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Title: Preferred PDF platform for workflow integration
Post by: TheCADnoob on April 03, 2018, 08:42:40 AM
Looking at taking on some publishing responsibilities and could use some guidance or recommendations.

What's the best PDF platform out there these days. What i'm really looking for is one that is customizable and has the ability to integrate with other systems, or at least has the ability to allow useful scripting.

I've heard good things about blue beam but I've only really used Adobe so far. I've thrown some Java at acrobat with limited success.. I've downloaded the SDK, but before I leap that far into it I figured id ask around.

Title: Re: Preferred PDF platform for workflow integration
Post by: JohnK on April 03, 2018, 09:10:34 AM
Not sure I fully understand the scope of your criteria --i.e. "integrate with other systems" (what does that mean?), etc.--but Ghostscript would probably allow you the greatest script-ability, in that you can just roll C programs by including the headers. That would mean, no gui necessary and you wouldn't have to "open a pdf" to do what you want, thus save yourself the time required to load up separate PDFs each time you want to run a script (or preform an action).

If you don't know C, and would be happy with the limited features, you can try the Ghostscript .NET wrapper.
https://archive.codeplex.com/?p=ghostscriptnet
Title: Re: Preferred PDF platform for workflow integration
Post by: dgorsman on April 03, 2018, 10:01:34 AM
We've standardized on BlueBeam.  It's got pretty much everything you could want; downside is, users need to be trained on all the functions and you'll need a couple of in-office specialists to help out when problems crop up.
Title: Re: Preferred PDF platform for workflow integration
Post by: ronjonp on April 03, 2018, 10:32:59 AM
Bluebeam here too.
Title: Re: Preferred PDF platform for workflow integration
Post by: basher76 on April 03, 2018, 11:06:15 AM
BlueBeam user here as well.   

For estimating takeoffs, file manipulation, etc.. it's hard to beat for the price.   

The support is good, the MSI installer works well with group policy for deployment, and the interface is fairly easy to customize to fit how you use it.   It has some glitches, but what software doesn't?

Title: Re: Preferred PDF platform for workflow integration
Post by: TheCADnoob on April 03, 2018, 11:21:53 AM
Not sure I fully understand the scope of your criteria --i.e. "integrate with other systems" (what does that mean?), etc.--but Ghostscript would probably allow you the greatest script-ability, in that you can just roll C programs by including the headers. That would mean, no gui necessary and you wouldn't have to "open a pdf" to do what you want, thus save yourself the time required to load up separate PDFs each time you want to run a script (or preform an action).

If you don't know C, and would be happy with the limited features, you can try the Ghostscript .NET wrapper.
https://archive.codeplex.com/?p=ghostscriptnet

Awesome! I had not even considered ghostscript. ill be sure to look into it. I've done C years ago so it might not take me much to past the hello world stage.

As far as "integrate with other systems," im still just stabbing a little bit the dark. Basically I wanting to improve processes through automation I need something flexible enough for me to allow automate things and where possible and if there is a way interface with other programs.
Title: Re: Preferred PDF platform for workflow integration
Post by: TheCADnoob on April 03, 2018, 11:23:45 AM
I appreciate all the feedback
Title: Re: Preferred PDF platform for workflow integration
Post by: MSTG007 on April 03, 2018, 11:48:16 AM
Yup Bluebeam here... We publish our drawings with the DWG to PDF printer within AutoCAD then Bluebeam it out from there.
Title: Re: Preferred PDF platform for workflow integration
Post by: JohnK on April 03, 2018, 12:32:51 PM
Oh! Well bluebeam has an outlook, word, and excel plugin that makes your MS office experience that much more annoying (just like adobe).

Overall BB is nice and once you get the hang of the keyboard shortcuts you can really generate red-lines quickly. It has a very nice/clunky markup manager which can be useful. BB's interface itself is garbage but it's better then Adobe's -i.e. Bluebeam's interface is straight from the 90's and full of wasted screen space but Adobe's tools take far too many mouse clicks to get at. Overall, I like BB better then Adobe.

Foxit is also a nice PDF viewer. You can do most of the same things in Foxit as you can in Bluebeam for free and the interface is a lot like MS Word.

Sumatra PDF is my absolute favorite stand-alone viewer but it does not allow you to markup.

Also, if your looking to just view PDFs and not markup, Mozilla and Chrome now have built in PDF viewers so it makes things super simple.

Not sure I fully understand the scope of your criteria --i.e. "integrate with other systems" (what does that mean?), etc.--but Ghostscript would probably allow you the greatest script-ability, in that you can just roll C programs by including the headers. That would mean, no gui necessary and you wouldn't have to "open a pdf" to do what you want, thus save yourself the time required to load up separate PDFs each time you want to run a script (or preform an action).

If you don't know C, and would be happy with the limited features, you can try the Ghostscript .NET wrapper.
https://archive.codeplex.com/?p=ghostscriptnet

Awesome! I had not even considered ghostscript. ill be sure to look into it. I've done C years ago so it might not take me much to past the hello world stage.

As far as "integrate with other systems," im still just stabbing a little bit the dark. Basically I wanting to improve processes through automation I need something flexible enough for me to allow automate things and where possible and if there is a way interface with other programs.
Title: Re: Preferred PDF platform for workflow integration
Post by: ChrisCarlson on April 03, 2018, 04:30:53 PM
Bluebeam for anything AEC related, I have yet to find another software which can handle the large format drawings as effectively.
Title: Re: Preferred PDF platform for workflow integration
Post by: JohnK on April 03, 2018, 05:22:17 PM
Bluebeam for anything AEC related, I have yet to find another software which can handle the large format drawings as effectively.

I feel that design review (dwfx) does a great job (better than BB in some aspects), seeing as it was designed specifically for us (large format).
Title: Re: Preferred PDF platform for workflow integration
Post by: CAB on April 17, 2018, 09:27:48 AM
Foxit PhantomPDF Standard here.
Does all I need.