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CAD Forums => CAD General => The Third Dimension => Topic started by: Josh Nieman on March 19, 2007, 02:31:39 PM
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For those who like to play around on lunch breaks, in the evenings, have some down time... or maybe just aren't that well supervised ;)
I have a challenge for us all!
Model your office! Just your immediate surroundings, detail is up to you. This is no contest, just an exercise in illustration. Show us, without using photos, what your office looks like!
I'm in progress on mine.. waiting for the day that comes within the next week or so when we expand, allowing me to reclaim my office as my own, instead of sharing, and I'm planning the furniture arrangement.
I'm not looking for a fabulous render quality, or the most intricate thing... just do whatever level of detail you're comfortable with; this is supposed to be fun!
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If I wasn't so busy I'd join in. Mebbe I can squeak in some fun. :-)
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If I wasn't so busy I'd join in. Mebbe I can squeak in some fun. :-)
no time limit!
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Good work Josh .. what program are you using?
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Good work Josh .. what program are you using?
plain 'ol vanilla autocad. my free trial of 3dsmax expired lol
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I can model ok .. I just need some serious work on lighting ...
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I can model ok .. I just need some serious work on lighting ...
post a file. I'm no expert, but I'm sure there are a few others here than can put some lighting in your model and send 'er back. I learned by trial and error basically. i'm finding that flourescent lights are a real bear... I wish Autocad would let you pick an object as a light source, rather than limiting to a point from which light eminates such as a point or spotlight.
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agreed ... the spot lights are difficult to get right .. it seems there needs to be a softer lighting method available
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Here's a dry-run of a mechanical room that I'm currently working on.
Some of the pipes still need to be connected and the materials/lighting need a little TLC (as indicated by the little red pipe). :oops:
ABS 2007
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Here's a dry-run of a mechanical room that I'm currently working on.
Some of the pipes still need to be connected and the materials/lighting need a little TLC (as indicated by the little red pipe). :oops:
ABS 2007
That's pretty sweet... so where do you put your desk? ;)
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Dang it Josh. You beat me to it.
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Just like Milton (Office Space), I've been moved to the basement. :wink:
'I believe you have my stapler.'
I suppose I shoulda read the WHOLE post. :oops: I just kinda skimmed over it. But uh... since I don't have an office, all I can offer are pictures of turkeys (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=14312.msg173815#msg173815)!!
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yea.... mk Matt... we've been having a bit of a cockroach infestation down here... I'm going to go ahead and get you a can of bug spray; if you could just kind of help take care of this, that'd be greeaaaat.... mmmkayyyy.
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This is really fun!
Here's my latest entry after working on it today over a Wendy's Big Bacon burger. I think this is going to be an ongoing project... Next I'll have to scribble something on the dry erase board, put some books on the bookshelf, print rolls in the corner, plans on the drafting table, phone, computer tower, stapler (red Swingline, baby [actually mine's black, but hey, this is my rendering!]) and all that jazz. This could get to be pretty intensive.
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I've been working on mine as well...
I'm doing mine up in sketchup.
Hey Josh...is that a handicap access elevator in your office?
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I've been working on mine as well...
I'm doing mine up in sketchup.
Hey Josh...is that a handicap access elevator in your office?
shoot no... if an ADA inspector came in here they'd poop. I'll render a different perspective next time, the floor raises about 14 inches right there... there's 3 steps
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Hey Josh...is that a handicap access elevator in your office?
shoot no... if an ADA inspector came in here they'd poop. I'll render a different perspective next time, the floor raises about 14 inches right there... there's 3 steps
Ah sorry....just making an observation based on what I know about you...
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Hey Josh...is that a handicap access elevator in your office?
shoot no... if an ADA inspector came in here they'd poop. I'll render a different perspective next time, the floor raises about 14 inches right there... there's 3 steps
Ah sorry....just making an observation based on what I know about you...
what you know about me leads you to believe that I am wheelchair bound?
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Hey Josh...is that a handicap access elevator in your office?
shoot no... if an ADA inspector came in here they'd poop. I'll render a different perspective next time, the floor raises about 14 inches right there... there's 3 steps
Ah sorry....just making an observation based on what I know about you...
what you know about me leads you to believe that I am wheelchair bound?
I think he means that you like to ride elevators! Either that or you're crippled. I dunno. :?
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Hey Josh...is that a handicap access elevator in your office?
shoot no... if an ADA inspector came in here they'd poop. I'll render a different perspective next time, the floor raises about 14 inches right there... there's 3 steps
Ah sorry....just making an observation based on what I know about you...
what you know about me leads you to believe that I am wheelchair bound?
