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Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: andyanderson on August 09, 2004, 09:22:41 PM
Hello all

When trying to align entities to each other and they're REAL close to being at the same angle, or moving items that are REAL close together I recall a jewel that someone told me a long time ago:

It's WWII over somewhere in a B-24...

Bombardier to Pilot: "Sir, could you make a 1 degree turn to the left?"

Pilot to Baombardier: "What! I can't make a 1 degree turn in this plane." (keep in mind that they only had magnetic compasses at the time)

Bombardier to Pilot: "OK, sir, make a 5 degree turn to the right and then a 6 degree turn to the left."  :)

Consequently, I rotate the hell out of the part the wrong way and then allign it or move the thing WAY out of the way and then move where I want it.

Any other ones out there?
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: daron on August 10, 2004, 07:54:30 AM
Reference the point to 0??
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Andrew H on August 10, 2004, 10:38:39 AM
I am completely lost and have no idea to what you are asking.

From what I can tell you're wanting to align two objects which are angled? If this is the case then I would copy the desired objects to an empty location on the drawing. Move the object you want to align, using a common point (i.e. an endpoint of both objects) directly over the object with the correct rotation. Start a rotate command on the object with the incorrect rotation angle and pick the common endpoint as the "base point" for the rotate command. Type "R" in the command line to indicate reference. Pick the common endpoint again, then pick a second point on the object with the wrong rotate that will align with the correctly rotated object, then select that corresponding point on the object with the correct rotation.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: M-dub on August 10, 2004, 10:41:21 AM
I'm not sure if he's actually looking for any help with anything at all...I think he's basically saying Think outside the box, There's more than one way to skin a cat...

I dunno...That's what I get from Andy's original post...
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Andrew H on August 10, 2004, 10:46:24 AM
oic, very confusing. I didn't even want to skin a cat and I didn't know I was in a box.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: ELOQUINTET on August 10, 2004, 11:04:18 AM
what's thinking?
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Andrew H on August 10, 2004, 11:06:49 AM
Something that should be avoided at all costs.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: ELOQUINTET on August 10, 2004, 11:23:34 AM
which way did he go which way did he go  :lol:
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: CADaver on August 10, 2004, 12:14:02 PM
dataway
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: pringals on August 10, 2004, 01:35:27 PM
...A box? ... where can I get one?

Sounds like he is trying to make two lines parallel to one another. Like one is 0 degrees, and the other is 0.000005668. To fix this, type UNITS and max out the precision for your angles to 0.0000000000. Now type LIST and pick line #1. Note the angle. Now list line #2. Are the angles slightly different? If #2 is different than #1, rotate line 2 to the difference of line #2-360 degrees using + or - depending on if you need to rotate it clockwise or counter clock wise.

... confused? ... raise your hand.  :?  :wink:


B
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: sinc on August 10, 2004, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: Andrew H
oic, very confusing. I didn't even want to skin a cat and I didn't know I was in a box.

No, it's the cat that's in the box, except it isn't really either "there" or "not there" until after you look for it...  :D

Most objects have a "Rotation" property.  You can look at the properties of the object at the "correct" rotation, and copy the rotation property (using ctrl-C and ctrl-V) to the properties window of your other object...  (This works well for text objects in particular.)

You can also set SNAPANG by selecting two points, such as the endpoints of a line.  That aligns ORTHO with the line, which is useful in some situations (but more for drawing or moving objects along a specific rotation, rather than rotating an existing object to match).
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Andrew H on August 10, 2004, 03:19:29 PM
If a cat meows in a box and there isn't anyone around, does it still make a sound?
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: PDJ on August 10, 2004, 05:16:43 PM
I thought this was gonna be little witicisms like "Don't squat when you've got your spurs on", that type of thing..
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: andyanderson on August 10, 2004, 09:33:02 PM
Whoa, y'all (a western/southern saying):

I am just trying to inject a little sanity into an otherwise insane pursuit of insanity convoluted in a whole bunch of bedlam and mayhem.  Or something like that.

And I see that someone knows about Schrodinger's 'cat in the box' mind boggler.  It's a quantum physics thing, way over my head but interesting nonetheless - that is if you're in to not into sleeping for a couple of months  :)

Really, I am just trying to get a feel from y'all, colletively, about how you go about finding a little bit of a smiley face when the boss says "it" has to be done in the morning and you know you'll be pulling an all nighter at home and not getting paid for it.

