Topic: R13 vs 2004+

[M-dub]

I won't get into why I'm asking, but does anyone know if a drawing created in R13 would be smaller or larger in file size to a seemingly identical drawing created and saved in 2004 or later?
Assuming that the drawing created in 2004 doesn't use Mtext or other stuff that wasn't available in the R13 days...

[Greg B]

Assuming that the drawing created in 2004 doesn't use Mtext or other stuff that wasn't available in the R13 days...

Whaaaa?

What do you think R13 was?  A board and pencil?

[Dinosaur]

R13 drawing 450k saved as 2005 is 215k

[M-dub]

R13 drawing 450k saved as 2005 is 215k

Very interesting, although it is as I predicted.

(YES!  I get to do my Homer impression again "In your face!  In your face!" to a guy here, at work.)

Thanks Dino!

[M-dub]

Assuming that the drawing created in 2004 doesn't use Mtext or other stuff that wasn't available in the R13 days...

Whaaaa?

What do you think R13 was?  A board and pencil?

I would rather it have been!

[daron]

However, R2004 came in with a new compression algorithm. Try dxf'ing from both releases and see if there is a difference.

[M-dub]

However, R2004 came in with a new compression algorithm.

That's why I got so cocky about this... The other guy didn't know about that.

[Jeff_M]

I have a 1,457kb R13 drawing that I just opened and saved in R2007. New file size is 795 kb

[M-dub]

Cool!
Thanks Jeff!

[Draftek]

So, did you win the bet?

[M-dub]

He didn't actually agree to it.  I told him, and I quote, "I'd be willing to bet money on the file size being smaller in 2004 (Saved as 2004) than an R13 (Saved as an R13)."

I received no reply.  He was talking about the "2000 crap" that was left in the drawings from a save down from 2k+.  This all goes back to a client who is stuck on R13 for some God Forsaken reason.  They actually own 2004 or 2005 or something, but the guy refuses to install it because his company won't send him on a week long paid training course.












I don't get it either...

[M-dub]

Oh Yeah!
Lookie what I found...

I forgot about this problem!  I haven't seen it since.... R13, maybe R14.


Looks like some kind of "Command: Shotgun" 

[M-dub]

Argh!
...And the Rev Clouds that were made up of individual arcs!  This, I know, didn't really have anything to do with R13... it just reminded me of that era.

:realmad:

[deegeecees]

I have spent the last hour pouring through searches to figure out a similar problem here.

Scenario:

Have a drawing with minimal entities in it, it's ballooned to 3.2m.
Erased all entites/purged (nested too)/saved, dwg is still 3.0m

After some searching came across MP's Counts.lsp, ran it and got this:

Command: (load"counts")
C:COUNTS

Command: counts
Blocks.Count = 3
    *Model_Space.Count = 0
    *Paper_Space.Count = 0
    *Paper_Space0.Count = 0
Dictionaries.Count = 8
    Groups.Count = 0
    Layouts.Count = 3
    ACAD_MLINESTYLE.Count = 1
    PlotConfigurations.Count = 0
    ACAD_PLOTSTYLENAME.Count = 1
    AcDbVariableDictionary.Count = 2
    ASE_INDEX_DICTIONARY.Count = 1
    DWGPROPS has no <Count> property.
DimStyles.Count = 2
Groups.Count = 0
Layers.Count = 3
Layouts.Count = 3
Linetypes.Count = 3
RegisteredApplications.Count = 2
Modelspace.Count = 0
Paperspace.Count = 0

I know there are still layer filters to delete and all, but I'm not convinced that that is taking up 3meg. The "Dictionaries = 8" in MP's tool is what I'm looking at for now. Does anyone know if I'm on the right track for getting this file down to nothing?

[M-dub]

Uhh.... right now, all I can think of is Deldup.lsp

Whether it helps you or not, I don't know...
http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=10449.msg132827#msg132827

What if you wblock it out to something else?