I think he means that you like to ride elevators! Either that or you're crippled. I dunno. :?
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what you know about me leads you to believe that I am wheelchair bound?
OH! Not wheelchair bound...just
oh what do they call it now...
oh yeah! Handicapible! :evil:
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what you know about me leads you to believe that I am wheelchair bound?
OH! Not wheelchair bound...just
oh what do they call it now...
oh yeah! Handicapible! :evil:
My mommy says I'm special :(
anyways... let's see some activity!! SOMEONE out there must be as dorky as I am, and spend lunch time practicing or playing around with various software programs.... anyone?... someone?... *crickets chirp*
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2004, that was my new year letter :
http://perso.orange.fr/ABCAD/PUBLI/Voeux2004suite.htm
(http://perso.orange.fr/ABCAD/PUBLI/Images_htms_V04_SUITE/Voeux4TER.jpg)
Acad + Photoshop.
In that image, you can find the (famous) Lisp tree, the bridge I was working at (left wall) and many GDL objects that I put pleased to the GDL adaptor for AutoCAD.
I also used the Penguin rendering engine to isolate easely areas in Photoshop.
Follow the first link, and then this one :
http://perso.orange.fr/ABCAD/PUBLI/historique.htm
You'll see how I worked it.
PS : the 2 monitors are available on cad3000.it
PPS : I use to live in that flat in Strasbourg city center and it was my office at the same time. The truth is that it was much more messy ! Andthat the mountains are a little more far away from the city center !
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Hey that's pretty cool!
Very impressive... you have a great style there.
I find one of the biggest challenges that I come upon is making everything in the scene "fit" with eachother. I seem to always have one object seeming realistic looking... another will look like a cartoon too much, and yet another will look good but just of a different style. I've been trying to work on keeping things of the same style, whether it's a watercolored look, a realistic scene, or if it's all sketchy looking... I find that the images are more impressive if everything looks like it belongs there, rather than if you try your best to make it photorealistic.
Anyways... what I'm getting at is that all the objects in your rendering have a great singular 'look' to them. Bright, vibrant, saturated, and a little whimsical touch as well... it's great!
How much time did it take you to complete that?
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You got me started on a big project over here. I'm going to model the entire office (both floors).
I started this in ABS 2007, but I might switch over to Revit so I can get my feet wet!!
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You got me started on a big project over here. I'm going to model the entire office (both floors).
I started this in ABS 2007, but I might switch over to Revit so I can get my feet wet!!
sweet! love to see the progress... at least you already have a floor plan to start with! I had to get the measuring tape out for my walls. Of course if you didn't already have a floor plan, I'm sure you wouldn't be taking the time to do the whole office ;)
btw, Revit is pretty easy... I started the trial of Revit Building, and man... go through the little "Getting Started" tutorial book.. it's easy as all get out... it's great. When this trial is up, I'm gonna switch to Revit Structure's trial.
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Josh your OFFICE4-SMALL.PNG is really nice. The plans on the table are a nice touch too.
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Here's a dry-run of a mechanical room that I'm currently working on.
Some of the pipes still need to be connected and the materials/lighting need a little TLC (as indicated by the little red pipe).
That's impressive Matt. You guys make me jealous! :-)
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Here's a dry-run of a mechanical room that I'm currently working on.
Some of the pipes still need to be connected and the materials/lighting need a little TLC (as indicated by the little red pipe).
That's impressive Matt. You guys make me jealous! :-)
Check out this one (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=15650.msg189926#msg189926). The image is a little bit large, but this way you can really see all of the detail.
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Matt, isn't the value of FACETRES of your scene too low ?
Josh, thanks. It took me a few hours I guess but not only inside Acad. As I explain in my (linked) webpage, I used Photoshop. The real secret is the use of Penguin for "non-realistic" rendering. It was a long time ago, the current version was 2004.
For the lights, I just put a few of them and made a fast rendering with no more objects on the scene than the chair, the table and the wall.
I'm not a specialist and I consider that work as a funny task.
If you want to see good renderings of my work under Acad 2000 (but rendered by a specialist under 3DSMax), check this out (http://www.autodesk.fr/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=458335&id=5545017) ! You are not dreaming, it is an Autodesk page ! You have to know that I'm a celebrity in France :mrgreen:
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Matt, isn't the value of FACETRES of your scene too low ?
Probably.... I think it's set to 1. I'm going to bump it up to 10 and do another rendering overnight.
Thanks for pointing that out.
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Facetres is also dependant of RESVUE, multiplied by it indead.
This was the first thing I saw :wink:
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RESVUE?? What version? ABS 2007 doesn't have it.
