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Title: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: gmyroup on September 27, 2007, 11:38:41 AM
Editing dimensions in ACAD doesn't appear to be very easy. I was wondering how often you edit a dimension (not the dimension style) right after you've created it.

Jerry
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: T.Willey on September 27, 2007, 11:47:28 AM
What are you trying to edit?  I have found when I needed to edit them, it was pretty easy to get what I needed.  If you are referring to your other post, the one about the radius and diameter, then that is only one things that was hard at first, but never again now that you know how.  :wink:
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: Maverick® on September 27, 2007, 12:42:04 PM
*Guess*

  Mygroup is developing some software and just looking for some user input on drawing habits.
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: Josh Nieman on September 27, 2007, 01:04:28 PM
I find that editing dimensions is very very easy.

For the record, as far as tolerance/precision/etc... NEVER edit, aside from adding text notes to the end... such as "MIN" "MAX" and sometimes if I'm doing control joint spacings on a large foundation slab, I'll dimension an overall and edit the text to be "18 JOINTS @ 25'-0" O.C. = 425'-0""  with the 425'-0" being an unedited <> dimension.

Otherwise it's dimension style for everything.  You can't exactly automate something for notes.
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: deegeecees on September 27, 2007, 01:37:33 PM
...  You can't exactly automate something for notes.

 :?
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: daron on September 27, 2007, 01:52:02 PM
It really depends on who I'm doing work for. Some people allow you to draw in 1/2" fractions or worse and some require that even if there are fractions that everything be set to even increment inches. I can't even have something like 17'-3" and 17'-1" side by side. It gets tough. Of course I could just set a dimstyle to reflect each type of clients requirements.
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: Josh Nieman on September 27, 2007, 02:36:26 PM
...  You can't exactly automate something for notes.

 :?

I mean for times when you need to add "MIN" "MAX" or something... the program won't KNOW when or when not to do it... for special unique instances of text, you can't automate... you can't automate things that are not repetitive, to shorten it.
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: CADaver on September 27, 2007, 05:08:29 PM
If you mean fiddle with the content of the text, nearly never and for much of that we've built custom tools.

If you mean stretch to match the new configuration of the model, we do that all the dang time.
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: Shinyhead on September 27, 2007, 05:11:35 PM
I would say we dim edit at least 5 times per viewport, thats why we automate it the way I showed you, makes it much faster and ensures things are consistant.  We have specific dimedits that load for each clients workspace so the verbiage is consistant with thier standard.
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: CADaver on September 27, 2007, 05:13:42 PM
I would say we dim edit at least 5 times per viewport, thats why we automate it the way I showed you, makes it much faster and ensures things are consistant.  We have specific dimedits that load for each clients workspace so the verbiage is consistant with thier standard.
What are you dimediting, if I can ask??  (or even if I can't...)
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: Shinyhead on September 27, 2007, 05:31:10 PM
We do arch. millwork drawings so for what we do the Common edits tend to be;
<>Hold
<>V.I.F.
<>Clear
<>VFY
EQ
1/2 EQ
EQ A, EQ B, etc
x" MIN.
x" MAX.
<>Field Checked
<>Scribe
<>+/-
<>Carcass
<>Door
<>Countertop
etc, etc

It just depends on what that particular shop wants.

I have scripts that put those in after <> so the drafter pretty much has no chance of messing up the actual dimension shown (if it is).
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: CADaver on September 28, 2007, 08:15:48 AM
.... I have scripts that put those in after <> so the drafter pretty much has no chance of messing up the actual dimension shown (if it is).
ahhh, that's what I was looking for....
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: Shinyhead on September 28, 2007, 09:07:10 AM
When I became cad manager that was the very first thing I changed and the very first company wide email I sent. 

"Hi, I am Chris, your new cad manager and you will NOT override dimension values."   :pissed:
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: Maverick® on September 28, 2007, 09:12:22 AM
"Hi, I am Chris, your new cad manager and you will NOT override dimension values."   :pissed:

....And I am blue.  Fear me!  Mwahahahaha
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: Shinyhead on September 28, 2007, 09:13:35 AM
"Hi, I am Chris, your new cad manager and you will NOT override dimension values."   :pissed:

....And I am blue.  Fear me!  Mwahahahaha

You look a little bit blue yerself there clownboy!   :lol:
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: Maverick® on September 28, 2007, 09:15:53 AM
You look a little bit blue yerself there clownboy!   :lol:

And practically no one fears me.   :-(

Even the rabbits in my yard stare at me with disdain, totally unimpressed.  :-D
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: Shinyhead on September 28, 2007, 09:18:45 AM
Man, and your a spawn clown too.  I am so sorry....    :wink:

Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: Willie on September 28, 2007, 11:17:54 AM
Changing the actual values of dimensions is also one of the trademarks of a brain dead cad monkey...
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: Josh Nieman on September 28, 2007, 11:31:59 AM
Changing the actual values of dimensions is also one of the trademarks of a brain dead cad monkey...

No argument there!

The only times we did that was for in-house fab shop drawings at a company that had "bad" drawing practices.  Then again shop drawings are a whole other breed.  Some things are deliberately not to scale.
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: Shinyhead on September 28, 2007, 11:35:03 AM
Indeed, I learned it early on when I had to revise some drawings done by one of our *supposedly* best drafters and the then cad manager (no longer employed here), I was extremely green as a drafter and barely knew autocad. I was trying to stretch this stupid drawing to a field dimensioned size the overall would stretch, but the dimensions in the breakdown wouldn't.  The math didn't work and I didn't even know it was possible to override dims.  The boss was yelling and hollering because I was taking so long.  I learned real fast what was going on and how to fix it though.  It did not take long for me to move into that persons postion, which was amazing to me to start as a green cad operator, then 9 months later be cad manager, I thought it was a compliment, heh, more like they knew they had a sucker for the job!  :lol:
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: David Hall on September 28, 2007, 12:31:10 PM
Very very rarely, and then only if I cant make the drawing work without editing it.
Title: Re: How often do you edit dimensions (value, tolerance, arrows, etc.)?
Post by: mkweaver on September 29, 2007, 09:24:44 AM
I don't edit dimension often beyond grip-edits.  For those times I do edit, I have the following routines to automate 99%.

DimSE instructions

dse -    Dimension Suppress Extension lines
   Each pick of a dimension cycles through possible combinations
   of suppressed extension lines.  Use this to turn off dimension
   extension lines so that underlying centerlines show.

dsa -    Dimension Suppress Arrows
   Each pick of a dimension cycles through possible combinations
   of suppressed arrows.

dsh -    Dimension Stack Horizontal toggle
   Toggles stacked horizontal fractions on/off

dino-    Dimension INches Only toggle
   Toggles dimensions from inches only to feet and inches

dwd -    Dimension Width Dynamic
   Select a dimension then use the + and - keys on the numeric
   keypad to dynamically decrease and increase the width factor
   for the dimension text.  This width factor is applied as an
   mtext format in the dimension text override.

dth -   Dimension Text Horizontal toggle
   Toggles horizontal location of dimension text, from first
   extension, to centered, to second extension.

dsro -   Dimension suffix RO (Rough Opening)
   Adds \XRO to the dimension suffix as a style override

dspm -   Dimension Suffix Plus/Minus
   Adds %%p to the dimension suffix