Humor is good.

Andy
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Dent Cermak on August 11, 2004, 08:16:30 AM
He'll soon learn that when anyone asks an inponderable question here that has stumped the sages for eons, 3 people will send in a lisp routine to solve it.  :shock:
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: t-bear on August 11, 2004, 08:20:05 AM
And two of them will even work!     JK!!

The lisps I've found here solve much worse problems than "....inponderable questions...."
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: PDJ on August 11, 2004, 12:27:29 PM
I just want to know where all the white goes when the snow melts..

Ohh, and I'm stuck on a poem, I need something that rhymes with orange..

OHH.. and why is the tune for the ABC song, the same as Twinkle Twinkle Little Star??
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Dent Cermak on August 11, 2004, 12:32:46 PM
(1) To the suburbs
(2) Dorange
(3) The same guy wrote both songs.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: t-bear on August 11, 2004, 01:20:21 PM
1)  Alaska
2)  Blue
3)  Plagerism....he gets out in another ten years...
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: McRojo the Irishman on August 11, 2004, 03:26:52 PM
You can't polish a turd.

Don't pee down my back and call it rain.

If a tree falls on a cat in a box, will the tree land on the cat's feet?

It all boils down to three things: money, politics, and bull-$h!+... mostly bull-$h!+.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: drizzt on August 11, 2004, 05:07:06 PM
are you telling me that politics and b%@# are two different things?
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: AVCAD on August 11, 2004, 05:17:13 PM
Quote from: andyanderson
when the boss says "it" has to be done in the morning and you know you'll be pulling an all nighter at home and not getting paid for it.


^ You tell him to get a clue and you dont work at home unless you are getting paid for it.

Well, thats my opinion...

I never work at home, its not my fault the engineers and designers or who ever take 10 hours to mark up a drawing. If its late It is on them not me....Set a schedule for you guys tell them if you dont have it by a certain time it is not going to get done...thats what I do..works great cause it takes the pressure of getting drawings at 430 when they are due at 5.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: PDJ on August 11, 2004, 05:41:49 PM
Holy COW!! Does that really work on your planet?? I've NEVER seen it here on earth like that..
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: McRojo the Irishman on August 11, 2004, 05:59:05 PM
No, BS has many different categories.  Politics being BS is simply understood.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: CADaver on August 11, 2004, 07:10:26 PM
Quote from: PDJ
Holy COW!! Does that really work on your planet?? I've NEVER seen it here on earth like that..
If it's worth me doing, it's worth paying me to do it.  
If it's not worth paying me to do it, it ain't worth doing.
Works fer me.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Dent Cermak on August 11, 2004, 07:12:31 PM
we're supposed to be getting paid ? DOH!!
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: CADaver on August 11, 2004, 07:13:44 PM
Quote from: Dent Cermak
we're supposed to be getting paid ? DOH!!
Only if you call what I make "getting paid".
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: t-bear on August 11, 2004, 08:11:58 PM
When I first started here, our engineer let a set of submittals sitting for six days and then started reviewing at one o'clock on a friday afternoon., They needed to be out that evening and, like a good scout, I stayed 'til after seven that night.  After he pulled this a couple of times, I shut down my 'puter and headed for the door. He asked where I was going and I told him, "home"...talk about pissed!  He didn'd talk to me for days....BUT.... it took him two and a half years b'fore he tried me again....and I walked out again.  He hasn't tried me since.....
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: McRojo the Irishman on August 11, 2004, 09:02:07 PM
I won't work for free if you don't pay me not to work.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: M-dub on August 12, 2004, 08:22:02 AM
I wouldn't work for free either!  I don't think I'd ever be expected to though.

"I work to live...I don't live to work!"
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: PDJ on August 12, 2004, 12:53:21 PM
Quote from: McRojo the Irishman
I won't work for free if you don't pay me not to work.


Ummm..   That one hurts my brain..
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Andrew H on August 12, 2004, 04:12:26 PM
Well, take a donut and have a seat.

