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mkweaver

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how do I get help on vl* functions in Acad 2011?
« on: June 19, 2010, 04:24:02 PM »
Using Acad 2011, I seem to be unable to get any help on the vl functions.  Has anyone found a way around this?

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Lee Mac

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Re: how do I get help on vl* functions in Acad 2011?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2010, 08:50:46 PM »
Just upgraded to 2011, the Help facilities seem to be all web based...
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Re: how do I get help on vl* functions in Acad 2011?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2010, 12:02:51 AM »
The AutoLISP Language Reference should still be there, either locally, if you chose that option on install, or online at autodesk.com

If installed locally, look for AutoCAD 2011 Install\Help\acad-contents.html & browse from there

AutoCAD 2011 Install\Help\ALR  appears to contain AutoLISP Language Reference.

All seems in order on my system...

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mkweaver

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Re: how do I get help on vl* functions in Acad 2011?
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2010, 12:41:43 AM »
I have not been able to find any help for the com functions.  For example, enter "vla-insertblock" in the IDE, highlight it and pick the apropos button (or ctr-shift-a).  In 2010 this takes you to the vba help for the insertblock method.  Now, I understand that VBA is not included with Acad 2011, but they should have left us some way to get help on these functions.

Am I missing something?

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Re: how do I get help on vl* functions in Acad 2011?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2010, 12:51:49 AM »
There never was any documentation for the vla-* functions.  The only option we ever had was to refer to the VBA documentation and translate into lisp.  So, I guess Autodesk isn't providing the VBA docs any more now that VBA itself isn't included with AutoCAD?  I wonder if it comes with the downloadable VBA add-on.
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Re: how do I get help on vl* functions in Acad 2011?
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2010, 01:40:09 AM »

I've just finished doing an ACADM 2011 install on a new 64bit box.

In VLIDE I needed to run (vl-load-com) so that vla-addLine turned blue in the editor and was recognised by the help system ...

ie: seems the ActiveX COM server may need to be loaded before the help works.

note: however, I haven't prooved this to myself yet.
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Re: how do I get help on vl* functions in Acad 2011?
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2010, 01:52:04 AM »
Yes, that is indeed the case .. needs (vl-load-com)

I installed/loaded ALL help files locally.
The Help file is located here for me :

The piccy was captured with the Win 7default  Snipping Tool ... quite neat.
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Re: how do I get help on vl* functions in Acad 2011?
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2010, 11:24:40 AM »
Kerry,

How do you force ACAD to open the help files in the standard help browser, rather than using the web? I cannot seem to get the help on the VBA functions either  :|
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Re: how do I get help on vl* functions in Acad 2011?
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2010, 06:15:47 PM »
Quote from: Lee Mac on June 20, 2010, 11:24:40 AM
Kerry,

How do you force ACAD to open the help files in the standard help browser, rather than using the web? I cannot seem to get the help on the VBA functions either  :|

Just lucky I guess :-D


WBHELPONLINE

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=14964770&linkID=9240617
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Re: how do I get help on vl* functions in Acad 2011?
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2010, 08:10:39 AM »


This topic sort of died. I've still got my thread killer skills I see.  :|
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Re: how do I get help on vl* functions in Acad 2011?
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2010, 12:32:04 PM »
Sorry, I forgot to reply - I tried that change - but the help still appears in the web browser, just using files from a different location.

And I still cannot access the help for vla-* functions  :-(
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Re: how do I get help on vl* functions in Acad 2011?
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2010, 12:50:42 PM »
I can't test this because I'm on Windows7-64bit, but perhaps this helps.
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Re: how do I get help on vl* functions in Acad 2011?
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2010, 12:52:16 PM »
Ah - thanks Crank - I shall investigate  :evil:
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