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Awesome stuff, Bert. http://www.autodesk.fr/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=458335&id=5545062 is my favorite... stylish! I've found that 3dsmax is an awesome tool... I wish our type of work would make it worth owning a copy lol... I'd love to do that kind of stuff more often.
Thanks for sharing.
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RESVUE?? What version? ABS 2007 doesn't have it.
Gotta remember he's not using USA version :) try "viewres" check it in the help file, it'll tell you exactly how it works with facetres as well
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Am I stupid ? "vue" is a french word, I could have thought about it. However, most of the time, variables don't change across the ocean.
Josh, Your favourit is also mine. The modeling took me less than an hour. It is true that those renderings are beautiful. The guy is an architect from Bulgaria, I met him in Sofia, we had a friendship and he offered me to render my works.
At the time, I thought I would sell 3D and images but I finally became an independant AutoCAD teacher and programmer. I almost never made good business with renderings. Too expensive and difficult to find a lot of clients.
But modeling our own office is a cool exercise.
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RESVUE?? What version? ABS 2007 doesn't have it.
Gotta remember he's not using USA version :) try "viewres" check it in the help file, it'll tell you exactly how it works with facetres as well
I know about VIEWRES. I thought RESVUE was some new option for 2007.
Now why in the holy hell would ADESK do THAT??!? It just makes things more difficult for everyone!!
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I agree, it is a bit strange.
I've always use Acad as a 3D modeler, since 2000, my first version.
You'll find me crazy but I prefer the 2006 rendering engine ! (maybe I'm old fashion)
Easier, settings bycolor, programmable, ....
By the way, did you know that the 2000-2006 engine is from 3DS R3 ?
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All I could do in a half hour window.
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All I could do in a half hour window.
That's pretty sweet, regardless of time constraint. I like Softplan's renderer... produces good images for this type of stuff. I was hoping you'd give it a whirl. Looks cool, nice detail touches like the photo on the wall and the window image.
Now, am I crazy or do you have marble or marble-colored-laminate countertops for your desk? If so... fancy schmancy.
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Marble colored laminate. They are quite a bit darker, I just have the light too bright.
Of course..... my office is never that clean. :-D
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Now, am I crazy or do you have marble or marble-colored-laminate countertops for your desk? If so... fancy schmancy.
That's what I was thinkin'! Custom made desk! "It's not who ya know, it's who ya..." 'er uh, good job Mav! :)
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Anyone got a .dxf of an HP450C and a printer? Scanner? uhm..... I just moved the mini fridge to another room. :-D
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Anyone got a .dxf of an HP450C and a printer? Scanner? uhm..... I just moved the mini fridge to another room. :-D
http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/274231
http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/274231
http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/321092
These were the only free ones I found on the site. http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/224808 was the only plotter I could find... an epson :(
Could try: http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/browse.aspx?category=57 or http://72.22.64.51/cgi-bin/csupload/CSUpload.cgi?page=37&lpage=30&command=viewupload&database=Furniture%2520%25203D%252edb
ooh... I found a HP 650.... maybe close enough? ;) http://www.3dcadbrowser.com/preview.aspx?ModelCode=6583
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So this isn't my office, but it is a project I've worked on this week...
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So this isn't my office, but it is a project I've worked on this week...
Dang... that's pretty dang neat. I like the canopy and lookout tower roof. How are you guys planning on making those curved pieces?
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Nice that you have parking for Josh figured in there. :-)
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Dang... that's pretty dang neat. I like the canopy and lookout tower roof. How are you guys planning on making those curved pieces?
I honestly don't know. It will change before we get done with it. We let the structural engineers figure out the hard parts. Tell us if we can do it or not.
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Here's mine
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Here's mine
Please tell me they let you work in the fire truck!
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Does anyone have an idiots guide to rendering using 2007?
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Does anyone have an idiots guide to rendering using 2007?
What would you like to know?
If I were to offer an idiots guide, I would simply say "Type 'render' " :-P
But if you want a thorough explanation, it might help to know where you're starting...
For instance... you have a 3d model, right? You simply wish to learn the ins and outs of lighting, materials, texture maps, bump maps, opacity manipulation, refraction, etc?
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Here's mine
btw, that is an awesome model... that looks like a lot of fun to make! I bet you loved the addition of the 'sweep' command to Autocad ;)
*edit* I'm sorry... I probably made an absurd assumption, that you're using Autocad... the rendering has details that seem specific to Autocad, but what ARE you using? I guess using something like Inventor or Solidworks would be better for what you're doing... */edit*
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For instance... you have a 3d model, right? You simply wish to learn the ins and outs of lighting, materials, texture maps, bump maps, opacity manipulation, refraction, etc?
Bang on the money.
