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t-bear

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« on: March 15, 2004, 01:37:35 PM »
Ok, I got a question...
We're in the process of upgrading our CADD dept here and I've got 2 'puters I'm lookin' at...the specs are as follows:

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Station #1....
 
 MOTHERBOARD INTEL D865GBFL / ATX / Prescott P4 / 800FSB / DDR 400 / AUDIO / Integ. Gr. / 8X AGPG / 10-100 LAN  
OPERATING SYSTEM MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL / FACTORY INSTALLED  
PROCESSOR INTEL P4 2.6GHZ HT / 800 FSB / 512K L2 CACHE  
MEMORY 1GB - 2 x 512MB DDR333 DIMM (Qty 2)  
HARD DRIVE 40GB / 7200RPM / ATA-100  
HARD DRIVE - 2 None  
OPTICAL DRIVE - 1 52MAX IDE CD-ROM - BLACK  
OPTICAL DRIVE - 2 None  
FLOPPY DRIVE None  
GRAPHICS CARD eVGA GeForce FX5200 8XAGP 128M DVI/SV  
SOUND CARD INTEGRATED 6 CHANNEL AUDIO  
CASE / PWR SPLY ATX MID TOWER CASE / HT Ready / 300W / USB / 2ND FAN / BLACK  
WARRANTY 1 YEAR DEPOT WARRANTY  
MONITOR None  
KEYBOARD BENQ MEMBRANE KEYBOARD - PS/2 - BLACK  
MOUSE MS WHEEL OPTICAL MOUSE - PS2/USB - BLACK  
MOUSE PAD None  
SPEAKERS None  
LAN CARD INTEGRATED INTEL 10/100 LAN  
FAX MODEM None  
TAPE DRIVE None  
POWER PRODUCTS None  
APPLICATION SOFTWARE None  
UTILITY SOFTWARE None  
SCANNER None  
PRINTER None  
PRINTER CABLE None  


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Station #2

MOTHERBOARD ASUS A7V8X-X / ATX / ATHLON-DURON / DDR400 / AUDIO / 8X AGP / LAN  
OPERATING SYSTEM MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL / FACTORY INSTALLED  
PROCESSOR AMD ATHLON XP 3000+ 333 FSB W/512K OD L2 CACHE  
MEMORY 1GB - 2 x 512MB DDR333 DIMMS (Qty 2)  
HARD DRIVE 40GB / 7200RPM / ATA-100  
OPTICAL DRIVE - 1 52MAX IDE CD-ROM - BLACK  
OPTICAL DRIVE - 2 None  
FLOPPY DRIVE None  
GRAPHICS CARD eVGA GeForce FX5200 8XAGP 128M DVI/SV  
SOUND CARD INTEGRATED 6 CHANNEL AUDIO  
CASE / PWR SPLY ATX MID TOWER CASE / HT Ready / 300W / USB / 2ND FAN / BLACK  
WARRANTY 1 YEAR DEPOT WARRANTY  
MONITOR None  
KEYBOARD BENQ MEMBRANE KEYBOARD - PS/2 - BLACK  
MOUSE OPTICAL WHEEL MOUSE - PS/2 - BLACK  
MOUSE PAD None  
SPEAKERS None  
LAN CARD INTEGRATED 10/100 LAN  
FAX MODEM None  
TAPE DRIVE None  
POWER PRODUCTS None  
APPLICATION SOFTWARE None  
UTILITY SOFTWARE None  
SCANNER None  
PRINTER None  
PRINTER CABLE None  


As you can see, the only diff is the mother board and processor.  Price is a wash....$35.00 higher for the P4. We're buying two stations and installing Inventor Suite on one and 2K4 on the other.

So....what are your feelings on which is the better set-up?
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daron

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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2004, 01:40:39 PM »
I've never used anything else but Pentiums for cad. I hear AMD is just as good, if not better, but I'd take the P4, since it's on the company dime.
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2004, 02:04:12 PM »
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hyposmurf

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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2004, 02:18:09 PM »
AMD are usually a bit cheaper,so I'd personally get an AMD,but as Daron said if your companies paying for it sod it go for the Intel.AMD actually run at slightly lower clock speeds than other processors of the same specified clock speed,you can find comparison tables on the net,such as this: http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20031223/index.html
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M-dub

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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2004, 03:42:38 PM »
I voted for Intel, but that vote is based on an OLD AMD...which, on a regular basis, made me M-A-D.

My company has me on a Celeron and I haven't had a WHOLE lot of problems, but they do happen now and then.  My Pentiun II Celeron had lots of problems, but again, that was an older computer (the one after the AMD).
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M-dub

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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2004, 03:44:10 PM »
For $35, go for the pentium (that's my opinion anyway)
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pmvliet

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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2004, 04:19:08 PM »
Being that both Motherboards are pretty much the same, I would go for the intel board. I have a older AMD processor and the reason I bought it is that it had 2MB of on-board cache compared to 512k on a comparable Intel board. I have pretty much two identical machines(1 intel and 1 amd) and could feel a difference with the two different processor types.

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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2004, 04:32:14 PM »
Quite honestly I like AMD much better than Intel but in the above examples, if that is indeed the two you have to choose from, go with the P4 box. The main reasoning is the FSB ...
The systems themselves are essentially the same with the exception of the MB...
If you can get a minor change on the P4 box, request DDR400 memory instead of the DDR333. The performance will then match the FSB of the MB and processor.
The AMD will not actually run at 3000+ but in a benchmark test it performs at or above 3Ghz because of the built in XP commands in the  chip itself. AutoCAD unfortunately does not make use of these features so it will not help with it. At least that is my understanding of it.
So.. P4 it is...
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Hangman

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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2004, 04:48:56 PM »
Aaahhh My field of expertise, ...  sorta.

Here's the scoop of the poop.   Intel has taken the lead for the better processor for quite some time.  However, both Intel and AMD have their own niche.   Intel is designed mainly for workstations where AMD is designed more for the gamers and hardcore enthusiasts.   Intel, when they create their chips, have always pushed the chip to the limit of stability and labeled their processor at that speed.   AMD has always labeled their processors a bit slower than the maximum stability.   Intel is not very good for overclocking, stability issues mainly.   AMD, who has designed their chip for the hardcore enthusiast, has great overclocking abilities.   Intels chip is designed more towards a workstation and works great for CAD, Photoshop and other processor intense applications that use math quite a bit.   AMD, better for gaming and other not-so-intensive math, but more intense graphics.
So, If you looking for a Workhorse, CAD machine type of system, go with the Intel and a good Graphics card.
My vote is the Intel.
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hendie

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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2004, 03:24:51 AM »
sheesh, all this just after I ordered an AM :yikes: D 3200
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daron

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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2004, 07:53:45 AM »
Yes, but your amd is, I presume, NOT on the company dime.
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hendie

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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2004, 08:05:59 AM »
if only  :roll:
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2004, 08:18:34 PM »
If'n it makes you feel any better I ONLY use AMD AthlonXP chips at home .. I have 4 systems right now and each one has Athlon XP 2600+ w/ 256 DDR333

Now the reason I voted for the intel system is that the DDR can be DDR400 and the MB has a 800Mhz FSB..
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hyposmurf

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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2004, 02:33:35 PM »
You have four Athlon XP's at home! :shock: Your boss must be paying you too much :)
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t-bear

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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2004, 08:45:37 PM »
Nah...he "liberated" them.....
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