TheSwamp
CAD Forums => CAD General => Topic started by: ELOQUINTET on May 30, 2007, 10:52:00 AM
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Hey guys,
I decided today that I would finally begin working in 2008. I had noticed a difference in cycling while playing around but now that I'm really drawing it was very annoying. I cycle through objects by holding down control and left mouse but now it doesn't work. Maybe this was introduced in 2007 for 3d but I just discovered there is a new variable listed below FYI ahhhh not it's back:
LEGACYCTRLPICK
Specifies the keys for selection cycling and the behavior for CTRL + left-click.
Specifies the keys for selection cycling and the behavior for CTRL + left-click.
0
CTRL + left-click is used to select subobjects (faces, edges, and vertices) on 3D solids.
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CTRL + left-click is used to cycle through overlapping objects. Disallows using CTRL + left-click to select subobjects on 3D solids.
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Nice. Although I've gotten used to the new and "improved" way, it's nice to know there's a way to go back!
Thanks.
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Just be aware of the 3D selection implications...and that the variable doesn't exist in LT. :pissed:
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Matt,
What is the new and "improved" way? I accidentally checked to not show the box again :? Kate explain what you mean by 3d implications? Do you mean that I can toggle it back when doing 3d. We don't do much 3d here and when we do we don't use Autocad.
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The new and improved way is the more complicated way (IMHO): pressing CTRL + SPACE.
It was a joke. I haven't seen any benefit from pressing C + S to cycle between entities. Just more confusion (and questions from users).
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While I'm here Can I ask a non related question. I have my dashboard set to Autohide but I also want to add to ability to have it expand by shortcut key like there is for the other palettes (ctrl+3). Sometimes I get annoyed with having to hover over it all the time. How can I do this?
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ummm Matt just out of curiousity I switched the variable back and tried to figure out the new way and can't. Let's say I have two lines very close to one another, How do I toggle through them to erase the one I want? I couldn't get it to work???
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'Spose to be SHIFT + SPACE, not ctrl + space like I mentioned earlier.
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While I'm here Can I ask a non related question. I have my dashboard set to Autohide but I also want to add to ability to have it expand by shortcut key like there is for the other palettes (ctrl+3). Sometimes I get annoyed with having to hover over it all the time. How can I do this?
Do you have it docked or anchored?
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I had it anchored but suppose I could dock it. I was thinking about creating a temporary override but doesn't a command need to be active for those to work. Basically I want to put my toolbars in the dashboard and want to be able to quickly access them from the keyboard as well as hover method. I have also added dashboard to my right click menu.
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The reason I was asking is because anchored palettes seem to open MUCH faster than docked palettes (in my experience). As soon as I hover over the icon the palette is displayed...there's no lag time at all. It just seems to me that that would be faster than pressing CTRL + 3.
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The reason I was asking is because anchored palettes seem to open MUCH faster than docked palettes (in my experience). As soon as I hover over the icon the palette is displayed...there's no lag time at all. It just seems to me that that would be faster than pressing CTRL + 3.
Doesn't answer your question directly I know but may be of help.
AutoCAD Tool Palette Rollup and Rollout Speed (http://autodesk.blogs.com/between_the_lines/2007/05/autocad_tool_pa.html)
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The reason I was asking is because anchored palettes seem to open MUCH faster than docked palettes (in my experience). As soon as I hover over the icon the palette is displayed...there's no lag time at all. It just seems to me that that would be faster than pressing CTRL + 3.
Doesn't answer your question directly I know but may be of help.
AutoCAD Tool Palette Rollup and Rollout Speed (http://autodesk.blogs.com/between_the_lines/2007/05/autocad_tool_pa.html)
I thought about that, but when the palettes are anchored and you hover over them BAM! they show up automatically so I don't know what the big difference is between docking and anchoring that makes them show up slower when docked.
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LEGACYCTRLPICK
1
CTRL + left-click is used to cycle through overlapping objects. Disallows using CTRL + left-click to select subobjects on 3D solids.
