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Title: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on February 26, 2015, 09:31:12 AM
These are pics from Windows Explorer, the last one is from the AutoCAD open window.

Why does one save white and the other black?

Why would one save at a smaller size from one computer and at a larger size from another? The pics appear to be the same size but the "digital window" for lack of my understanding and a better term, is smaller on the white ones?

I have been looking around and I have found some info but I am not understanding it. I think I need some technical terms defined...?

Any help appreciated.  :-)

And, yes, I was asked to "fix" my saved files.
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: ronjonp on February 26, 2015, 09:38:13 AM
As far as differing size, look into the THUMBSIZE (http://help.autodesk.com/view/CIV3D/2015/ENU/?guid=GUID-E295F164-A540-4B4A-9844-6159CC91BF89) system variable. I thought the background colors were dependent on your display settings?
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Jeff H on February 26, 2015, 09:45:28 AM
Seems likes background was different depending on if model or paperspace was active when file was last saved.
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on February 26, 2015, 09:57:13 AM
As far as differing size, look into the THUMBSIZE (http://help.autodesk.com/view/CIV3D/2015/ENU/?guid=GUID-E295F164-A540-4B4A-9844-6159CC91BF89) system variable. I thought the background colors were dependent on your display settings?

THUMBSIZE is already set at 8 (FYI: I am in AutoCAD 2014, not C3D but it does have the THUMBSIZE variable)

Seems likes background was different depending on if model or paperspace was active when file was last saved.

Checking into that...
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on February 26, 2015, 10:00:59 AM
Seems likes background was different depending on if model or paperspace was active when file was last saved.

Checking into that...
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 :uglystupid2: Sometimes the simple answers elude you. Thumbnail uses last save.  :yes:

Thank you!
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: ronjonp on February 26, 2015, 10:07:00 AM
It also depends on the color of your back ground. Try setting the color of your paperspace tab to red then back to white.
Make sure UPDATETHUMBNAIL (http://help.autodesk.com/view/ACD/2015/ENU/?guid=GUID-8DEFD44A-66B1-479E-9FBC-8ECADA03EFAC) is set to 16 if you want updates on every save.
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on February 26, 2015, 10:18:35 AM
It also depends on the color of your back ground. Try setting the color of your paperspace tab to red then back to white.
Make sure UPDATETHUMBNAIL (http://help.autodesk.com/view/ACD/2015/ENU/?guid=GUID-8DEFD44A-66B1-479E-9FBC-8ECADA03EFAC) is set to 16 if you want updates on every save.

Yup, that's it!  :yay!:

So what does 15 do?

(Help File makes me think of Jack Sparrow, "That's mildly unhelpful!")
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: mjfarrell on February 26, 2015, 10:19:46 AM
It also depends on the color of your back ground. Try setting the color of your paperspace tab to red then back to white.
Make sure UPDATETHUMBNAIL (http://help.autodesk.com/view/ACD/2015/ENU/?guid=GUID-8DEFD44A-66B1-479E-9FBC-8ECADA03EFAC) is set to 16 if you want updates on every save.


So what does 15 do?



It does what the sum of 8,4,2, and 1 would do....
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on February 26, 2015, 10:59:19 AM
It also depends on the color of your back ground. Try setting the color of your paperspace tab to red then back to white.
Make sure UPDATETHUMBNAIL (http://help.autodesk.com/view/ACD/2015/ENU/?guid=GUID-8DEFD44A-66B1-479E-9FBC-8ECADA03EFAC) is set to 16 if you want updates on every save.


So what does 15 do?

 :-P



It does what the sum of 8,4,2, and 1 would do....
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on February 27, 2015, 09:28:32 AM
Okay, it's half fixed. The colors are right and in the AutoCAD window the thumbnails appear to be the same size, however, they look a bit different, mine save on the bottom with no "extra top space" (see pic) and in the Windows Explorer window, in the preview pane, most of them pull up to fit the window and the ones I saved come up as a tile in the middle that's much harder to see.

Is this an AutoCAD save setting or a Window Explorer Setting? I am guessing it's AutoCAD because only the drawings saved from my computer are doing this.

I'm more concerned about the size in explorer than the placement in AutoCAD.
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: mjfarrell on February 27, 2015, 09:35:54 AM
verify same "THUMBSIZE" (System Variable)
 
 
 
Specifies the display resolution in pixels for all thumbnail preview images.

compare yours to one that is OK
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: ronjonp on February 27, 2015, 09:36:57 AM
verify same "THUMBSIZE" (System Variable)
 
 
 
Specifies the display resolution in pixels for all thumbnail preview images.

compare yours to one that is OK
I think she's already looked (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=48960.msg540761#msg540761) into that.
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: mjfarrell on February 27, 2015, 09:42:33 AM
verify same "THUMBSIZE" (System Variable)
 
 
 
Specifies the display resolution in pixels for all thumbnail preview images.

compare yours to one that is OK
I think she's already looked (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=48960.msg540761#msg540761) into that.

That would be why I said "VERIFY"  she may have set hers different than the others....we are attempting to troubleshoot a problem without access to the computer(s) exhibiting said problem.
In doing so no possibility should be overlooked, or assumed to be correct.

