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Title: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: M-dub on March 18, 2009, 10:46:32 AM
Has anyone here ever plotted with an inkjet plotter / printer onto mylar?  If so, does the ink ever REALLY dry?  I'm hoping this works...
I had to get a couple of stick files ready for some guys out in the plant and they were complaining that the drawings in the front and back of their stick files always get tattered and torn, so I decided to try printing a drawing list on mylar for the front cover and just using a blank sheet of mylar for the back.  That should help, anyway.
If the ink isn't going to dry though, I may as well just put two blank sheets of mylar in there.
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: Dinosaur on March 18, 2009, 10:55:13 AM
HP told us it took a special mylar to work with inkjet.  It was too expensive so we never tried ... all attempts on regular mylar gave poor results.
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: M-dub on March 18, 2009, 11:00:41 AM
Yeah, I'm thinking that's going to be the case.  I thought there was some sort of spray you could put on them, but I might be thinking of something else.

Since it's translucent, I'll just put the drawing list on the first paper sheet of each.
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: Dinosaur on March 18, 2009, 11:22:24 AM
I have used a solvent in the past to treat mylar before inking that would probably solve the problem but it is not available in the US now as far as I know.  If you can find carbon tetrachloride in Canada, just applying a small amount and scrubbing the mylar surface thoroughly will let mylar take ink much more readily and consistently.  You might try applying some Pounce, but you will need to take extra care wiping down the excess.
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: Bob Wahr on March 18, 2009, 11:25:30 AM
I've done it and it does require ink jet mylar.  You might try spraying it with Krylon Crystal Clear.
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: M-dub on March 18, 2009, 11:31:04 AM
Thanks guys, but I just went with my (much easier and readily available) solution to use a blank sheet.  It essentially gives me the same result I was going for, but would have been a little nicer if I had one of the solutions (no pun intended) you guys mentioned.
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: sinc on March 20, 2009, 06:01:04 PM
We do it all the time in our large format printer, but I think the matte film we use was designed for this purpose.

(Sure enough, the box says "IJ Film", which I presume means "InkJet Film".)
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: Julie@Integra on March 20, 2009, 09:47:36 PM
Last time I used mylar was through a blueline machine (I can smell the ammonia now). That brings back some memories...  :ugly:
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: Strucmad on March 21, 2009, 06:52:20 PM
You could print it on paper first , then dust off the old pens and trace it on to mylar... :-D
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: M-dub on March 22, 2009, 12:21:23 AM
No thanks!  :-D

I tried it, but it didn't work.  I didn't really expect it to, but had to try anyway.  I printed a BIG drawing list in reverse on the 'back' of the mylar and was going to use it as the cover of a stick file in an attempt to protect the (bond) drawings inside.  It would still smudge though... the ink will NOT bond to it.

I just printed the drawing list on another c-size sheet of paper and used it as the first page under the blank mylar.  It's actually a better result for a couple reasons.  Obviously, the mylar is transparent / translucent so you can see the list right through it, but the nice thing is that when the drawing list needs to be updated, I don't need to use up another one of our last few sheets of mylar.
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: mjfarrell on March 24, 2009, 11:11:03 AM
A clearly fabulous solution there Dub.
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: M-dub on June 18, 2009, 11:38:46 AM
So we decided to try a roll of inkjet mylar after we received a request for 63 laminated C-size drawings.  I would say I'm fairly pleased with the results.

Thought I'd throw this out there.  I sent this to the guy who made the request.

18”x24” (C-size) prints      $0.90 each
18”x24” (C-size) laminated      $11.88 each
$12.78 x 21 drawings         $268.38
$268.38 x 3 sets         $805.14
Taxes            $104.67
Total            $909.81

From one roll of mylar, we can expect to get about 80 C-size drawings out of it and the cost for one roll is $213.99.

On another note, how do you add more than one 'tab' in a post?
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: Bob Garner on June 18, 2009, 01:04:45 PM
We tried a spray fixative on mylar but found that if the ink won't dry, the fixative just makes it run.
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: Dinosaur on June 18, 2009, 01:18:19 PM
We tried a spray fixative on mylar but found that if the ink won't dry, the fixative just makes it run.
you need to make a few very light applications before leaning into the button ...
hope that expensive roll works well for you Mike - just don't make too many test plots ...

"On another note, how do you add more than one 'tab' in a post?"
I would say just let Maverick pick up the tab.
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: mjfarrell on June 18, 2009, 01:57:08 PM
From where I'm sitting, one would want to format ones post prior to inserting into a reply window.
 

Oh, and the proper media for ones plotter always yields superior results.
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: M-dub on June 19, 2009, 08:45:24 AM
From where I'm sitting, one would want to format ones post prior to inserting into a reply window.

I did that, but as with multiple spaces, smf seems to remove multiple tabs as well.
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: James Cannon on June 19, 2009, 08:51:01 AM
From where I'm sitting, one would want to format ones post prior to inserting into a reply window.

I did that, but as with multiple spaces, smf seems to remove multiple tabs as well.

A)   .   .   .   .   .   .   How about this?
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: M-dub on June 19, 2009, 08:53:30 AM
Ok, well I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about.  (I know I've experienced that... maybe it was a long time ago)

So tell me, how do you add multiple tabs?
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: James Cannon on June 19, 2009, 09:03:57 AM
I just put a . between each tab :\
Title: Re: InkJet on Mylar / Matte Film
Post by: M-dub on June 19, 2009, 09:11:23 AM
Touché... kinda.  :)