I want to know:

if in a building with 4 wall, and each wall has a window and all the windows face south what color is the bear out side.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Dent Cermak on August 12, 2004, 04:45:55 PM
WHITE and he's headed for the suburbs.  :shock:
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Andrew H on August 12, 2004, 04:49:00 PM
but if a tree falls on him with a cat in a box, does that bear still have bear feet?
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: andyanderson on August 12, 2004, 09:25:45 PM
WHERE, in you-know-who's name, is this thread going?

Here I am, sitting in Deland, Florida waiting for hurricane Charley to strike us all dead.  Am I worried?  Naw...I've got confidence that someone in this forum will find out a way to steer it away from me.  I don't particularly care about anyone else - except for Elana, my drop-dead gorgeous neighbor - take care of her too.

I'm sure that some of you can figure out something as simple as moving a class 2, soon to be class 3, hurricane  :D
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Dent Cermak on August 12, 2004, 10:02:40 PM
Well, if I were to eat a BIG can of pork and beans, I could probably shift it east a bit. But you would still have a wind problem. Guess that won't do. I need to think on it a little more. Meanwhile Craig or Keith will come up with a lisp routine to shift vectors.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: andyanderson on August 13, 2004, 04:45:31 AM
Dent:

EAST a bit?  Better look at a map.  I'm within about 75 miles of the predicted eye of the storm - to the east of it.

I sent some emails out yesterday and, in part, I said:

"Hurricane Charley (should have been named Clyde - after TS Bonnie came through) is due up here in about a day or so.  Lots of rain and, probably, about 50 mph winds hereabouts.  I know my car can do 90 so, worst case, I can do 40 if I have to.  Or 140 if I'm going downwind :)"

Please, please, eat several tons or so of pork and beans, lots of cabbage and face (?) west.  You catch my drift.

Now, as to the lisp routines, I don't have a clue.  I rely on smarter people to do such things.  I learned PUFF (Purdue University Fast Fortan) - are you old enough to remember Puff the Magic Dragon? - but I think that's kinda outdated. :)
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: diarmuid on August 13, 2004, 07:40:19 AM
never judge a man until you walk a mile in his shoes...and after that mile you still don't like him, f*ck him, your a mile away from him AND YOU HAVE HIS SHOES.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: CADaver on August 13, 2004, 08:08:31 AM
Quote from: Dent Cermak
Well, if I were to eat a BIG can of pork and beans, I could probably shift it east a bit. But you would still have a wind problem. Guess that won't do. I need to think on it a little more. Meanwhile Craig or Keith will come up with a lisp routine to shift vectors.
But that would cost us much of Georgia... but then again, it's only Georgia.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Dent Cermak on August 13, 2004, 08:17:38 AM
I'm glad we don't have to worry about hurricanes here. But then, everything tends to avoid Mississippi.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Ron Heigh on August 13, 2004, 08:57:06 AM
Quote from: Andrew H
Well, take a donut and have a seat.

I want to know:

if in a building with 4 wall, and each wall has a window and all the windows face south what color is the bear out side.


White.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Andrew H on August 13, 2004, 09:48:19 AM
Andy,

well look on the bright side, at least it's not another Andrew!!!
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: t-bear on August 13, 2004, 10:36:46 AM
Andy.....you still there?  When that sucker picks you up and whooooshes you out to sea, you're gonna wish you was in Missouri.....we'll pro'lly git a sprinkle or two out-a this......
Now....git out-a Dodge....or Deland!!!!!
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: hudster on August 13, 2004, 10:45:42 AM
Quote

Well, take a donut and have a seat.

I want to know:

if in a building with 4 wall, and each wall has a window and all the windows face south what color is the bear out side.


White.


Not true actually, it's the snow that's white, a polar bears fur is transparent, as it's skin is black this allows maximum heat to reach the skin to help it warm up faster in any available daylight.

The fur is white because it shows the colour of the light reflected from the fur.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Andrew H on August 13, 2004, 10:49:48 AM
the bear I'm talking about it fluffy, my pet bear. He has 1 eye, 1 horn and can fly. He is purple with yellow pock-a-dots. And at the time of the original question, he was wearing a green and orange striped shirt.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: M-dub on August 13, 2004, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: Hudster
Quote

Well, take a donut and have a seat.

