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CAD Forums => CAD General => Topic started by: VerticalMojo on April 28, 2006, 12:22:46 PM
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It works fine on 2007, but I save our dwgs as a 2000 dwg and when other people open them they seem to lose there ability to copy and paste... :?
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This is not cool, I will have to drop down back to 2000 if thats the case....
2007 is getting a low score from me! :realmad:
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Something about that doesn't sound right.
I don't have 2007, so I can't prove or disprove what you're saying, but CTRL+C and CTRL+V is Windows functionality. Is this problem occurring on multiple machines with 2000 loaded? Have you tried Copy with Base Point, Paste As Block, Paste Special, etc.?
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_pasteclip appears to be nonoperative in a translated document.
Copy works as expected
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Hi,
But the question is if you configured your AutoCAD v.2007 to save how AutoCAD v.2004, doesn't work the Copy&Paste commands???
See: Menu Tools -> Options -> Tab Open and Save. Select "save as AutoCAD 2004/2004LT"
I don't know if I'm explain very well :-(
Bye
Yolanda
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It should still work if saved to 2004......
Is that what your asking Yolanda?
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VM,
Have you tried a support Request ??
If so, What was the response. ?
If not, ...... perhaps you need to.
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... and ditto with the other issues you are having.
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WoW!! A shortcut to having Laurie Comerfort yell at you to "DO THE TUTORIALS!!". Man!! Just what I always wanted! ^-^
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:lmao:
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I know an number of 2007 LT users get a pop up alert with an ARX problem,doenst go until theyve clicked it for about 3mins.This happens every time they paste something.Quite frustrating.Maybe something ishnt quite right with the copy paste function in 2007, hard to beleive though itd get that far without it being noticed.
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I am unable to send a support Request because of the limited access to the Internet that I have here. I will bring it up with upper management, and hopefully I will be able to soon.
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I can understand you fruistration I almost had 2007 removed from my machine and replaced with 2006.Im going to try and ride the wave of problems with the software for a bit longer and see what can be done about them.
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We have the same problems here. no copy and paste for lower users, mine works though :-D
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Can someone request some support on this? I am unable to and would like to see a solution to this...... This is a big problem here at the office!
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Can someone request some support on this? I am unable to and would like to see a solution to this...... This is a big problem here at the office!
support request done. I will keep you informed of any outcome.
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Can someone request some support on this? I am unable to and would like to see a solution to this...... This is a big problem here at the office!
support request done. I will keep you informed of any outcome.
Thanks Andy! Much appreciated! 8-)
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oh man... I just did a request to upgrade to 2007 and promised backwards compatibility.....
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oh man... I just did a request to upgrade to 2007 and promised backwards compatibility.....
If your quote was for Civil 3D, you may really want to reconsider - it seems there are some real problems with Vault and data shortcuts.
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What bothers me too is that even if you have 2006 you are still unable to open 2007 dwgs..... To me these two versions are to close together to have them incompatible...
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Everyone is going to have to start upgrading every year, creating an almost continuous learning curve.
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This is the reply from the Autodesk Support Team.
Dear Andy,
Thanks for the additional information, I have now reproduced the problem.
To workaround the issue you should send R2000 DXF files to users of AutoCAD 2000. Alternatively the R2000 DWG files can be inserted into a new drawing in AutoCAD 2000.
This issue is currently under investigation by our development team.
Best Regards,
Dan Scales
Autodesk Subscription Support Team
About as much use as a fart in a spacesuit, i'm sure you'll agree.
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Do you guys ever stop bitching. Your expectations regarding backward compatibility are completely unrealistic in my opinion. They've given you a solution, be ecstatic about it for heavens sake.
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Do you guys ever stop Babying. Your expectations regarding backward compatibility are completely unrealistic in my opinion. They've given you a solution, be ecstatic about it for heavens sake.
Doesn't bother me, I can still cut and paste OK, but everyone who gets my drawings and doesn't have 2007 can't.
I spoke to them again, saying it wasn't acceptable. their reply was
Dear Andy,
The issue has been logged with with the developers with with a high severity issue. I am waiting to hear back from them as to whether a fix will be released.