And I check that very fact prior to posting....but thanks for attempting to police responses to prevent circular references.
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: ronjonp on February 27, 2015, 09:46:32 AM
verify same "THUMBSIZE" (System Variable)
 
 
 
Specifies the display resolution in pixels for all thumbnail preview images.

compare yours to one that is OK
I think she's already looked (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=48960.msg540761#msg540761) into that.
....but thanks for attempting to police responses to prevent circular references.
You're welcome (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=48960.msg540845#msg540845)  :P
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on February 27, 2015, 09:52:19 AM
verify same "THUMBSIZE" (System Variable)

It's 8.

Just FYI:
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: ronjonp on February 27, 2015, 09:55:08 AM
verify same "THUMBSIZE" (System Variable)

It's 8.
Now what is it set to on the other computers ?
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: mjfarrell on February 27, 2015, 09:56:23 AM
verify same "THUMBSIZE" (System Variable)

It's 8.

And is everyone's also set to 8?

Further....within autocad:   To change the file icon to a thumbnail preview, click the drop-down list at the top of the Recent Documents or Open Documents lists and choose small icons, large icons, small images, or large images.

Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on February 27, 2015, 10:01:20 AM
Further....within autocad:   To change the file icon to a thumbnail preview, click the drop-down list at the top of the Recent Documents or Open Documents lists and choose small icons, large icons, small images, or large images.

Large Images.

And is everyone's also set to 8?

Now what is it set to on the other computers ?

Checking on thumbnail size 8...
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on February 27, 2015, 10:18:21 AM
Makes no sense to me but there thumbsize is set to 3.

Set mine to 3. Opened, zoomed to extents, saved. So far no difference.
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: ronjonp on February 27, 2015, 10:30:43 AM
Makes no sense to me but there thumbsize is set to 3.

Set mine to 3. Opened, zoomed to extents, saved. So far no difference.


This would fix your problem :P
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: mjfarrell on February 27, 2015, 10:31:43 AM
That falls back to the UPDATETHUMBNAIL setting and function....so they may not all automaniacally 'fix' themselves
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: mjfarrell on February 27, 2015, 10:33:34 AM
you know they might be better off spending time using DRAWING PROPERTIES and not this thumbnail nonsense to track what is or is not happening with a file


Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on February 27, 2015, 10:39:54 AM
you know they might be better off spending time using DRAWING PROPERTIES and not this thumbnail nonsense to track what is or is not happening with a file

Had I the seniority... :whistling:  :-) but, alas, I am unqualified in other areas.  :wink:
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on February 27, 2015, 10:44:34 AM
Makes no sense to me but there thumbsize is set to 3.

Set mine to 3. Opened, zoomed to extents, saved. So far no difference.


This would fix your problem :P
.

I have been using details and the pre-view pain with extra large icons.

Already set on Extra Large Icons...I wonder if it has to do with too much detail...

Wait a minute...this one came up different...
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: mjfarrell on February 27, 2015, 10:47:14 AM
he was suggesting setting the folder view(s) to DETAILS and NOT  use the image file or preview 'feature' at all....mostly as a joke I'm sure
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: ronjonp on February 27, 2015, 10:49:38 AM
....mostly as a joke I'm sure


DING DING! :) Feels like we're chasing our tails.
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on February 27, 2015, 10:51:51 AM
he was suggesting setting the folder view(s) to DETAILS and NOT  use the image file or preview 'feature' at all....mostly as a joke I'm sure

Yeah, I figured that out a bit late and modified my post.


DING DING! :) Feels like we're chasing our tails.

 :grumpy: Tell me about it.
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: ronjonp on February 27, 2015, 10:52:54 AM
...


 :grumpy: Tell me about it.

It feels like we're chasing our tails :)
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on February 27, 2015, 10:54:50 AM
...


 :grumpy: Tell me about it.

It feels like we're chasing our tails :)

 :-D

Well, looks like I have something to chase in my spare time. <very fizzled out yay>
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on March 10, 2015, 10:51:49 AM
I still haven't figured this out. My co-worker insists it's a setting I toggled somewhere and wants my "small" drawings to look like his "big" drawings. Any suggestions or ideas are welcome.  :|

TIA
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: ronjonp on March 10, 2015, 11:08:06 AM
Just a guess but are you using a widescreen monitor & he's not? The thumbnail preview seems to take on whatever shape your AutoCAD window is.
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: Bethrine on March 10, 2015, 11:37:40 AM
Just a guess but are you using a widescreen monitor & he's not? The thumbnail preview seems to take on whatever shape your AutoCAD window is.

Aha! He has the same monitor as I do but at least I can "create" a similar looking thumbnail now so thank you for that!

We both zoom to extents before every save. Maybe it's a zoom or a drawing limits setting?
Title: Re: picture on save question
Post by: huiz on March 10, 2015, 11:47:55 AM
I still haven't figured this out. My co-worker insists it's a setting I toggled somewhere and wants my "small" drawings to look like his "big" drawings. Any suggestions or ideas are welcome.  :|

TIA

Maybe it's a Windows thing, the same happens here sometimes. Below an example, all icons are exactly the same size.