Topic: Wipeout. hate it or love it?

[dubb]

What can be done to improve the wipeout command. I really hate this command and I also like it. but i hate it because it doesnt act as it should. I like it because it helps me clean up my drawings. Are there any programs that any of you would like to show us. Techniques? I know there are problems with solid squares and draworder issues. What can be done so that we can just go on with the drawing and not have to worry about having to change a the layer to 255 and editing the pen settings. to me, doing such wil be a hassle. because not everybody knows how to work with wipeouts. why not just make it so when i wipe out, it will wipe out without having to adjust anything. or better yet..worry about anything. The reason why I'm looking for answers is because cad drawings go a looong ways. you never know who gets their hands on these drawings. then who is to blame? they end up saying, "do not use wipeout!" but they are very helpfull.

[LE]

I use wipeout's on my keynotes/details bubbles, as part of the block(s), then when I insert them into a drawing, I just call the command wipeout - frames - off.... and that have been worked for long time.... [if I need to place an arrow or something that is required to be below the wipeout, I just call the draworder to back....]

HTH.

[Krushert]

I just ran into my first issue with Wipeouts, xrefs and plotting.  Any ideals in how to fix it?

I have a floor plan that I xref into a file.  I then place a legend over a portion of the xref that was not applicable in the view in paper space.  Drew a wipewout to mask the portion of the xref that is under the legend.  Works great in both in model space and paper space.  Until I go to plot it.  The xref still shows up thru the wipe out. 

So far I like wipe out.

Can some post a poll on loving, hating Wipe outs.

[Oak3s]

sometimes a wipeout gets messed up (pdf's) if the wipeout is on a plottable layer.

[dan19936]

What can be done to improve the wipeout command.

A toggle for visibility of some sort of screen would be helpful. I don't use wipeouts except in blocks or grouped with textmask because they are too easy to lose. I typically use pen 255 for masking.

Dan

[dubb]

FOR MTEXT, I USUALLY TRY TO USE BACKGROUND MASK, WHICH DOESNT USE WIPEOUTS. BUT IN SOME CASES WHEN I PLOT TO LINES MERGE, IT DOESNT SEEM TO WORK NICELY. IF IT WOULD STILL WORK WHEN PLOTTING WITH LINES MERGE, IT WOULD BE NICE.

[Bryco]

I love wipeouts in hardware blocks.
It's not good to nest blocks with wipeout to far but wipeout seems to work better in blocks than by itself.
I use it in vba and it would nice for autocad to include wipeouts as a native object. (it thinks they are raster images)
Have seen the wipeout problem in pdf's and have no idea what to do with them.

[Maverick®]

I like that song Wipeout because it's easy to sing along too.

[Dinosaur]

I only use them in the form of Express Tools "textmask" and then only sparingly.  The idea is good, but I find them too unpredictable and very easy to forget when the text is erased or moved by a drafter not watching for them.  I also don't care for the results they give with mtext or with leader text and thanks to the numerous complaints I have heard concerning xrefs, which almost all of our work is based upon, their usefulness is extremely limited in our office.  I can't say I hate them, but I sure would like to see them behave consistently wherever they are applied.

[Kerry]

I like that song Wipeout because it's easy to sing along too.

it's an instrumental isn't it ?

[Slim©]

I like that song Wipeout because it's easy to sing along too.

it's an instrumental isn't it ?

Well yeah...     Ha Ha Ha Ha Wipeooout!

Easy words to remember.


Love the concept of wipeout, hate the unpredictability.

[hudster]

I voted hate it. I actually would love to use it, but until they get the drawing order to work correctly i can't use it.  Many a time it's hidden stuff it was meant to show.

[hudster]

I typically use pen 255 for masking.

Could you give us some instructions as to how you set this up, this is something i've never thought of doing.

***edit***
Scrath that, just seen your post in another thread.

[Shade]

I can't say I love wipeouts. There are issues I have with them too, but I use wipeouts extensively.
Most of the building I design are symmetrical, so I draw half the building and mirror it. The wipeouts are used where things differ in the plans.
   I use wipeouts in my doors and windows blocks also. They allow me to insert a door/window with out breaking the walls. This allows me to show a RCP without filling the opening for doors/windows back in.  I use wipeouts with the windows in elevations, thereby allowing me to move the window without re-hatching, or having associative hatching on.   Sure speeds up editing.

The key to wipeouts in drawing order. If you don’t get that right your screwed and a wipeout must also be on a printable layer, else things show through when plotting.

Hope my trick help......

[CADaver]

yes