Unfortunately other than the architect upgrading their version of AutoCAD, the only workarounds are the two I mentioned previously. I would really recommend the upgrade route for the architect as AutoCAD 2000 is now a retired product and no longer supported.
I will get back to you as soon as I hear anything from our developers.
Best Regards,
Dan Scales
Autodesk Subscription Support Team
In other words, give us £3500 odds or get stuffed.
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This is a ridiculous solution.I use 2007 ADT so I have to save down to 2000 versions for my DWG.These files are then worked on by some users using 2006LT.They get this ridiclously long loop of an error message saying an ARX error occured.One way to get rid of the message quicker than a couple of mins from pressing return is to hold down ESC.Were also notcing that there are now sissues with the 2006 Lt trying to insert XREFS that were previously saved down from 2007 to 2000.They get an ARX error message and no matter what they do the XREF would not insert.Im also still having issues myself with 2007,still unhappy with it(I can walk on my hands to the plotter with my eyes closed quicker than the plot dialogue box comes up),might have to be removed.
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Do you guys ever stop Babying. Your expectations regarding backward compatibility are completely unrealistic in my opinion. They've given you a solution, be ecstatic about it for heavens sake.
Kerry, I don't believe that we are babying, it is just good business to have a product we pay for work the way it should. 2007 has an option to save down to 2000 and it should work as it was programmed to do. If they didn't want to allow 2007 to save down to 2000 they should have stated that in their release and should have removed the option to do so.
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*side note*
In Softplan (the cad software that I use) there has never been a "saving down" Once you open a drawing in a newer version there is no way to open it in an earlier version. Even the patches between versions are this way.
*carry on*
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How much does softplan cost?
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Single seat $3000. You have to have a USB key to run it so only one key per seat. Basically $3000 per key. But you do get a break on additional keys when you upgrade to new versions.
Upgrades have been about $750 for one seat which includes one key and $400 per each additional key.
Average a new version about every 2 yrs.
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Can you open .dwg files?
Whats the diffrence between AutoCAD and Softplan?
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I can import and export .dwg and .dxf. Softplan works great for residential and light commercial but it's pretty limited outside of that. I can draw lines, shapes, and solids of course but when I draw for instance a wall I am drawing a 2x6 wall 8' high with siding on the outside and sheetrock on the inside (depending on what wall type I'm drawing of course) Once I "build" the model the elevations I generate from it are approx. 90% done for me. Of course I've been using it a while but the learning curve is fairly good from what I hear from others.
I haven't used Acad since School 18+ yrs. ago ( I think it was R12 heh) so as far as most of the differences I'm not sure I'm the best one to say. Greg has used both I know.
Also SP doesn't support any customization programming as far as I know. But it seems from reading Youse guy's posts that it already has alot of the features built in that you are trying to do. But it's all menus and buttons with a few hotkeys. No command line.
Greg may be able to elaborate more.
http://www.softplan.com/
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Can you open .dwg files?
Whats the diffrence between AutoCAD and Softplan?
This is driving me crazy! This is something that has always worked no matter what version of AutoCAD right? I could copy regular objects from 2006 and straight up paste then into R11 no problem right?
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I had to downgrade to 2006 and there seems to be no problems with copy and paste....But....
The problem we are having is trying to fix the drawings that we created in 2007 so that people will be able to paste in them again. Right now people need parts of those effected drawings for other drawings. So I have to cut and paste those parts in 2006 and into a new drawing, now making that drawing effected because it carries the problem with it. Like a virus!
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I think the only way you will be able to get rid of your "virus" is with one of the early workarounds and export to DXF. I hope there aren't too many files affected.
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Found a thread (http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?threadID=464436) that references your problem.I think this new 2007 format or the changes to the ARX might have not had their problems ironed out before the product was released.
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I think the only way you will be able to get rid of your "virus" is with one of the early workarounds and export to DXF. I hope there aren't too many files affected.
Doesn't work..... But that's only when I use 2006 and export to DXF.
About 10 dwgs effected but the number are growing.....