If you don't do 3D in AutoCAD (we don't either), then you won't miss it. I have to learn the new way, though, 'cause my LT users can't switch it back. :|
The new and improved way is the more complicated way (IMHO): pressing SHIFT + SPACE.
Now that I've gotten used to it (which actually didn't take very long), I don't mind it. It's just as easy to hold down Shift and thumb through Spaces as to click, and the new version works with the selection preview highlight, which I like too.
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yeah I was playing around with the Rollup/out speed too. I'm trying to find the right combo. See I don't reall like my dashboard to appear the instant I hover over it as I accidently hover over it alot and it's always expanding when I don't want and the reverse applies too I don't want it collapsing as soon as I take my pointer off it. I just need to find the right setting for me i think thanks
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yeah I was playing around with the Rollup/out speed too. I'm trying to find the right combo. See I don't reall like my dashboard to appear the instant I hover over it as I accidently hover over it alot and it's always expanding when I don't want and the reverse applies too I don't want it collapsing as soon as I take my pointer off it. I just need to find the right setting for me i think thanks
No Problem.
Another possible solution to your Problem. Two Monitors. It works for me. :kewl:
Dashboard Properties & Tool Pallet stays open all the time on the second monitor.
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As a side note, LEGACYCTRLPICK must be set to 0 for Civil-3D 2008.
If you set it to 1, there is no way to select labels, thanks to Autodesk's extremely-user-unfriendly new implementation of labels.
I haven't really tried using Dashboard yet. Anyone using Dashboard with C3D? Is it useful? It didn't seem all that useful to me, so I just shut it off, but would it be worth exploring...?
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As a side note, LEGACYCTRLPICK must be set to 0 for Civil-3D 2008.
If you set it to 1, there is no way to select labels, thanks to Autodesk's extremely-user-unfriendly new implementation of labels.
I haven't really tried using Dashboard yet. Anyone using Dashboard with C3D? Is it useful? It didn't seem all that useful to me, so I just shut it off, but would it be worth exploring...?
I can't account for how it works in C3D but for me, I placed the 9 tool bars that I use onto it thus freeing up more screen real estate. Plus if you use layer states then that is on there as well. I like it.
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I suppose maybe at some point, I'll try playing with it. The default configuration wasn't useful, but it might be a different story with some customization.
That's going to be a while, though - too many other things on tap right now.
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I suppose maybe at some point, I'll try playing with it. The default configuration wasn't useful, but it might be a different story with some customization.
That's going to be a while, though - too many other things on tap right now.
The 2007 dashboard was worthless for 2007 C3D and could not really be customized. I have played with it a bit in 2008 vanilla. It is still worthless in the OOTB configuration for C3D, but you can customize the content this year and it is has much more potential. I don't know if the Civil 3D tool bars can be placed there in 2008 like the standard tool bars, but if they can it would make a very handy flyout and free up a lot of screen real estate.
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I suppose maybe at some point, I'll try playing with it. The default configuration wasn't useful, but it might be a different story with some customization.
That's going to be a while, though - too many other things on tap right now.
The 2007 dashboard was worthless for 2007 C3D and could not really be customized. I have played with it a bit in 2008 vanilla. It is still worthless in the OOTB configuration for C3D, but you can customize the content this year and it is has much more potential. I don't know if the Civil 3D tool bars can be placed there in 2008 like the standard tool bars, but if they can it would make a very handy flyout and free up a lot of screen real estate.
BTW: I did all my customization thru the CUI editor. Drag and Drop. I drop the whole Layers II tool bar right on it.
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I haven't found too much use for the dashboard, but now that I have 2008, maybe I'll look into it a little more. What I do find useful is workspaces. As for LT, I've used it a number of times and can't believe that even in 2008 they still haven't given you an align command. What's up with that?
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I thought you knew...
Autocad LT = Autocad Limited
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