Topic: ETA of ACAD 09

[M-dub]

I predict yet another DWG format change.

I bet you're right... I believe it's every three years that they change.  Trying to find literature on that... anyone know of it's whereabouts?

[Guest]

I predict yet another DWG format change.

I was at an AutoCAD MEP seminar a few weeks back and one of the Adesk employees mentioned that there was going to be a Vanilla DWG format change as well as MAJOR changes to the Electrical portion of MEP (which includes yet another MEP content format change).  *sigh*

I've only downloaded 2 of the 5 688MB downloads for the MEP beta so far.  I'm a little reluctant to install it on my home computer.  I'd rather do it at work if the IT guys will let me.

[M-dub]

I predict yet another DWG format change.

I bet you're right... I believe it's every three years that they change.  Trying to find literature on that... anyone know of it's whereabouts?

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=8446386

3. Has the AutoCAD 2008 DWG drawing file format changed from the AutoCAD 2005/2006/2007 products?

The AutoCAD 2008 DWG file format is the same DWG file format as in AutoCAD 2007. The AutoCAD 2007 file format was updated and is different from the 2004/2005/2006 DWG file format. This AutoCAD 2008 DWG format is also the same DWG file format that is used in the latest releases of Autodesk ‘s industry-specific products such as AutoCAD® Architecture, AutoCAD® Map 3D, AutoCAD® Civil 3D® , AutoCAD® Electrical, and AutoCAD® Mechanical software applications. Nonetheless, you can still easily share files between design teams using any previous version of AutoCAD. As in the past, this new AutoCAD version opens DWG™ files from all earlier DWG versions of the software created by any Autodesk product.

This isn't exactly what I was looking for, but I know I've read somewhere that they stick with one format for three years, then update... or something along those lines.

[Josh Nieman]

The main reason you always hear the '3 year rule' is because it's been that way since 2000 at least.

'00, '00i, '02,
'04, '05, '06
'07, '08, '09

It's mainly prediction based on history.  I don't think I ever saw anything 'official'

I have seen employee comments that they run a general 'trend' of changes from year to year... first year is a major internal change which includes a file version update.  Second year includes new tools, refined tools.  Third year includes interface updates.

[Kate M]

Christ I hate odd year releases.  Big changes in ACAD 2009 means we get to wait until ACAD 2010 to have a truly usable release.

That's not really true anymore...nothin' really wrong with 2007.

[M-dub]

I'm guessing that R13 left a REALLY bad taste in his mouth.  May not have been an odd 'year' per se, but it certainly was an Odd release... in any sense of the word.

[Bob Wahr]

Christ I hate odd year releases.  Big changes in ACAD 2009 means we get to wait until ACAD 2010 to have a truly usable release.

That's not really true anymore...nothin' really wrong with 2007.

I skipped 2007 so I can't answer to it.  Remains to be seen with 2009.

And I know that I'm the only person in the world, but I liked 13.

[Josh Nieman]

Christ I hate odd year releases.  Big changes in ACAD 2009 means we get to wait until ACAD 2010 to have a truly usable release.

That's not really true anymore...nothin' really wrong with 2007.

I skipped 2007 so I can't answer to it.  Remains to be seen with 2009.

And I know that I'm the only person in the world, but I liked 13.

So if you continually skip odd-year releases, how the heck would you know if the trend of suck ever ended?

[Bob Wahr]

Um, I skipped 2007 which is one release.  Not sure where you're getting that I continually skip releases.

[M-dub]

Um, I skipped 2007 which is one release.  Not sure where you're getting that I continually skip releases.

It's mainly prediction based on history.

I know... taken out of context, but still....

[daron]

I only skipped 2005 and that was by pure coincidence, but what I did see of it, I'm not disappointed by having missed it. Also, I had no problem with R13 either Bob. Now, R10? That was a release I could've done without, only because I learned on R12 and my first job dangled R12 in my face, but would only allow me to use R10.

[Bob Wahr]

r10 was good following r9, probably not so much backing up from 12.  11 sucked hard from what I saw although only used it on one project before reinstalling 10.  Wasn't a big fan of 14 either.

[Josh Nieman]

Um, I skipped 2007 which is one release.  Not sure where you're getting that I continually skip releases.

I said "if"

You said you skipped 2007, and made an indication that you somehow thought 2008 was going to be a pile of crap, so I was just sayin'... try it before you automatically discard it.

[Josh Nieman]

Um, I skipped 2007 which is one release.  Not sure where you're getting that I continually skip releases.

It's mainly prediction based on history.

I know... taken out of context, but still....

There is no 'but still' to that, sorry.

[Bob Wahr]

Um, I skipped 2007 which is one release.  Not sure where you're getting that I continually skip releases.

I said "if"

You said you skipped 2007, and made an indication that you somehow thought 2008 was going to be a pile of crap, so I was just sayin'... try it before you automatically discard it.

I plan to install 2009 and if it doesn't appear to be unusably buggy, to implement it.  I just expect, based on past experience, that they will add a lot of new "features" that won't work well, fully, or possibly at all until 2010.  I'm more than willing to be pleasantly surprised.