Found a thread (http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?threadID=464436) that references your problem.I think this new 2007 format or the changes to the ARX might have not had their problems ironed out before the product was released.
Yeah I found that too... seems as if Autocad made a booboo
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I know a lot of drawings that were corrupted so badly AutoCAD could not open them have been recovered by opening in Intellicad. Has anyone tried that approach?
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My temporary fix:
From the ACAD2002, open the drawing I need the information to be copied to, insert a block of the drawing that has the information I need. Explode the block(s) and erase the info I dont need. Lame, but it works for now. Less steps than dxf-out, dxf-in. I am not working in 2007 any further until this is fixed, doing so will "infect" other drawings.
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My temporary fix:
From the ACAD2002, open the drawing I need the information to be copied to, insert a block of the drawing that has the information I need. Explode the block(s) and erase the info I dont need. Lame, but it works for now. Less steps than dxf-out, dxf-in. I am not working in 2007 any further until this is fixed, doing so will "infect" other drawings.
You can also Xref the drawing and bind it.......
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. I am not working in 2007 any further until this is fixed, doing so will "infect" other drawings.
Even if they release a patch for 2007 this will cause a great deal of problems as those using 2007 wont be inclined to use the patch as they are not on the receiving end of the problem.Im searching the autopdesk daily for some kind of answers to the most annoying problems,but nothing so far.
There seems to be a similar problem (http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=10093.0;topicseen) emerging here.Ive also mentioned before that our 2006LT users are getting an ARX error that repeats itself for a few minutes while they try cancelling it everytime they try to do a copy paste.We are intending to purchase some more 2006/7 seats but Im beginning to think someone might have to do some rethinking or hold off until Autodesk rectify this problem.What happens when you send a 2007 drawings that are saved down to an earlier version to a client and they run into these problems.
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My temporary fix:
From the ACAD2002, open the drawing I need the information to be copied to, insert a block of the drawing that has the information I need. Explode the block(s) and erase the info I dont need. Lame, but it works for now. Less steps than dxf-out, dxf-in. I am not working in 2007 any further until this is fixed, doing so will "infect" other drawings.
You can also Xref the drawing and bind it.......
of course... but just a couple more steps.
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Maybe (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/item?siteID=123112&id=7058769&linkID=2475323) this will help?This is about my 10th attempt at posting this as the internet connection at work kept failing. :roll:
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http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=7450124&linkID=2475161
Copy and Paste Hotfix. Hooray they fixed it.
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I'm too late .. again ..... just logged on to report the fix was posted by Adesk.
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Awesome.... :-)
I will probably stick with 2006 for awhile.... But its good to know they fixed it. 8-)
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http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=7450124&linkID=2475161
Copy and Paste Hotfix. Hooray they fixed it.
Anyone notice that they also released a Hotfix for the LDD Crash On Save bug?
Both fixes involve replacing the ACDB17.DLL file. So does this mean you have to pick which bug you want to fix?
:|
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(Just catching up with this thread.)
I've got 5 users on 2006, and I'm running 2006 and 2007. We've not encountered these problems. The only problem I have encountered is when I edit our .dwt file in '07,... the others cant open it when they start a new drawing file. (even though my 07 is set to save as 04-06). Apparently there is no option to save as a previous release for dwt files. <heads up>
Remember, (IMO) 2007 is still a beta version. :x
I'll wait for a service pack before I roll it out to everyone else.
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replacing the ACDB17.DLL file. So does this mean you have to pick which bug you want to fix?
It is the same file.....it fixes BOTH bugs. It's also the same file included in the C3D2007 SP1
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this (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=7450124&linkID=2475161) should help those of you sending the drawings there is also another patch for those who get the error when receiving drawings saved down from 2007.I still cant believe Autodesk released 2007 with such a fundemental flaw.Weve already had irate clients complaining about the problem when they receive drawings
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I still cant believe Autodesk released 2007 with such a fundemental flaw.Weve already had irate clients complaining about the problem when they receive drawings
Thats exactly what I said! How in the world? oh well... I bought the software and never really used it until they released the fix... big thumbs down!
I'm just glad its fixed because it was causing so much trouble with an office running 2007/2002
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