I want to know:

if in a building with 4 wall, and each wall has a window and all the windows face south what color is the bear out side.


White.


Not true actually, it's the snow that's white, a polar bears fur is transparent, as it's skin is black this allows maximum heat to reach the skin to help it warm up faster in any available daylight.

The fur is white because it shows the colour of the light reflected from the fur.


Not only transparent, but hollow as well...To hold heat.  Which is how us Canadians stay so warm without wearing a hat.  Hollow.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: CADaver on August 13, 2004, 01:37:05 PM
Quote from: Andrew H
the bear I'm talking about it fluffy, my pet bear. He has 1 eye, 1 horn and can fly. He is purple with yellow pock-a-dots. And at the time of the original question, he was wearing a green and orange striped shirt.
Ya' know there's a 12 step program for that.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: M-dub on August 13, 2004, 01:39:55 PM
LOL
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Post by: Andrew H on August 13, 2004, 01:41:43 PM
I got kicked out of the 12 step program becuase the bear wouldn't stop talking.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: PDJ on August 13, 2004, 01:56:43 PM
Hey Andy, sorry about this but, I wrote a lisp routine to redirect the path of the hurricane a bit away from Tampa and I got an slight mathematical error about 2/3s thru.

Umm, you might wanna RUN!!  Do you own ocean front property there in Deland?? If not, you soon will..

True story time:
My Dad lives over in Titusville and a few years back they had a blow go thru there that spun off a few small tornadoes.. So he drives his truck downtown where one of them went thru, he's got ham radio antennas all over it and the cops just wave him thru.  He pulls up to a distraught resident standin in the yard where his greenhouse used to be and asks him what happened.

"Well, the tornado came right through here and tore my greenhouse right off the lawn."

"Did you hear the tornado coming??"

"Yeah, it sounded just like a train!!"

"You mean it sounded like chugga chugga wooowooooooo?"

He left the guy there with a very puzzled look on his face..
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Post by: M-dub on August 13, 2004, 02:02:27 PM
Hmmm....Greenhouse....Tornado...

Sounds like a safe place to head for cover...:roll:

Kinda like a grass house in a fire.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Andrew H on August 13, 2004, 02:04:48 PM
I like getting in my green house on those hot, humid summer days in north texas
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: andyanderson on August 13, 2004, 08:10:14 PM
Well, it's 7:55 pm and the rain feeder bands have gone by.  The eye is headed right for us in Deland.  Rain?  I don't own a boat but I may need one to get out of here.  Hells bells, my local tavern closed down and a lot of us are really ticked off :)

The wind is getting ready to get really bad but what the heck, I've got life insurance.  Does that mean I can't die?

While peeking outside a neighbor said I should take my car and turn it around - facing OUT - and put on the emergency brake.  I thought he was crazy until I looked around and saw that everybody else had turned around.  Damn! And I just woke up from my nap.

I've been watching local TV and the 'storm' is gonna hit here in about 2 hours.

I've got plenty of everything (except women) but I'm not hungry.  I even took pictures.  No, no, not that kind.  Just for insurance purposes.

And NOBODY is on the roads.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: PDJ on August 16, 2004, 12:26:17 PM
OK,

I used to live in Florida back in my younger days and I don't ever recall anything about parking your car facing out.. Please 'splain..  My folks live down in Titusville on the East Coast and they lost power for a while, big ole oak tree across the street blew down, that's about all..
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: andyanderson on August 21, 2004, 09:27:22 PM
PDJ:

The reason for turning the car around was so that the storm wouldn't move it around, assuming the winds got high enough.  There was some TV footage showing a big work truck being blown around in a parking lot down in Orlando.  And at Orlando Executive Airport half of the planes down there went flying - winding up upside down.  But then again, planes are designed to fly  :lol:

I flew helicopters in the Army but they aren't supposed to fly.  Kinda like the bumble bee syndrome. It's just that nobody bothered to tell them (the helicopters) they couldn't.

Charlie missed us here in Deadland.  Some wind, some rain and lots of power outages.  Lotsa really big trees came down.  Ah, its't just nature's way of cleaning house, so to speak  :D

Please pray for all those fine folks on the west coast of Florida.  They got nailed.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: PDJ on August 23, 2004, 12:25:01 PM
OK, all my engineering knowledge is failing me on this one.. How does the direction your car is facing in the driveway make a difference as to whether it gets blown around or not?? Which way do you point it in a circular driveway?? What if you park on the street?? Which way does your neighbor across the street point his??