I have a model, but for rendering i only use the preset values, I have never been taught rendering and would like to know more.
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For instance... you have a 3d model, right? You simply wish to learn the ins and outs of lighting, materials, texture maps, bump maps, opacity manipulation, refraction, etc?
Bang on the money.
I have a model, but for rendering i only use the preset values, I have never been taught rendering and would like to know more.
Have you ever tried placing lights at all? Upload a rendering of your model, and maybe I can give some specific advice, rather than the general "select an appropriate material... apply to the appropriate object... etc"
Mean time, I'll look through my printed tutorial type stuff, and see if I can find a couple websites I may have looked off of.
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Sorry... looks like all the printed stuff I kept are dynamic blocks and cad manual stuff... but I'd be willing to help you with what I can.
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It's not mine, I didn't know how to model my oversized floppy red shoes...
It's all done in AutoCAD by a client of mine, who will be migrating to Inventor once the application is finished.
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Draftek !
It looks like Kompan equipment (kompan.com) ! (by the way, the web site is full of very good 3D dwg, if still is).
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You simply wish to learn the ins and outs of lighting, materials, texture maps, bump maps, opacity manipulation, refraction, etc?
It's more the advanced rendering settings to get the best output from 2007 i'm after.
I can do materials from image files, lights cameras etc.
But anything other than the standard render settings are a mystery.
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You simply wish to learn the ins and outs of lighting, materials, texture maps, bump maps, opacity manipulation, refraction, etc?
It's more the advanced rendering settings to get the best output from 2007 i'm after.
I can do materials from image files, lights cameras etc.
But anything other than the standard render settings are a mystery.
Well I had begun defining each and every item on the Advanced Rendering Preferences panel, but I came upon "texture filtering" which I had no clue about, searched it, and found the following thorough explanation that had already been done:
http://www.dscohn.com/AU2006/GD33-2%20doc.pdf
Very interesting read of someone's handouts at AU2006 about rendering in Autocad 2007... including migrating scenes made in older releases.
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Would anyone get any benefit if I uploaded the scene now, or when I'm done? I don't have a problem sharing the models, setup, or anything else... there's nothing here I feel anyone else couldn't do if they felt like spending the time. There's a couple dozen materials, half a dozen images attached to materials (other than standard Autocad textures) and a dozen or so lights set up... but if anyone wanted to leech the desks, chair, monitor, computer w/e, I don't mind.
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Josh anything would benefit me, since I know jack about that kinda stuff.
Never been a money-maker for us.
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Not my office, but something I've been working on. Yes, Autocad material editor sucks. Take note of the cylindrical tower in the back. That's supposed to be Austin stone, but it stretched it. Yes, I could have done it in Viz render, but it's still not as good as the real thing. Yes, the facetres could be higher. All-in-all though, I like how easy it is to work in ADT. As for a good modeling and render engine, for those of you looking at 3ds or Maya, etc. If you want something like 3ds, give blender (http://www.blender.org) a try. You will have to read the tutorials, though. It's nothing like you've ever seen before. At least, I've never seen its type of layout before.
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Yes, Autocad material editor sucks. Take note of the cylindrical tower in the back. That's supposed to be Austin stone, but it stretched it.
It did that even with cylindrical mapping selected instead of box?
Pretty spiffy render, none the less... I find outdoors renders the hardest to do well in Autocad :(
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That is cylindrical mapping. I tried every type of mapping. I even tried rotating the dummy object or whatever that thing's called. On one of the renderings, I just copied and pasted the first tower into a selection in the GIMP, then airbrushed in a shadow. Looked a little dirty, but still better than what's there.
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So Matt... any progress to speak of on your office building?
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Nope. But they HAVE started demo'ing the cube-farm 3 doors down from me. As if being sick isn't bad enough.... Now I have to deal with the sound of saws AND sawdust. Woo-fricking-hoo. :x
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*Packing up cheese to accompany his favorite beverage for Matt*
:-D
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I'm not whining.... Just.... venting my frustrations about being sick... again. I've been relatively healthy for about 10 days and then.. *WHAM!* I get hit with another cold. :realmad:
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I'm not whining.... Just.... venting my frustrations about being sick... again. I've been relatively healthy for about 10 days and then.. *WHAM!* I get hit with another cold. :realmad:
Well if you would not sleep too close to the ....
Stop Ted Just Stop
Ahh never mind I am going to behave.
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I'm not whining.... Just.... venting my frustrations about being sick... again. I've been relatively healthy for about 10 days and then.. *WHAM!* I get hit with another cold. :realmad:
Well if you would not sleep too close to the ....
Stop Ted Just Stop
Ahh never mind I am going to behave.
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