomic mouse would be impossible :-(
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How's your new mouse behaving Dr. After?Im about to get a new one to and that mouse you suggested (MX510) looks so dam nice.
I love it. Best one I have used to date. Very accurate. The only complaint I have is some of the button locations. My fingers tend to get in odd possitions to reach some of the ones I don't normaly use. No real problem there, just an annoyance for the options I barely use on the thing.
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Whats it like with those new buttons on top, do you accidently hit them?Ive heard nothing but praise for this mouse and I think it looks dam smart to.
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Whats it like with those new buttons on top, do you accidently hit them?Ive heard nothing but praise for this mouse and I think it looks dam smart to.
Adjusting to this mouse from any other was not even noticeable. The only thing I had to get used to was the new location of the thumb buttons. I haven't hit any accidentally and it really seems to fit rather comfortably. Like I said, though, if there is a con, it's getting your fingers to all the extra middle buttons. It's just weird, not uncomfortable or hard.
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Hey Doc......
I also was looking @ Logitech mice (1 work/1 home). At the previous employer I had one with 1 button one each side. At the store I can only find the one similiar to yours so....
Are the side buttons seperated enough to be used easily?
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Are the side buttons seperated enough to be used easily?
My thumb falls right in the crack between the two, so they are both easily accessible, but being that the buttons are closer to the top of the mouse then the bottom, you seem to lose some control of motion when using the buttons. No real big hindrance, but it could be.
Ok... we are getting way too technical now about a mouse, but this is getting to be an interesting review of mice and such!
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At a new job and about to have them order me the same mouse again. I miss it the most out of anything else from my old job. :cry:
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Did you read the thread about the vertical mouse?
In Swamp Review
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I recently requested & got a Dynex Wireless Laser mouse.
The only complaint I have is that I cannot prg the wheel's horizontal tilt to make AutoCad 'pan'.
That was one of the major things I wanted it for.
Oh well, at least the extra buttons are programmable.
craigr