Back in the old days, we just parked our cars wherever.. I guess that's cause they were made outta real metal back then or somethin..
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Andrew H on August 23, 2004, 12:28:56 PM
My guess was the aerodynamics of the car into the wind will help keep it on the ground is the reasoning, but doesn't a hurricane rotate in 360 degrees?
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: VerticalMojo on August 23, 2004, 12:35:19 PM
WTF, just get the hell outta dodge....

I cant see how parking your car matters too. Maybe turning the wheel as if you where parked on a hill or something, but now that I think about it.... if it is going move your car then I’m pretty sure it will move it wherever it wants it.

I say If your that worried, get a garage.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Dent Cermak on August 23, 2004, 01:07:36 PM
Turning your car around is one of those things that you do instead of screaming like a girl or running down the street nekkid yelling, 'We're all going to die!!" In the face of a hurricane, options abound.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Andrew H on August 23, 2004, 01:14:26 PM
That's a good point. I think I would just move to tornado country and not worry about those darn hurricanes.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: andyanderson on August 30, 2004, 03:03:58 AM
OK, the reason I turned the car around, i.e. back side facing west is because the WIND was out of the west. Cars are not very aerodynamic going backwards or rather sitting still and the wind going - uh- the other way.  And, since I have a front wheel drive car, putting the emergency brake on locks all the wheels - well only the back ones but the tranny takes care of the front ones.  I had to explain that one to my Dad.

Now, a few days from today we're possibly looking at Frances for the holiday weekend.  Damn.  Do you have any idea how much rain we've had in the last month?  Of course not.  As of yesterday we were 28" over the average for this date.  And more on the way.  Damn.

And I moved to Florida for a reason.  Slips my mind right now.  Damn.  Ah, those senior moments...

And what ever happened to the thread that I STARTED???

It's has, amazingly, developed into a full-fledged sing along.  Kind a like a hootenanny (sp?) for those of you who are old enough to remember - like T-bear  8)

OK, to get back on track, another little pearl of wisdom:  never ask a fat woman if she's pregnant   :)

And if you don't know how to use PS, don't tell someone you do.  It's doesn't work.  Experience talking here.

Would someone please tell me how to spell the above word (Hootenanny), please.  I know I screwed it up.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Dent Cermak on August 30, 2004, 08:31:47 AM
No, you spelled it correctly.
Haven't you seen the commercial on TV lately where the lady gets out of asking the fat woman when she's due, just by saying "Thank You" out of the clear blue. Instantly goes from anger to hug time.
AND I avoid PS as much as possible. those new STD's scare me.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: ELOQUINTET on August 30, 2004, 10:26:24 AM
dent you have an STD :shock:
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Dent Cermak on August 30, 2004, 01:17:45 PM
NOT YET 'CAUSE I DON'T USE PS!!!
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: CarlB on August 31, 2004, 03:06:25 PM
Quote
Not true actually, it's the snow that's white, a polar bears fur is transparent, as it's skin is black this allows maximum heat to reach the skin to help it warm up faster in any available daylight.

The fur is white because it shows the colour of the light reflected from the fur.


The color that any object appears is the color of visible light that is reflected. Nothing special there regarding polar bear fur.  A more accurate description of a polar bear's hair is:


Quote
This is a recurring but misguided notion -- that polar bear hair or fur is not white, but clear or transparent. The material that makes up the shaft of the hair is transparent in the visible (although not perfectly so), but the inner core is highly reflecting, so the hair is as white as snow (each flake of which is made up of 'transparent' ice).


Quote found at the website http://it.stlawu.edu/~koon/mar_ref.html
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Keith™ on August 31, 2004, 03:23:32 PM
The only thing you can see is light, and light is the only thing you can see.
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: PDJ on August 31, 2004, 07:33:47 PM
Hey!! It's CARL B!!!
Title: Little pearls of Wisdom
Post by: Dent Cermak on September 01, 2004, 12:00:45 AM
I'm Sofa King lost!!